Ah, my mistake I just read into that wrong I guess. I took it as you discouraging the practice... after going back and reading from a different perspective I understand what you were getting at... and sort of feel like an ass.

So far nothing that I know of has been proven, however I'm not the biggest follower of the plane fags...

In all honesty though nothing is really proven... alot of what we have is speculation... which is ok... because the hard facts we do have still give hope, not just for this movement, but god willing for this county!