Any proof? From what i saw online onlt 100 billion ounces are mined a year and that mich is traded daily in paper... Every site is already out of physical, or are taking weeks to ship, and a lot of coin stores aren't selling.... sounds like a supply issue to me..
Don't start saying stupid unfounded crap because you're late to stacking.
Theres apparently so much sitting around in the form of jewelry and SILVERWARE that they can buy back and melt down if the price were at risk of spiking. It isnt, at least not anywhere near on par with the 10x, 100x, 1000x. Even seeing a 4x increase would be a near miracle.
Dont get me wrong... Stack physical gold and silver and platinum as you can. Its all gonna go up. Its just not a short squeeze.
I was under the impression that WSB was not advising people to buy GME at 200, but were saying not to sell until the squeeze is squoze. I think GME at 200 is unreasonable and the shorts are correct. I also think the shorts are breaking laws and GME highlights this very visibly. Silver short squeeze is orthogonal to the GME squeeze.
I'm not partaking in the short squeeze, so I don't know the exact battleplan. My point was that yesterday the top posts on r/all were to keep focusing on GME and leave the silver be, since that was a trap to save the hedgefonds, many of which own silver.
I see. I am certainly not saying drop GME and buy silver right now, I am saying silver is shiny and people love it, plus it has industrial uses and actually vanishes unlike gold. Plus there is zero liquidity on the London silver bullion markets, and they are short 100 million ounces. It is basically the same as GME but on a global scale.
This has been an ongoing project. Some have a few ounces, some like me hundreds of ounces, some have thousands which is considered a historically significant hoard, and the big boys have literally tons. Physical delivered silver. I think I'll buy more tomorrow.
When it comes to buying silver bullions, what's the intended goal? Investing in a currency that is worth something instead of just paper?
If the dollar crashes, then I could trade that for the current currency? I'm new to investing in precious metals, so I'd like to hear different perspectives. And how are people usually storing this? And what expected time frame for such an investment. Thank you for the replies in advance.
Silver and gold will always be in demand. In the off chance that the dollar, or even the world was to crash, rogue traders in the radiated deserts of New Texas will always accept your silver coins in barter. So not a bad thing to have as a backup for the worst scenarios possible. Generally though silver is a lifetime investment, unless you agree with the hype that it will boom up shortly.
Sorry in advance for the wall of text, I'm kinda bored and got carried away.
Silver and Gold are typically used to protect your current purchasing power as the fiat currency that you use loses value. That is the basic starting point for most people interested in the precious metals. Beyond being an innocent 'inflation hedge' many people are of the view that silver and gold are manipulated to service some agenda by the elites. Some say to hide the true levels of inflation, some think that they are manipulating metals to make profit and siphon wealth from the masses, another theory is they want to distance society from assets that inherently keep the system accountable. It could be all of these and more.
Beyond protecting your purchasing power against inflation, many precious metals enthusiasts also expect the current manipulation to come to an end at some point based on the tendency for civilisations to either collapse or reinvent themselves. If people start losing faith in the system they start looking for other assets to protect themselves like precious metals, crypto etc--more people getting interested in silver means less to go around and pushes the price up.
When it comes to the value of a given thing, as far as I can tell it's not something we can absolutely know, it's something we deduce based on certain factors over time and everyone comes to a level of consensus like how much effort it takes to produce, how much is available, historical data etc. So yes, your metals will always have value and assuming society doesn't completely collapse into a SHTF situation you'll be able to trade them based on the cost to produce them (+/- people's current sentiment surrounding them). For something to be able to be considered money it needs to meet these criteria (silver and gold do which is a substantial bonus when you consider our current institutions potentially failing):
Divisible: Can be divided into smaller units of value.
Fungible: One unit is viewed as interchangeable with another.
Portable: Individuals can carry money with them and transfer it to others.
Durable: An item must be able to withstand being used repeatedly.
