Remember how Trump talked about the 14th Amendment during the 2016 election, and how the deep state howled at him? What most people don't realize is that the 14th Amendment is a complex amendment with several provisions. Citizenship is only one of those provisions. It is possible that Trump was also talking about Section 3:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Trump does not need the Insurrection Act. That is an Article I power by Congress to put down insurrections. Trump is the head of the Executive Branch, which is a separate power under Article II.
Q asked us under what article does the President have power? Article II is completely independent of Congress' authority.
Article II, Section 2:
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States
The President does not need Congress' approval if in time of war. Foreign countries attempting to infiltrate the US election for the purpose of overthrowing a duly-elected President is an act of war. Any US person who aided in any way is an accomplice. Any such person who also took an oath of office, as did all members of Congress, are no longer lawful members of Congress, per the 14th Amendment.
Don't lose track of what just happened. They attempted a coup, and foreign countries helped, which is an act of war. Anything Congress does now is unlawful because only a handful of senators are not traitors, and only about 1/3 of House members are not traitors. Congress no longer has a quorum to do business of any kind.
Serious business. Not since 1861 has anything like this happened.
Excellent explanation, very well written. The Insurrection Act is a red herring.
The 2018 EO designated US election systems as critical infrastructure. Any attack on that is an act of war, and we have already been in a state of war ever since 9-11 (and that state of war was recently renewed until mid-2021).
Election fraud is normally a felony, but in time of war it becomes treason. You are correct. Under the 14th amendment, we basically don't have a congress anymore. They are all traitors and enemy combatants.
But I thought only Congress can declare war?
Bush found a way around that.
Insurrection isnt war in the classic sense. It's a collapse of authority.
but didn't Q say the Military is the only way?
It is the only way. Since we have no congress, we will default to martial law.
Yup, they forfeited their positions through treason. Stupid fux
He has 110 million loyal pedes. This is over, has been in the sense tney can't maneuver any longer. They truly are put of ammo.
We've been in a state of war since GWB. No need to declare anything.
That line of questioning between Lindsey Graham and Kav comes to mind.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4747307/user-clip-sen-graham-asks-military-tribunals
Talk about a boomerang, huh?
That, and the War Powers Act "limits" the President's ability to deploy US forces at will in response to a military threat to the US (a product of the Cold War). Trump would have 48 hours to notify Congress after doing it and can use them for 60 days without a declaration of war.... if there is a Congress at that point. Oops, seems like giving all your powers to the President out of laziness and escaping responsibility was a bad move in the long run, Congress.
What about when Congress is out of session?
Good Point!
Didn't trump declare that war over???
And there is that
Nice...the oath they take is for foreign AND domestic.
Me likey!
Frankly, I'd rather see a Military Tribunal sort this out. It would be easier to swallow for libtards than if Trump was in charge of the cleansing.
Yes, also there are still too many Obama-appointed activist judges. And trials can and do become circuses (OJ).
I am reminded of a slew of recent cases dismissed on procedural grounds.
I believe your are right here awesome news thanks
Election fraud = civil war. Thanks.
But isn’t the different 14th is used in war against outside. Where as the act is the ability to use on own country?
We are at war with China. They’ve made that pretty clear.
OK, so what is the next step?
Military takes over.
If it's war, they fight and secure.
If you want to gamble, bet against Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc. If/when Trump wins he should break them up which should devalue their stocks.
But really, right now and for your future aspirations, save your money in a high yield savings account like Ally or an index fund from Vanguard.
But isn’t the different 14th is used in war against outside. Where as the act is the ability to use on own country?
The oath they take it for foreign AND domestic
We've been in a state of war since GWB. No need to declare anything.
He can declare both. Whichever he chooses, he's got [them] right where he wants [them], at [their] angriest and most brazen.
This is a stellar post but misses a critical prerequisite. Enforcement. If they will steal an election they will completely ignore the rule of law and legal recourse. DC IS CORRUPT TO THE BONE.
Dude, just had that conversation last night with my son. Only further north to centralize it so next time showing up T the capital is as easy as driving. Nevada is a long ways
I love where you are with that idea, however I would prefer a place much more non-descript. Tulsa OK for example.
Where ever we relocate it to, we desperately need the rule, ZERO special interest offices, government contracting HQs, or PARTY offices within a 60 miles radius of the new capitol. we can move all the monuments, memorials, museums, HELL ... the buildings themselves (piece by piece). Leave that shithole DC to rot in its own stench.
All the commies should be buried in the swamp. Make it a wasteland that you enter at your own risk...wait...it already is that.
Enforcement is the easy part. Buy in and staying legal was te tricky stuff.
If Biden, and let’s say also Kamala, are legally proven guilty of insurrection before Jan. 20, what happens? The 20th Amendment, Section 3, gives succession order, but it does not specify what happens in this scenario and specifies that Congress can decide by a future law. I’m not sure that such a law exists.
This is what I've been trying to find and understand. Like, there's no way we wouldn't have provisions for events like this. Great post!
You are exactly right.And if I understand this show and if Q isnt bullshit they will use 14th against him to "impeach" him without 2/3. You will see it. Mousetrap. Stopping Trump = bait for mouse. Mouse = donkey here, you got it ?
Can this be stickied?
Awesome. Thank you for taking the time to explain this to us.
We all heard multiple politicians call it an "insurrection" on Wed., so they all agree it was. Now when Trump told everyone to go home in peace and in love, was he talking to supporters or was he talking to Antifa, Pelosi, McConnell, and Pence--the real instigators and participants of the "insurrection"? As MAG768720 said above, nothing they try to do at this point is valid or lawful. I'd call that checkmate.
Doesn't that take a 2/3rds majority vote in the House? By itself i don't think the President has any power or authority, except a signature or VETO. Am I wrong. Its one of the wonderful checks and balances in case of rogue, despotic Presidents. There are built-in proverbial mountains to scale, making many actions very difficult to enact. I always picture someone like Obama as President, and realize the great wisdom of our forefathers.
Yeah, insurrection is handled nicely in the 14th. And we don't need permission to deal with it. The insurrecrion act seemed more limiting g than helpfull
https://greatawakening.win/p/11Rh1RiPDt/president-trump-will-lead-americ/c/
Section 3 + 14th Amendment = 17
Dear Low Effort Concernfag,
Either state an opinion backed up by logic or evidence, or GTFO.
Oh yeah! I went to look at the user and the are gone! This post has lots of justice!