I've always followed Icke and felt he was on to something pretty serious and the way the MSM worked overtime to ridicule him was very telling (as per Q).
It seems he hasn't done much research into the actual group. He seems to have just seen the "tRUst tHe pLAn" talking points and jumped to conclusions. Just because we follow Q and trust the plan doesnt mean we also sit idly by and do nothing at the same time. We call our representatives and make our voices heard etc.
The difference as far as I can tell in terms of the other examples he cites is that Q has provided tons of proof, beyond statistical possibilities. Also David's main contention is that this "Drake" guy (a Q-type whistleblower back in 2011) used to give dates as to when the bad guys would get arrested and of course it never happened - well Q never does that. Q never gives specific dates as to when things happen.
Q also encourages free thinking, not what to think.
What I cant work out is if Icke is now a disinformation agent; if so has he always been or is he now compromised, or is he just being ignorant on this and annoyed Q is taking away his schtick?
As I keep telling myself, if Q is fake and a psyop why nuke it from the internet? Why not allow it to fester and draw in the mainstream to lull EVERYONE into complacency, as he suggests? Why wouldnt Trump just distance himself form it from the beginning? Youtube allows moon landing conspiracies and aliens etc but not Q?
I feel like now either Q is fake or Icke is and I'm genuinely upset now either way.
Indeed, he knowingly raises or lowers the level of crazy depending on what sells the book$
Icke is himself a psyop at this point. He confabulates to confuse people. Trump is the real deal.
I dont know whats real anymore. I just dont know who to trust.
I agree. If Q was a psyop it was a total failure.
You’ll find very very few people in the ‘truth’ community actually ‘get’ the big picture. Lol
I'm getting that impression lol
agreed. i tried to like him but to me he seems like a disinfo agent like AJ - or maybe he has some accurate truth but he dispenses it in a way that is designed to turn off normies and damage the message intentionally. i avoid icke.
That's what he said Q is doing lol
I dont know. I really liked Alex and David through the years. The MSM came after them hard. Now they are controlled ops? Really?
Man, I just feel betrayed by everyone. I dont know who to look to anymore.
Icke talks about reptile people and serpent seed which is completely contrary to the Bible. I’ve never listened to him.
You dont believe the Reptilians are ruling us? You think Zuckerberg is remotely human? lol
Lol it right!???
Cuckerberg is a android made by Disney.
I wouldn't say completely contrary, there is a serpent in the Garden of Eden.
True, but to suggest that the serpent had sex with Eve which gave rise to a race of “reptilians” is absurd.
A talking snake is ligit., but you draw the line at having sex with a talking snake?
I was thinking the race of lizards were here before A&E.
Satan is described “as a serpent”, not “a physical serpent”. Angels don’t have sex (Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25). And if you believe that there was a race of anything before A&E then I can’t help you. The Bible clearly states the heavens, earth and everything in our universe was created in 7 literal days. (Yowm: Hebrew meaning one day; from sun up to sun down)
Gen. 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
The Serpent and Satan are two different beings.
You should be more accepting of different views and different religions if you are a follower of Q, there is no reason for you to "help me" with my beliefs. The DS uses religion as a way of division and conflict. The Catholic Church assembled the Bible to control us, in my opinion it needs to be questioned, that is why God gave us free will.
I am not trying to “help you” and I wasn’t meaning any disrespect. I do agree that religion is used to divide people. I’m not religious, I’m Christian. As long as there aren’t disagreements on the nature and work of Christ and salvation, it’s healthy to hear differing points of view. Point taken.
Sorry I took offense.
What do you mean by, "I’m not religious, I’m Christian." Do you mean you don't worship / go to church?
Do you study the Bible?
I search religions and myths for wisdom and knowledge, but Im not Christian.
If you think it is healthy to hear differing points of view, why not if they don't accept Jesus as God.
Angels don't have sex, huh?
Genesis 6:1-4
1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Who are the sons of God referenced in Genesis 6? Before you answer, read this passage-
Job 1:6-7
6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.
So the sons of God were with Satan and presented themselves before God.
The sons of God can't be humans. After all, no man has seen God at any time.
John 1:18
No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
From my studies, the sons of God is referring to the genealogical line of Seth and the daughters of men is referring to the genealogical line of Cain. With regard to the John reference and Christ, that refers to the immaculate conception of Mary. It’s my understanding that God didn’t physically have sex with Mary.
So if no man has seen God at any time, how are the sons of God presenting themselves before the Lord?
Pick up a Strong's Concordance and you'll see there are 2 Hebrew words that translate into Sons of God.
Bene Elohim was understood to mean fallen angels before St. Augustine of Hippo proposed the line of Seth theory. It doesn't make any sense why having sex with the daughters of Cain would result in giants and the mighty men of old.