Acceptable: Everyone must be able to use the money for transactions.
Uniform: All versions of the same denomination must have the same purchasing power.
Limited in Supply: The supply of money in circulation ensures values remain relatively constant.
Most people either put it in a safe at home, bury it somewhere they have reliable access to or store in some kind of facility (bank, vault etc.). Each have their own potential risks whether that be theft, fire, if buried you could forget where it was or lose access, if stored at a bank or vault you're relying on someone else and could also lose access in that scenario.
As far as time frame for investment goes, many people have been suckered into buying due to some short lived hype and price movement and unfortunately buying at a higher price only to see the price succumb to manipulation or selling pressure again (think global financial crisis--price rose and some who bought then are still holding silver at prices above today's value). I think I can safely assume that if you're on this website you have a fairly large amount of confidence that the system we currently have will be dismantled or restored which I think will lead to people's attitude to silver/gold dramatically shifting (purchasing power goes up relative to other things) and in that case you may not even want to get rid of all your precious metals.
You might want to look at shadow stats to get a bit of an alternative perspective on inflation numbers.
I would also suggest not forgetting about gold, personally I think silver is the more undervalued and better buy but I am wary of the fact that gold is better suited to fill the role of money (and possibly a gold standard) as it doesn't have as much of an industrial use case. My personal preference is to focus on silver but not neglect gold altogether.
Well pretty much yeah, if the dollar crashes your money may not be worth as much in the new currency and it would have if you put it in silver. If the currency is precious metal backed then I think every stacker is gonna be rich. Its also fun.
I have heard that in the time of Ancient Rome a skilled person was paid a tenth of an ounce of silver per day for a wage, and that was a stable price of silver all the way until the 1920s. If that is true it puts into perspective how devalued it is.
Silver is NOT in short supply. Anyone saying this is fucking lying.
Any proof? From what i saw online onlt 100 billion ounces are mined a year and that mich is traded daily in paper... Every site is already out of physical, or are taking weeks to ship, and a lot of coin stores aren't selling.... sounds like a supply issue to me..
Don't start saying stupid unfounded crap because you're late to stacking.
Fuck off you fake fuck
Theres apparently so much sitting around in the form of jewelry and SILVERWARE that they can buy back and melt down if the price were at risk of spiking. It isnt, at least not anywhere near on par with the 10x, 100x, 1000x. Even seeing a 4x increase would be a near miracle.
Dont get me wrong... Stack physical gold and silver and platinum as you can. Its all gonna go up. Its just not a short squeeze.
Go to Reddit and see for yourself, they say keep at GameStop etc. and don't go for the silver, since that is doing what Wall Street wants you to do.
I was under the impression that WSB was not advising people to buy GME at 200, but were saying not to sell until the squeeze is squoze. I think GME at 200 is unreasonable and the shorts are correct. I also think the shorts are breaking laws and GME highlights this very visibly. Silver short squeeze is orthogonal to the GME squeeze.
I'm not partaking in the short squeeze, so I don't know the exact battleplan. My point was that yesterday the top posts on r/all were to keep focusing on GME and leave the silver be, since that was a trap to save the hedgefonds, many of which own silver.
I see. I am certainly not saying drop GME and buy silver right now, I am saying silver is shiny and people love it, plus it has industrial uses and actually vanishes unlike gold. Plus there is zero liquidity on the London silver bullion markets, and they are short 100 million ounces. It is basically the same as GME but on a global scale.
This has been an ongoing project. Some have a few ounces, some like me hundreds of ounces, some have thousands which is considered a historically significant hoard, and the big boys have literally tons. Physical delivered silver. I think I'll buy more tomorrow.
I have 67 ounces, feeling pretty good :D
You need two more.
Yeah aha, if i had known I woulda bought two more last time but I wasn't keeping track.
When it comes to buying silver bullions, what's the intended goal? Investing in a currency that is worth something instead of just paper?
