Fear of going to the hot place is a totally legit reason to get right with God.
I mean, all you really need to do is acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God, and that he died for your sins. If you can cross that bridge in your mind, the rest falls into place pretty easily.
And many will stand like men knowing they’ve lived moral lives simply bc it was the right thing to do...because of principles, not out of FEAR; doing something just to cover your ass (or bc you might get a cookie) is what slaves do. If He chooses blind, mindless sheep, motivated by fear, over free-thinking, principled humans, motivated by good/truth, well then you can keep Him.
I would tend to agree with that; the judeo-christian tales/values laid out in the Bible are a wonderful source of wisdom and an excellent framework for a good and just life. I believe it is an amazing example of our human values evolving right along with us; for a story to survive for SO long, there HAS to be some truth in it (whether it’s more metaphorical: ‘live this way and that will lead to balance and happiness’, or more literal.)
What if I told you your concept of a good and moral life is rooted in Jesus' loving sacrifice for us on the cross. And that we know NCSWIC because God wins as demonstrated by the victory over life errors, malevolent beings, and death itself.
Earth is the great filter. We have free choice to do as we will. And our choices will show who we are. And there are consequences for both good, and bad choices
Death is a certainty because we all die but the existence of god is not a certainty because that has never been absolutely proven but instead merely out of faith.
People should stop trying to reach for things in life that simply do not exist. If god were real then it'd be no better than the cabal. Someone wanting us to live a certain way or face eternal punishment.
The cabal is evil and scum of the planet and needs to be taken out completely but going by the OP's context, this would place god in a worse light than the cabal.
The bible thumpers want to preach to do this and that or burn in hell forever which is far worse than how the cabal works and the cabal is the worst part of humanity by far.
We are here to share information, provide information to the sleeping sheep and so on. We are not here to try to play the role of the MSM and try to mk ultra people into believing in god.
For those godly people, perhaps you should study the bible in actual detail, including the old testament without making excuses.
Before people tried to change the original bible text to suite their preferences and virtue signally but in original text, the so called god went as far as demand people murder and sacrifice first born children in the name of god.
The bible of all versions was written by man, just written by us humans so it's no different than how the cabal has attempted to write history the way they wanted it to be seen rather than how it actually was.
If people got their heads out their asses and stopped praying to god and do something for themselves then perhaps more people would know real history that is available to be found with proper research, some of which involves traveling the world doing hands on research outside of internet and news media and churches.
Are you not tired of having a master though? If you're a vet then perhaps you know this country doesn't care about you or me. In life people often always have a master of some sort. People on a job typically have a manager that fills the role of master, do as you're told or leave.
In the military you have commanding officers that can tell you what to do. You have police that believe they are better than us and often believe they're filling that role of master. The government on all levels plays master and will destroy someone, sometimes even killing someone to maintain the role of master.
If god were real then that'd just mean yet another master which would mean that no matter what, in life and death we're all just nothing but a little bitch serving a master thus having no true worth to humanity or anything else.
I saw a story a while back about a guy near Clearwater FL was fighting the city to keep this house and land because his grass was over 10 inches high at one point. Far too often, the best someone can hope for is to live a life of peace without being bothered or harassed excessively which truly shouldn't be how things are.
In my life, I am completely free. I am my own boss and have long cut ties with anyone that brought drama or bad things to my life. I've even moved a few hundred miles further south in FL but that was the best thing I could have done. Friends and family where I used to live are just bad news in so many ways.
Everyone should be seen as equal with the potential for self worth and worth in life.
This is a classic Pascal's wager. Not what I would consider the best, but you do you. I'll just be an atheist and a good person and hopefully that will be enough regardless of what's waiting for me.
You don't have to believe in some deity to acknowledge the existence of the soul or there being more than one life.
Belief should be about boiling things down to the minimum rather than hinging belief upon faith upon belief ad nauseam, that is a house of cards that will either crumble or get shored up by people becoming more and more fanatical to keep that from happening.
