Had a look through the state government health websites for each of the other 49 states, the CDC, and a few other sources (to look for PCR testing thresholds).
Learned something, either: I'm very bad at looking this up, I don't know where to look, and/or most states aren't very transparent at all.
Also learned that while they are all happy to make it easy for you to find information for testing and vaccines on their government websites, they seem less interested in sharing PCR data (shocking right?). Some of the state government websites barely talked about PCR's, some described them quite well without giving their thresholds.
Only have PCR thresholds for 5 out of 50 states, namely: Alaska, Kansas, Minnesota, Oregon, and, Tennessee. Four of these have 35-40 (at times of latest PCR threshold release), and one has < 33.
I suspect either Rocco has access to information not shown below, or, he's referring to a previous month early on in the pandemic when PCR's were higher (there's one case below where it dropped after 4-5 months).
Thanks! Rocco might have had a particular state in mind when he made that claim. 35-40 is bad enough, though, and does give the contrast to 28.
Edit:
The Tweet has a reply saying that Rocco misrepresented the CDC page linked above for PCR tests of vaccinated people.
"That's not what the document states. Wonder if you even read it. I'm a fan of yours but the 28 cycles is for sequencing of the genome this is not to determine positivity.
Sequencing is a different process unrelated to positive testing. Be better than this Rocco."
Comparing the CDC page and the Tennessee page that you provided, this Twitter commentator seems to be wrong (i.e., Rocco had it right).
CDC document:
Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28
Tennessee document:
Most RT-PCR tests use Ct cutoffs of 35-40 cycles, so any sample with a Ct value below the cutoff, would be considered a true positive
Ct values and cutoffs differ by test and thus cannot be compared from one test to another. A specimen with a Ct=36 may be considered positive by one test but produce a different Ct value and be considered negative or indeterminate on another.
That's part of his point--they are vague and evasive about the cycle threshold for unvaccinated people but clearly state that those vaccinated need a lower threshold.
I remember early on watching the guy who invented the PCR test say anything over 35x is a false positive... absolutely worthless. He said it absolutely wasn't designed to be used as a pos/neg test.
i live in London and I havent got this deadly virus and I dont wear my mask anywhere. AND I STILL DONT KNOW 1 PEROSN WHO'S EVEN HAD IT LET ALONE DIED AFTER 13 MONTHS
Need to have those vaccinated case numbers down, while inflating the unvacciated cases, to make the vaccine look like it's doing wonders for curbing cases.
Couldn't verify the claim myself that Rocco made about unvaccinated people getting tested with PCR Thresholds at 43-45. If true, then this is hugely corrupt.
He gives a source for the second claim (CDC document), about vaccinated people being tested with PCR thresholds of 28:
‘"Most samples that test positive at PHO are found after a low number of cycles are run. However, any indication of the virus in a sample is important, regardless of how many cycles it took to find."
— Samir Patel, Clinical Microbiologist and Deputy Chief Microbiology, Public Health Ontario‘
Here’s more: ‘ Why aren’t cycle threshold reported on test results?
‘Like with other PCR tests (including non-COVID-19 tests), it is not recommended to provide Ct values on test results in Ontario (and Canada). PCR tests tell us if the virus is present or not in the sample provided to the lab; however, there are other factors to consider in interpreting lab results. Ct values are not directly comparable from one PCR test kit to the next, and can change with increased transportation times, sample storage conditions, and sample collection method.
‘Because of this, Ct values can help support lab specialists in validating results as well as reviewing complex cases. However, they need to be considered alongside the other important factors we discussed earlier – like exposure history and individual characteristics. At PHO, Ct values are available to health care professionals upon request, and low level detected results (Ct value 35 to 38) are indicated on the laboratory report (since November 2020). We also have specialists who are available to health care professionals who have any questions on interpreting lab results or want to discuss complex cases. There is still a lot to learn about Ct values and more research is required to fully understand Ct values and their link to disease onset, severity and infectiousness.’