If the dollar crashes, then I could trade that for the current currency? I'm new to investing in precious metals, so I'd like to hear different perspectives. And how are people usually storing this? And what expected time frame for such an investment. Thank you for the replies in advance.
Silver and gold will always be in demand. In the off chance that the dollar, or even the world was to crash, rogue traders in the radiated deserts of New Texas will always accept your silver coins in barter. So not a bad thing to have as a backup for the worst scenarios possible. Generally though silver is a lifetime investment, unless you agree with the hype that it will boom up shortly.
Sorry in advance for the wall of text, I'm kinda bored and got carried away.
Silver and Gold are typically used to protect your current purchasing power as the fiat currency that you use loses value. That is the basic starting point for most people interested in the precious metals. Beyond being an innocent 'inflation hedge' many people are of the view that silver and gold are manipulated to service some agenda by the elites. Some say to hide the true levels of inflation, some think that they are manipulating metals to make profit and siphon wealth from the masses, another theory is they want to distance society from assets that inherently keep the system accountable. It could be all of these and more.
Beyond protecting your purchasing power against inflation, many precious metals enthusiasts also expect the current manipulation to come to an end at some point based on the tendency for civilisations to either collapse or reinvent themselves. If people start losing faith in the system they start looking for other assets to protect themselves like precious metals, crypto etc--more people getting interested in silver means less to go around and pushes the price up.
When it comes to the value of a given thing, as far as I can tell it's not something we can absolutely know, it's something we deduce based on certain factors over time and everyone comes to a level of consensus like how much effort it takes to produce, how much is available, historical data etc. So yes, your metals will always have value and assuming society doesn't completely collapse into a SHTF situation you'll be able to trade them based on the cost to produce them (+/- people's current sentiment surrounding them). For something to be able to be considered money it needs to meet these criteria (silver and gold do which is a substantial bonus when you consider our current institutions potentially failing):
Divisible: Can be divided into smaller units of value. Fungible: One unit is viewed as interchangeable with another. Portable: Individuals can carry money with them and transfer it to others. Durable: An item must be able to withstand being used repeatedly. Acceptable: Everyone must be able to use the money for transactions. Uniform: All versions of the same denomination must have the same purchasing power. Limited in Supply: The supply of money in circulation ensures values remain relatively constant.
Properties of Money
Most people either put it in a safe at home, bury it somewhere they have reliable access to or store in some kind of facility (bank, vault etc.). Each have their own potential risks whether that be theft, fire, if buried you could forget where it was or lose access, if stored at a bank or vault you're relying on someone else and could also lose access in that scenario.
As far as time frame for investment goes, many people have been suckered into buying due to some short lived hype and price movement and unfortunately buying at a higher price only to see the price succumb to manipulation or selling pressure again (think global financial crisis--price rose and some who bought then are still holding silver at prices above today's value). I think I can safely assume that if you're on this website you have a fairly large amount of confidence that the system we currently have will be dismantled or restored which I think will lead to people's attitude to silver/gold dramatically shifting (purchasing power goes up relative to other things) and in that case you may not even want to get rid of all your precious metals.
You might want to look at shadow stats to get a bit of an alternative perspective on inflation numbers.
I would also suggest not forgetting about gold, personally I think silver is the more undervalued and better buy but I am wary of the fact that gold is better suited to fill the role of money (and possibly a gold standard) as it doesn't have as much of an industrial use case. My personal preference is to focus on silver but not neglect gold altogether.
Well pretty much yeah, if the dollar crashes your money may not be worth as much in the new currency and it would have if you put it in silver. If the currency is precious metal backed then I think every stacker is gonna be rich. Its also fun.
I have heard that in the time of Ancient Rome a skilled person was paid a tenth of an ounce of silver per day for a wage, and that was a stable price of silver all the way until the 1920s. If that is true it puts into perspective how devalued it is.
It's just fun to have... Hedge it with bullets.