I am done trying to open people's eyes/red pill them. I don't care if they ever see the light any more. When one of my best friends who agrees with me on the corruption in the catholic church tells me the boards are full of shit and that MY belief system is flawed? The time has come for me to tell the sheep and normies to fuck off and enjoy the slap in the face when it comes. This "friend" tells me "the government is one step away from naming you and all the anons donestic terrorists". It's time to say see ya. I won't desolve the friendship, but I will let him stay in his little bubble. FUCK THE SHEEPLE AND THE NORMIES!!! THEY GET WHAT THEY DESERVE!!! Sorry but I'm angry as fuck!!!
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Even most conservatives are taking it because Trump is shilling so hard for the vaccine. It's sad, and making me lose hope.
You've done what you could to help the people you've tried to red pill. You can't fix their stupid, and it's good that you know when it's time to quit.
Hey anon, it sounds like you might be going about this wrong.
After 30+ years of doing this there's some things that are telling that you might want to look at:
first.. breathing slowly a few times.
second.. always.. always.. always probe gently around friends and family. Always do this, or it can become a disaster. Did i mention always probe gently with some leading questions? ok so let me be crystal clear: Always. Probe. Gently. With. Light. Questions. Always.
Third.. never lose your cool.
fourth.. don't take thigns personal. Stand firm in what you believe. Be careful not to commit yourself to something that you have no evidence for. But don't be quick to dismiss something if you have no evidence for it. Create some mind containers: "Fact", "needs more information", "False". Guess what your biggest container will be? yep, "Needs more information." Get used to it.
Long story short, don't give up anon. Just reflect, and re-adjust. There could be someone who just needs to hear it from you and they are awake, but if you don't say anything they are lost. and i almost forgot to mention, be gentle around friends and family.
47 years doing this here... I've done all that and am just fed up. Some are reachable some aren't. Done beating my head against the wall they created for themselves... peace to you fren...
yeah anon, know that situation really well. i had to find the line where anything that i regret saying/doing was past. Spent almost a decade getting to the line, now i can fight like a possessed person right to the line, but as kind and polite as an angel. A unique thing happened, i was able to sap their energy and whittle them down, when i was able to see that they knew they were past the line, and trying to get me there. Not a single thing anyone can say anymore can phase me.
Oh how I would love to have that cool headedness. I’ve found myself avoiding just talking outright in many situations simply because it’s just too much. I want to be able to tackle these situations, though, without it getting to me.
Understand that they are victims of a psyop. This does not make them bad people, it just means they are terribly misguided.
Plato’s allegory of the cave is helpful.
https://youtu.be/_jmJGBJRlUQ
They will resist and they may be upset with you for telling them the truth.
If you friend was drunk and convinced he could jump off the barn, would he be pissed at you for telling him not to?
Trust me, it’s worth exercising caution for loved ones and being patient with them, even when they are being stupid, even when they say things that are hurtful.
This will pass and when it does whether you still have a relationship or not will depend on how you treat them while they are deluded.
When it does pass, you will be grateful to have them around.
I know. I figure I could have easily just been one of them had my circumstances been any different. But yeah, I do suppose it does help having a reminder here and there any time one of my buds starts talking. Thank you, friend. Need this pasted on my eyelids or something.
anon, staying silent is an achievement in itself. There are ways to improve though, it's only a matter of running headlong into situations many times to build up a mountain of ways to tackle the problem (bravery or foolish? idk). If you want to be really good at what i'm about to say, make sure you have a strong foundation of faith in God. If you don't have that, start there instead.
You can dump yourself into situations online with dens of enemies - for example i spent years in atheist forums learning all their shots and mastered every counter (they hate me now), and i also spent time in metabunk (the leftist asserters of media propaganda)). But you don't have to experience them directly if you have a good imagination, and you can use empathy. For example, the internet provides many testimonies and fights between people going through some of the worst, even with video in a lot of cases. Using your imagination fight the urge to say "glad it's not me" and instead say "this is me", put yourself in their shoes, Imagine you too lost limb or an entire sense, a family, or a mafia gets you and torturues you in the worst way possible, ganged up on in jail for their pleasure, or someone threw acid on your face. Put yourself in their shoes, and learn train yourself with being OK with it if it happened to you.