Rocco Galati is the Executive Director and founder of CRC (Constitutiona Rights Center) in Canada and he is taking court actions along with some police officers against the police enforcements and covid BS in Ontario. I believe it would have a domino effect across all of Canada. There is a pdf available for download of the court filing at the website. It's 25 pages but not necessary to read all but well worth it. Here's a link https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/
but it was also how they were dying. Struck with blistering fevers, nasal hemorrhaging and pneumonia, the patients would drown in their own fluid-filled lungs.
Only decades later were scientists able to explain the phenomenon now known as “cytokine explosion.” When the human body is being attacked by a virus, the immune system sends messenger proteins called cytokines to promote helpful inflammation. But some strains of the flu, particularly the H1N1 strain responsible for the Spanish flu outbreak, can trigger a dangerous immune overreaction in healthy individuals. In those cases, the body is overloaded with cytokines leading to severe inflammation and the fatal buildup of fluid in the lungs.
“In simple terms, the emerging evidence supports postulations that the 1918 pandemic was caused by a misguided – and very experimental – Rockefeller Institute meningitis vaccination program which was initiated at Fort Riley by the US military and spread to the world from there.”
Feb 18 2021
"Fauci: There's evidence COVID-19 vaccines don't just protect you - they may stop you from spreading the virus to others, too"
https://archive.vn/X1knQ"Two new studies suggest vaccinated people don't spread the coronavirus well, even if they get sick... Taken together, they are some of the earliest evidence we have that even if vaccinated people do get sick with COVID-19 - in what's called a "breakthrough" infection - the chances that they will then transmit their illness to others are far lower than if they had remained unvaccinated."
Says nothing about the “vaccine” stopping people from getting sick. Suggests they will have a smaller viral load if they get sick and they will not spread covid. Stipulation: But with the variants who knows...
Break through: “However, like is seen with other vaccines, we expect thousands of vaccine breakthrough cases will occur even though the vaccine is working as expected.””
But it’s not their fault, it’s your immune system “CDC Director Rochelle Walensky told members of Congress during a hearing in Washington this week that in some cases, the breakthroughs are caused by “failure of an immune response in the host.”
Not seeing those numbers. To make this argument, we need the document that shows 43-45 and 28.
Indeed, needs to be verified.
So I'm seeing that Tennessee uses 35-40. https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/health/documents/cedep/novel-coronavirus/Ct_Fact_Sheet.pdf
Had a look through the state government health websites for each of the other 49 states, the CDC, and a few other sources (to look for PCR testing thresholds).
Learned something, either: I'm very bad at looking this up, I don't know where to look, and/or most states aren't very transparent at all.
Also learned that while they are all happy to make it easy for you to find information for testing and vaccines on their government websites, they seem less interested in sharing PCR data (shocking right?). Some of the state government websites barely talked about PCR's, some described them quite well without giving their thresholds.
Only have PCR thresholds for 5 out of 50 states, namely: Alaska, Kansas, Minnesota, Oregon, and, Tennessee. Four of these have 35-40 (at times of latest PCR threshold release), and one has < 33.
I suspect either Rocco has access to information not shown below, or, he's referring to a previous month early on in the pandemic when PCR's were higher (there's one case below where it dropped after 4-5 months).
Nice work. My guess is most of these states send it to Lab Corp or one of the other labs and trust them to use the default thresholds for Covid.
Thanks! Rocco might have had a particular state in mind when he made that claim. 35-40 is bad enough, though, and does give the contrast to 28.
Edit:
The Tweet has a reply saying that Rocco misrepresented the CDC page linked above for PCR tests of vaccinated people.
"That's not what the document states. Wonder if you even read it. I'm a fan of yours but the 28 cycles is for sequencing of the genome this is not to determine positivity. Sequencing is a different process unrelated to positive testing. Be better than this Rocco."
https://twitter.com/CliffKYYJ/status/1388273900203638787
Comparing the CDC page and the Tennessee page that you provided, this Twitter commentator seems to be wrong (i.e., Rocco had it right).
CDC document:
Tennessee document:
The link in the tweet to the CDC website literally confirms the 28 PCR cycles for vaccinated people.
