Honestly, the way shiva spoke to Dave made me lose a lot of respect for him. He sounded to me like a spoiled brat, he said Dave like 400 times and spoke to him like he was retarded. I hate when people speak down to others, because they think they are smarter. Then to say only someone in kindergarten would trust there is a plan. There are so many two face assholes now days I don't trust people who speak like this. He sounds way more like a liberal to me than anything else.