This isn't for everyone but for the fighters who need it. However you can build up strength and your mind to deal with the shame, ridicule, depression, or grief that may accompany all of the above situations. It might require you to place yourself into lighter situations to deal with them first, and build yourself up. Then break because some things are so vivid and hard to cope with (there is some really bad things out there, makes me sick).
Honestly, i see my body as just some shell. It's my spirit that counts, and sure it would initially suck to lose an arm or leg or a sense, or having acid thrown on me, and require some time to get used to it, but the recovery for me will be among the fastest, because my spirit remains with God. I've subjected myself to every possible thing and pre-empted the mental anguish of it, and am prepared for the absolute worst anyone can do, even the most evil anyone can do.
I wouldn't say i'm fearless, but have you ever seen a dog or cat lose an arm or leg, and they seem fine afterwards? that's my aim. I needed to prepare this way because i'm a soldier and need to be prepared for the psychological worst. In fact, some doctors are amazed at how calm i am when i go to hospital for some accidental surgery.. bleeding out but telling them to remain calm it looks owrse than it is. I would have no issue being the first on the battlefield. And I could go through WW3 and come out with a smile too, and no long-term effects, because i've subjected myself to the worst.
This isn't for everyone, anons. just those who need to know. Stuff like this can break people.
Thanks for the reply, friend. My biggest struggle right now is discerning right from wrong. Perhaps, though, it's willpower that I should work on right now. Because we all make mistakes, but it's my fear of having to live with it that has me thrown in a loop.
Yep, that's where you need God. That's how i can fight to the line. God knows everything, from the greatest good to the worst evil. We have the knowledge of good and evil.
Look at things on the scale:
[SATAN]-[EVIL]-[BAD]-|THIS IS THE LINE|-[OK]-[GOOD]-[CHRIST]
Don't pass the line! You can reach in to grab and pull out. But do not step past the line. As soon as you do you're going to get grabbed and pulled into confusion of pure wickedness, and it's easy, so easy to just let go and get pulled there. Stay aiming to pure righteousness. it's a bit more work, but by God, it's worth it every step of the way. and the first steps may be hard, but once you get your stride, you're going places.
If you have been doing this for 47 years you sound like an oldie but goodie like me. I have always chosen my path and followed the dictates if my heart and mind even if it wasn't mainstream and went against the norm. I think we need to change what we can and accept what we can't.
I have already had a 39 year old mother of 4 (niece) die because of the bio-weapon jab. I have family that chose differently than me and my children. I have children that married pro-vaxxers and it breaks my heart to see 3 out of 7 grandchildren vaccinated with traditional vaccines. It grieves me to consider the consequences of their bad choices but I have to ACCEPT their right to choose. I can't control the world...I have to let go and let God. Find the peace that passes understanding or you will be no good to anyone for anything...especially yourself.
And pray for God's grace and mercy as we are in the midst of a holocaust and I don't think anyone will be unaffected. These are the times that try men's souls. At least you have a soul...you care. "Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, and you shall find REST FOR YOUR SOUL" God bless you and yours.
Amen
They really are brainwashed.
I've been trying with a few stubborn people, I really have.. but when you start telling me that its normal for healthy people to drop dead, instead of admitting the vax has issues, I've lost my patience.
I was told that even if the goverment is 99% corrupt, they still "take care of the american people" and even those who are corrupt can "have the peoples best interests in mind", in what fucking world??
The mental gymnastics you have to listen to as they argue, pisses me off.
They act so condescending about it as well, "Yeah big pharma had been taling advantage of people for years, but they know whats best for us! Theyre experts"
The consequences are going to catch up.
This was me three months ago.
I've tried to remain positive and optimistic with him and another friend. The other friend has a wait and see outlook. He's waiting on the arrests. I am truly saddened by the depth of the brainwashing that has taken place in our country... I fully trust and believe in the plan and have for a long time. I dont know what to think any more...