That's part of his point--they are vague and evasive about the cycle threshold for unvaccinated people but clearly state that those vaccinated need a lower threshold.
Go to page 38 here for the 40 cycles that’s been creating cases for a long time. https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download
Go to page one of this document for the 28 cycle cut off: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
“Clinical specimens for sequencing should have an RT-PCR Ct value ≤28.”
asking the real questions
I remember early on watching the guy who invented the PCR test say anything over 35x is a false positive... absolutely worthless. He said it absolutely wasn't designed to be used as a pos/neg test.
Yup, one of the Twitter replies to this Tweet said something to this effect:
https://twitter.com/rockinangelx/status/1388232704949309440
That guy is Kerry Mullis
He called Fauci a fool and not a real doctor, that he would lie to your face
and he passed away
in Oct 2019 iirc
If I never watched the news or logged on, I would not know that we even had a pandemic. No one I know got sick or died.
i live in London and I havent got this deadly virus and I dont wear my mask anywhere. AND I STILL DONT KNOW 1 PEROSN WHO'S EVEN HAD IT LET ALONE DIED AFTER 13 MONTHS
This is unreal.
Need to have those vaccinated case numbers down, while inflating the unvacciated cases, to make the vaccine look like it's doing wonders for curbing cases.
Couldn't verify the claim myself that Rocco made about unvaccinated people getting tested with PCR Thresholds at 43-45. If true, then this is hugely corrupt.
He gives a source for the second claim (CDC document), about vaccinated people being tested with PCR thresholds of 28:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/downloads/Information-for-laboratories-COVID-vaccine-breakthrough-case-investigation.pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/j39dlw.pdf
Credit:
https://omegacanada.win/p/12iNUoc1sm/more-fraud-test-the-unvaccinated/c/
One big hoax. Lies, poisonous vax, unhealthy masks, unnecessary lockdowns, falsified stats, ... ACCOUNTIBILITY ---> Gitmo
And 28 is still to high. 17 is the limit but the test was not designed to test for SARS-Covid2. CDC and Fraudci told us.
‘"Most samples that test positive at PHO are found after a low number of cycles are run. However, any indication of the virus in a sample is important, regardless of how many cycles it took to find."
— Samir Patel, Clinical Microbiologist and Deputy Chief Microbiology, Public Health Ontario‘
Lol. Read this and you’ll lose whatever little faith you had in this testing regime: https://www.publichealthontario.ca/en/about/blog/2021/explained-covid19-pcr-testing-and-cycle-thresholds
Here’s more: ‘ Why aren’t cycle threshold reported on test results?
‘Like with other PCR tests (including non-COVID-19 tests), it is not recommended to provide Ct values on test results in Ontario (and Canada). PCR tests tell us if the virus is present or not in the sample provided to the lab; however, there are other factors to consider in interpreting lab results. Ct values are not directly comparable from one PCR test kit to the next, and can change with increased transportation times, sample storage conditions, and sample collection method.
‘Because of this, Ct values can help support lab specialists in validating results as well as reviewing complex cases. However, they need to be considered alongside the other important factors we discussed earlier – like exposure history and individual characteristics. At PHO, Ct values are available to health care professionals upon request, and low level detected results (Ct value 35 to 38) are indicated on the laboratory report (since November 2020). We also have specialists who are available to health care professionals who have any questions on interpreting lab results or want to discuss complex cases. There is still a lot to learn about Ct values and more research is required to fully understand Ct values and their link to disease onset, severity and infectiousness.’
What?
Rocco Galati is the Executive Director and founder of CRC (Constitutiona Rights Center) in Canada and he is taking court actions along with some police officers against the police enforcements and covid BS in Ontario. I believe it would have a domino effect across all of Canada. There is a pdf available for download of the court filing at the website. It's 25 pages but not necessary to read all but well worth it. Here's a link https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/
Wait… why are vaxed people even getting tests?? Isn’t the purpose of a vaccine to eradicate a certain type of virus?? Clown show at its finest ? ? ?