It is perfectly possible to believe in things without deities being among those beliefs...
You speak of deities. We speak of God. Not the same. Also, those deities you speak of are false idols according to God's Word. The Key is in Jesus Christ our risen Lord and Savior. God's Son.
A choice out of fear... not for me. Fear is the entire base of the cabal control mechanism. Perpetuating it here send the exact opposite of the entire great awakening movement.
You seem as vengeful as the god you claim. Not much of an attractor. I do thank you, tho, for exposing to all the depth of joy you seem to take in the demise of others. It helps expose the truth.
Yes, let's just ignore there are many religions with different gods and pretend that you're no different than an atheist ignoring all of those gods, plus yours.
If you're not willing to put more thought into your faith, how do you think you will ever persuade other people?
My ex was an atheist. He said in all his years God never showed himself to him so there is no God. I said why would you expect Him to come to you; did you ever go to Him?
To him lying, cheating, stealing, swearing, fighting was no problem unless you got busted. So how could anyone be a 'good person' if they dont know about God, doesnt follow the commandments, has no moral compass?
He said I dont believe in God. I told him you will but it'll be too late.
That just makes it sound like you do it from fear of punishment/want of reward. Not a convincing argument at to any atheist at all.
Fear of going to the hot place is a totally legit reason to get right with God.
I mean, all you really need to do is acknowledge that Jesus is the son of God, and that he died for your sins. If you can cross that bridge in your mind, the rest falls into place pretty easily.
And many will stand like men knowing they’ve lived moral lives simply bc it was the right thing to do...because of principles, not out of FEAR; doing something just to cover your ass (or bc you might get a cookie) is what slaves do. If He chooses blind, mindless sheep, motivated by fear, over free-thinking, principled humans, motivated by good/truth, well then you can keep Him.
I would tend to agree with that; the judeo-christian tales/values laid out in the Bible are a wonderful source of wisdom and an excellent framework for a good and just life. I believe it is an amazing example of our human values evolving right along with us; for a story to survive for SO long, there HAS to be some truth in it (whether it’s more metaphorical: ‘live this way and that will lead to balance and happiness’, or more literal.)
What if I told you your concept of a good and moral life is rooted in Jesus' loving sacrifice for us on the cross. And that we know NCSWIC because God wins as demonstrated by the victory over life errors, malevolent beings, and death itself.
I'm not a little bitch though. I'd never drop to my knees for anyone but I always take responsibility for my actions and life and accept them.
If you've done nothing wrong then what have you to fear?
Or we can help love the into believing in that goodness.
God is much bigger than that. And since all have sinned we have no right to relegate any person to help. Its our job to love them in His stead.
It will be too late, I’m afraid
We were given a physical body for a reason
Earth is the great filter. We have free choice to do as we will. And our choices will show who we are. And there are consequences for both good, and bad choices
this has what to do with q?
As an ex-atheist I can promise you fear tactics don't work. God draws us to him with love and an abundance of mercy.
"Behold, I go to make all things new."
"As all died in Adam so all shall be made alive in Christ."
"His mercy endures forever."
"God is not willing that any should perish."
"EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue confess."
Its better to not think of everything as lunitive. Its better to truly follow Christ and live with real joy and happiness that comes from it.
Death is a certainty because we all die but the existence of god is not a certainty because that has never been absolutely proven but instead merely out of faith.
People should stop trying to reach for things in life that simply do not exist. If god were real then it'd be no better than the cabal. Someone wanting us to live a certain way or face eternal punishment.
The cabal is evil and scum of the planet and needs to be taken out completely but going by the OP's context, this would place god in a worse light than the cabal.
The bible thumpers want to preach to do this and that or burn in hell forever which is far worse than how the cabal works and the cabal is the worst part of humanity by far.
We are here to share information, provide information to the sleeping sheep and so on. We are not here to try to play the role of the MSM and try to mk ultra people into believing in god.
For those godly people, perhaps you should study the bible in actual detail, including the old testament without making excuses.