The earliest Christians believed the Sons of God in Genesis 6:2 were fallen angels, and Job 1:6 confirms that interpretation as it directly mentions they were with Satan.
http://creationwiki.org/Bene_Elohim
If we are made in the image of God, and Satan knew of the promise of a Redeemer born from mankind, a Redeemer who would DESTROY HIM, wouldn't a scheme to prevent God from keeping his promise be to pollute the DNA of mankind? After all, if Satan could destroy the prophecy through genetic modification, what did he have to lose?
What if he was able to convince 1/3 of the angels that not being allowed to have children was unfair, especially in a world that is eternal? Why were they cast down from heaven?
What happens after Genesis 6:1-4?
Genesis 6:5-13
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.
What is the significance of Noah being perfect in his generations when it comes to the Biblical promise of the Messiah descending from Adam, with perfect DNA?
Why is lineage important?
Do the names of the descendants of Adam have any significance if translated?
What does Methusaleh mean if translated?
WHEN HE IS DEAD IT SHALL BE SENT
When did the Great Flood come?
Methuselah is the son of Enoch, who famously walked with God, and the father of Lamech the Second and the grandfather of Noah (Genesis 5:25). He is also the man with the longest life-span in the Bible (969 years). The Bible doesn't actually mention it but a little arithmetic reveals that Methuselah died in the year of the great flood.
https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Methuselah.html
Genesis 7:1-2
1 And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
Why did God require 7 sets of clean animals and 2 sets of unclean animals?
How long did God wait that all the righteous might be saved from the Great Flood?
Did the people reject Noah's message to turn away from their sins and towards righteousness?
1 Peter 3:19-20
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
So Jesus visited the spirits in prison who were disobedient and rejected Noah's message?
What is the significance of 2 Peter 2:4-5?
2 Peter 2:4-5
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
Future proves past.
Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Genetic modification (destruction of God's Creation by Satan and his minions) was the reason for the Great Flood.
Look at what's going on right in front of you with mRNA vaccines and genetically modified foods, rumors of designer babies, chimeras, vaccines made from aborted babies.
Do you think God likes what's happening to His Creation again?
Do you think God will wait until no more people can be saved before destroying the world with fire?
For the ultimate rabbit hole, find the verse in the Bible that is a direct quote from the Book of Enoch.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=enoch&resultspp=250&version=KJV
Or, enjoy your cheat sheet-
https://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/BookofEnoch.html
One thing that the "Q is a psyop" people fail to realize, is that through mathematical impossibilities, there is a zero% chance that Trump is NOT associated with the Q-team.
In that case, Trump would have to have been in on the "psy-op". So, how can one believe Q is a psyop AND still support POTUS Trump?
It's disconnected wiring and logical fallacy.
Been screaming this from the rooftops
Q is Q, Qanon is anon's and the two were combined. Many get upset by saying Qanon vs just Q.... Just Saying.
Just because it proves their ignorance. If you keep insisting on using a word that has no has no meaning to the group your criticizing, you have no real understanding of the group.
Exactly. That's why I feel he was talking from a place of ignorance in the video. But now I dont know if he is insidiously controlled ops or just trying to draw some commercial conspiracy-crowd attention away from Q.
considerthe source .... assclown he is
You say that, but I have read his books and followed him for years, so I dont know what's real anymore anymore
Another one jealous of Q's thunder?
Yes its seeming that way to me. Which makes me feel Q is a legit threat to these people
He should have a sit down with fellow Brit Martin Geddes
Sounds like projection to me
possibly yes
David Icke is a lizard that used to play as a professional goalkeeper....
????
WWG1WGA
Remember a little flurry about "Bohemian Grove Sold" published by a blog called Glamis Calling? It was hot for a couple of days. Glamis Calling had many pages that looked like a secret societies notes and cryptic messages. It was soon joined by another website which purported to expose the illuminati connections of the person purportedly writing Glamis Calling. Suddenly both David Icke and Michael Rothschild (really) in their separate professional deboonking blogs have discovered this "cruel hoax" and have refutations all researched and written up. Much too convenient. I think they made this hoax themselves.
Yeah, I was interested in Icke but some of his theories seem to contradict each other. He's also been allowed to get VERY big. I wouldn't be surprised if he was disinformation. I do think he includes a lot of true stuff but I also think he might be spiking the true stuff with falsehoods.
Thats exactly what he said Q is doing in his vid. Who knows.
Try David Wilcock and Dr. Steven Greer. Icke is the Alex Jones of the aliens fear cult. He is very ambitious. Rubs me the wrong way. There is center ground. Anyone fanning alarm and paranoia is self-serving.
Yes he is always talking from a place of fear and despair. Q provides the real picture and is honest about the darkness we're up against but also provides hope. Icke is always "we're run by parasitical reptilian overlords who feed off our misery and there's NOTHING you can do about it, even after you die you will be reincarnated onto the earth to be drained some more" etc.
HOW CAN I TELL WHAT IS WHAT THESE DAYS????? Is Q real? Is Icke fake? Is Alex Jones controlled ops? Is JFK Jr alive? WTF is even going on anymorrrrre