The second wave
Watch for the term “Breakthrough” covid cases.
History is about to repeat with a lovely MRna colored techno skin.
The resurgence in both hospitalisations and deaths is dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine, comprising around 60% and 70% of the wave respectively. Pdf: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/975909/S1182_SPI-M-O_Summary_of_modelling_of_easing_roadmap_step_2_restrictions.pdf
April 14 2021:Breakthrough covid “142 Fully Vaccinated People in Houston Test Positive for COVID-19” https://m.theepochtimes.com/142-fully-vaccinated-people-in-houston-test-positive-for-covid-19_3775710.html “Dr. David Persse, the city’s chief medical officer, said residents getting infected after being fully vaccinated is “not unexpected” because the jab doesn’t grant recipients 100 percent immunity”
Incoming a “W curve” https://www.history.com/news/spanish-flu-second-wave-resurgence To be blamed on the mutated strain (caused by the vaccine)
but it was also how they were dying. Struck with blistering fevers, nasal hemorrhaging and pneumonia, the patients would drown in their own fluid-filled lungs. Only decades later were scientists able to explain the phenomenon now known as “cytokine explosion.” When the human body is being attacked by a virus, the immune system sends messenger proteins called cytokines to promote helpful inflammation. But some strains of the flu, particularly the H1N1 strain responsible for the Spanish flu outbreak, can trigger a dangerous immune overreaction in healthy individuals. In those cases, the body is overloaded with cytokines leading to severe inflammation and the fatal buildup of fluid in the lungs.
Jan 1 2021: “Did Rockefeller create the ‘Spanish Flu’ pandemic of 1918?” https://news.fiar.me/2021/01/did-rockefeller-created-the-spanish-flu-pandemic-of-1918-ii/
“In simple terms, the emerging evidence supports postulations that the 1918 pandemic was caused by a misguided – and very experimental – Rockefeller Institute meningitis vaccination program which was initiated at Fort Riley by the US military and spread to the world from there.”
Feb 18 2021 "Fauci: There's evidence COVID-19 vaccines don't just protect you - they may stop you from spreading the virus to others, too" https://archive.vn/X1knQ "Two new studies suggest vaccinated people don't spread the coronavirus well, even if they get sick... Taken together, they are some of the earliest evidence we have that even if vaccinated people do get sick with COVID-19 - in what's called a "breakthrough" infection - the chances that they will then transmit their illness to others are far lower than if they had remained unvaccinated." Says nothing about the “vaccine” stopping people from getting sick. Suggests they will have a smaller viral load if they get sick and they will not spread covid. Stipulation: But with the variants who knows...
April 15 2021: breakthrough, doesn’t prevent covid, “CDC: Nearly 6,000 People Infected with COVID Even After Getting Vaccine” https://amgreatness.com/2021/04/15/cdc-nearly-6000-people-infected-with-covid-even-after-getting-vaccine/ “The news is the latest setback for nationwide vaccination efforts”
Death April 17 2021: “Fully Vaccinated Person Dies of COVID-19 in Texas, Officials Say” https://m.theepochtimes.com/fully-vaccinated-person-dies-of-covid-19-in-texas-officials-say_3780014.html “To date, no unexpected patterns have been identified in case demographics or vaccine characteristics,” the spokesperson said in an email”
Break through: “However, like is seen with other vaccines, we expect thousands of vaccine breakthrough cases will occur even though the vaccine is working as expected.””
But it’s not their fault, it’s your immune system “CDC Director Rochelle Walensky told members of Congress during a hearing in Washington this week that in some cases, the breakthroughs are caused by “failure of an immune response in the host.”
https://files.catbox.moe/ghqh87.jpeg
You are all ANIMALS when it comes to research. Thanks to TheConservatists for sharing this Tweet.
It has to be testing sites that can manipulate the cycles. We can’t do that on Panther, Filmarry or BD Max.
We are seeing “vaccine breakthroughs” and send those off for Whole Genome Sequencing.
A six year old tested positive yesterday.
If I ever had to get a covid test, I'd lie and say I had been vaccinated.