The United States of America government by 1860 had become the equivalent of twitter, face book, google and all the other big tech companies. They favored the North exclusively and they attacked the South exclusively.
Lincoln did the equivalent of jailing the South for the audacity of wanting to be free citizens fairly treated by those they put into power.
On this page and other conservative pages we discuss Texas seceding. Or better yet, Texas and many other red states seceding because our government does not represent us. But we are going to bitch and moan that the south should have been forced to remain part of a government that did not and would not represent them?
I am sorry, but if we believe in our founding fathers wisdom, what Lincoln did was a travesty to their views of the world. Washington would have been first in line if he were alive and living in the south to lead the creation of a Declaration of Independence from the United States of America which he significantly contributed towards creating. The secession might have actually happened far sooner if our founding fathers were alive at that time.
He set the stage for it. He broke the constitution. We used to be a nation made of sovereign states. Now we are a nation of forced association of slave states. That is his legacy.
Yes, the constitutional amendments that destroyed the republic did come after Lincoln, but they only became possible because of the way in which he re-assembled the nation. Once the states were no longer considered sovereigns the theft of the power was absolutely certain.
The reason the south seceded, and I am a northerner, so I have no built in bias favorable towards the south, is because the north was abusing them. They unfairly taxed them by population and followed that up with unequal, unconstitutional spending projects heavily favoring the north.
Slavery would have ended without the war, it was never the cause of the south seceding from the nation. The south seceded because they were not treated as equals.
Technology would have eventually made slavery uneconomical. But the north forced tariffs that made it too expensive for the south import the machines required to accomplish that mission of making slaves uneconomical and thus freely done away with. The tariffs were designed specifically to force the south into supporting the northern states economies at the expense of the southern states economies.
If the northern states really wanted to get rid of slavery, they could have made slavery uneconomical by allowing the south to industrialize. So, who really started the war that cost so many American lives? Should citizens of a nation be forced to live under two sets of rules? The foundation of this nation starts with "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." and then told this "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." EQUAL. "SECTION 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." But the uniformity of that was no longer happening. Heavy taxes on exports, forced participation in commerce through usury tariffs caused the south to be far more heavily taxed and burdened than the north.
Instead of fixing those problems, Lincoln came into power with a desire to further abuse the south. They had reached that point where the association with the other states had to be dissolved. As is the right of all peoples. The north are the ones that decided that they would rather be conquerors.
How do you figure that? It wasn't his policies that created "American Democracy." All that shit came after [they] killed him
Let me put it this way, the other post is long.
The United States of America government by 1860 had become the equivalent of twitter, face book, google and all the other big tech companies. They favored the North exclusively and they attacked the South exclusively.
Lincoln did the equivalent of jailing the South for the audacity of wanting to be free citizens fairly treated by those they put into power.
On this page and other conservative pages we discuss Texas seceding. Or better yet, Texas and many other red states seceding because our government does not represent us. But we are going to bitch and moan that the south should have been forced to remain part of a government that did not and would not represent them?
I am sorry, but if we believe in our founding fathers wisdom, what Lincoln did was a travesty to their views of the world. Washington would have been first in line if he were alive and living in the south to lead the creation of a Declaration of Independence from the United States of America which he significantly contributed towards creating. The secession might have actually happened far sooner if our founding fathers were alive at that time.
He set the stage for it. He broke the constitution. We used to be a nation made of sovereign states. Now we are a nation of forced association of slave states. That is his legacy.
Yes, the constitutional amendments that destroyed the republic did come after Lincoln, but they only became possible because of the way in which he re-assembled the nation. Once the states were no longer considered sovereigns the theft of the power was absolutely certain.
The reason the south seceded, and I am a northerner, so I have no built in bias favorable towards the south, is because the north was abusing them. They unfairly taxed them by population and followed that up with unequal, unconstitutional spending projects heavily favoring the north.
Slavery would have ended without the war, it was never the cause of the south seceding from the nation. The south seceded because they were not treated as equals.
Technology would have eventually made slavery uneconomical. But the north forced tariffs that made it too expensive for the south import the machines required to accomplish that mission of making slaves uneconomical and thus freely done away with. The tariffs were designed specifically to force the south into supporting the northern states economies at the expense of the southern states economies.
If the northern states really wanted to get rid of slavery, they could have made slavery uneconomical by allowing the south to industrialize. So, who really started the war that cost so many American lives? Should citizens of a nation be forced to live under two sets of rules? The foundation of this nation starts with "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." and then told this "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." EQUAL. "SECTION 8. Clause 1. The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States." But the uniformity of that was no longer happening. Heavy taxes on exports, forced participation in commerce through usury tariffs caused the south to be far more heavily taxed and burdened than the north.
Instead of fixing those problems, Lincoln came into power with a desire to further abuse the south. They had reached that point where the association with the other states had to be dissolved. As is the right of all peoples. The north are the ones that decided that they would rather be conquerors.
^YEP