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. -Mahatma Gandhi
....can lead a horse to water, but can't make it drink.
OP, it is a hard thing trying to red pill others. Many will hear what you say and at times even agree with you, but you will find sooner or later that they didn't take the pill. Very few will swallow the red pill at the behest of one of their friends when they look around and see everything else telling them (sometimes screaming at them) that the red pill has to be wrong and their friend (you) have to be crazy at least.
Just to reframe things somewhat, you have told your friend what you have come to understand is the reality, you owe him nothing more in that. Your friend may come around eventually from his own journey, or the reality will come upon him all at once when the curtain is pulled back.
You may want to use the Socratic method in your future red pilling. If the person is at all curious, they may find your questions of interest and begin looking for answers, which will make them more receptive to the truth if they see the cracks in the facade of reality being fed to them daily. Also, the Socratic method may benefit you by making you less the target for ridicule and rejection directly should the people you try to red pill reject the pill.
Few soils are plowed and fertile and ready when the farmer first arrives on the land. It takes time and effort and often the first crop fails to yield a great harvest. Repeated efforts to improve the soil and to make it ready for planted seeds eventually leads to a successful crop and harvest. Keep throwing out seed OP maybe not in the same field, but in whatever field you find yourself in.
In many ways, red pilling people is like being Cassandra of Troy (ok well not the consort to Apollo fiasco par). Nobody believed her either and Troy fell into the destruction plotted for it after ignoring her warnings.
Let us hope our outcome fares better.
I won't, I'll keep pushing until everyone is redpilled or friendships are dissolved. That is what friends do.
We are at a critical junction, if we don't rectify the issue now then even after Trump's return we'll risk devolving into the same problem within another decade or two.
What is needed now is making use of exponentially compounding networking effects to reach a critical mass of people. Every individual counts.
the ones left are the ones Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn warned us about.
I feel you brother! I just found out that the last two months I've been visiting my parents on the weekends to just catch up on each other's week. They have been hiding to me that they got vaccinated. I found out from my older sister that they both got vaccinated a couple of months prior. They were always very vocal to me about there beliefs and support for Trump, so I never thought they would have gotten it. I'm not angry at them because it is there choice to do what they want. I have educated them on things like Ivermectin that could potentially be helpful to them if they ever get sick or have side effects from the vaccine. They did get the J&J one and for some reason that one doesn't make me as nervous as the others.
Prayers to your parents fren...
I understand the frustration, however this is not a positive was to deal with it.
This is a marathon, not a sprint.
If you damage your personal social network of family and friends, this will degrade your capability and endurance in the long run.
Understand what is happening. Your family and friends are victims of a well designed and well deployed psychological operation. This is information warfare and they are casualties. You can wake them, but it will take time and patience and compassion.
And it will be worth it.
Imagine being right ... and being all alone.
Slow down, have patience. They are scared.
Friends and family are the hardest to accept the bs from. Having said that, kek... ?
OP there choices are not about you!!!
I know you’re trying to help your friends and you want them to be able to see the truth in the world. I know how frustrating is trying to tell someone something and not have to listen to anything you say it’s annoying. But the choice not to believe in Q or that the Vac is bad is their choice! The choice not to research their choice to do what they’re told is just that it’s their choice and it’s not about you.
You don’t know the kinds of things that other people in your friends lives are saying. They wife girlfriend mother father brother might all be saying to get the vaccine, and you’re just the one voice that’s out of the ordinary making it really hard to make a compelling case.
You Can’t know the entirety of the reasons why people make the choices that they do that’s not your job. Your job is to tell people if they choose to listen great if they don’t that’s fine we keep going and move on. Not everyone is going to believe and that’s okay.
The hardest thing to do when you care about someone is let them fail. The most important thing you need to do sometimes is let people fail.
Just leave it for awhile OP people come around eventually. I have seen a lot of people come around because of what happened to Britney Spears, this journey takes time you can’t force that.
Hope this made some sense
Divided we fall United we stand