Before people tried to change the original bible text to suite their preferences and virtue signally but in original text, the so called god went as far as demand people murder and sacrifice first born children in the name of god.
The bible of all versions was written by man, just written by us humans so it's no different than how the cabal has attempted to write history the way they wanted it to be seen rather than how it actually was.
If people got their heads out their asses and stopped praying to god and do something for themselves then perhaps more people would know real history that is available to be found with proper research, some of which involves traveling the world doing hands on research outside of internet and news media and churches.
God's existence has been more than proven to me. Continue to search but believing precedes seeing...just so you know where the fault lies.
Are you not tired of having a master though? If you're a vet then perhaps you know this country doesn't care about you or me. In life people often always have a master of some sort. People on a job typically have a manager that fills the role of master, do as you're told or leave.
In the military you have commanding officers that can tell you what to do. You have police that believe they are better than us and often believe they're filling that role of master. The government on all levels plays master and will destroy someone, sometimes even killing someone to maintain the role of master.
If god were real then that'd just mean yet another master which would mean that no matter what, in life and death we're all just nothing but a little bitch serving a master thus having no true worth to humanity or anything else.
I saw a story a while back about a guy near Clearwater FL was fighting the city to keep this house and land because his grass was over 10 inches high at one point. Far too often, the best someone can hope for is to live a life of peace without being bothered or harassed excessively which truly shouldn't be how things are.
In my life, I am completely free. I am my own boss and have long cut ties with anyone that brought drama or bad things to my life. I've even moved a few hundred miles further south in FL but that was the best thing I could have done. Friends and family where I used to live are just bad news in so many ways.
Everyone should be seen as equal with the potential for self worth and worth in life.
This is a classic Pascal's wager. Not what I would consider the best, but you do you. I'll just be an atheist and a good person and hopefully that will be enough regardless of what's waiting for me.
It is better to repent of your sins, accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour and follow Him. The Kingdom of God is at hand.
You don't have to believe in some deity to acknowledge the existence of the soul or there being more than one life.
Belief should be about boiling things down to the minimum rather than hinging belief upon faith upon belief ad nauseam, that is a house of cards that will either crumble or get shored up by people becoming more and more fanatical to keep that from happening.
It is perfectly possible to believe in things without deities being among those beliefs...
You speak of deities. We speak of God. Not the same. Also, those deities you speak of are false idols according to God's Word. The Key is in Jesus Christ our risen Lord and Savior. God's Son.
Or is it better to know that God is love and light and that he has no darkness at all in Him.
That Je so loved the world he gave his only begotten son Nd gave its unto men.
Eternal life is a result of that gift. A promise of a resurrection and new body at Christ return. And many benefits as you walk this corrupt earth.
A choice out of fear... not for me. Fear is the entire base of the cabal control mechanism. Perpetuating it here send the exact opposite of the entire great awakening movement.
You seem as vengeful as the god you claim. Not much of an attractor. I do thank you, tho, for exposing to all the depth of joy you seem to take in the demise of others. It helps expose the truth.
Just live your life. Why bother worrying what lies beyond death as long as you lived a good life?
Which god? Can I double-dip to be extra safe?
Yes, let's just ignore there are many religions with different gods and pretend that you're no different than an atheist ignoring all of those gods, plus yours.
If you're not willing to put more thought into your faith, how do you think you will ever persuade other people?
Then stop treating God like a fire escape from hell. That's fraudulent.
God so loved the world he Gave... loved dude, not judged. Loved.
Hmm, so this is about just showing off how Christian you are, and not actually doing anything constructive. Doesn't your God dislike that?
My ex was an atheist. He said in all his years God never showed himself to him so there is no God. I said why would you expect Him to come to you; did you ever go to Him?
To him lying, cheating, stealing, swearing, fighting was no problem unless you got busted. So how could anyone be a 'good person' if they dont know about God, doesnt follow the commandments, has no moral compass?
He said I dont believe in God. I told him you will but it'll be too late.
He died.