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Vindicator63 61 points ago +61 / -0

I could see this coming when apartheid came to an end. Not that I would ever condone that, but back then I felt it was only a matter of time. A lot of South Africans never forgot that, either [at least the ones I know, and their friends]. I had one guy from Johannesburg tell me one time that the world had no idea who Nelson Mandela really was - they saw him as a smiling, oppressed victim of all of that - but he was actually a vindictive terrorist who espoused communist ideals and who married Winnie who was actually worse. Of course, history is open to interpretation, but to hear it from people who fled there post-apartheid, there is some sense of truth to it.

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basilpesto 33 points ago +33 / -0

I never knew this. Growing up we were taught Mandela was this saint of a man who stood up to tyranny … then I realized it was all too fairy tale, I knew it was probably a mix of bull and giraffe shit, with a dash of rabbit pellets. But I never got around to digging more into it.

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Phishhed44 22 points ago +22 / -0

There ya go with recipes again! You forgot garlic.

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Weero 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nah, the garlic keeps away the blood sucking parasites, it can't be part of a globalist recipe.

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mmkay. A sprinkle of cumin then?

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AmphibianPlague 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s def the cumin….

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MarkusCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mandela did prison time for being part of a bombing conspiracy

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Galvatron27 17 points ago +17 / -0

You're not wrong. I knew a preacher from (then) Rhodesia before Mugabe turned it into Zimbabwe. He and his brother fought against Mugabe and his terrorists when they were younger. Every time I think back to someone who got mainstream praise I now find out how deranged they really were/are.

His brother was in the SAS. And Britain was politically against the war yet sending him behind enemy lines with 1 clip of FN-FAL ammunition. He would complete HALO jumps with no oxygen (because they weren't providing that either) and immediately upon hitting the ground would have to pick up an enemy rifle. He told me he used the AK-47 more than any other weapon because that's all he could get a hold of.

But yes, all of these state sponsored terrorists are all the same, isn't it any wonder how they always come to power?

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CreateAnAccountant 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rhodesian SAS or British SAS? and Britain didnt sponsor or support the Bush War in any way, let alone dropping their own soldiers into the combat areas.

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Galvatron27 3 points ago +3 / -0

British SAS, and you're right, they "didn't" support the war. That's why they were sending him over ill-equipped. His brother was in the Rhodesian army.

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CreateAnAccountant 1 point ago +1 / -0

ah, ok, I was there in the 70s/early 80s. high tea at babour's dept store in salisbury was quite the thing, Rho was more old school british than england.

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Battlefield 12 points ago +12 / -0

Your friend from Johannesburg is right. Thanks to the media narrative, it was years before I discovered the full story about Nelson Mandela. In his statement in court at his trial, Nelson Mandela admitted the terrorist charges against him. He was openly proud of what he did. He doesn't deny what he did.

On the other hand, I think I recall reading that he directed the attacks to be against infrastructure, rather than against people. Is that accurate?

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Woodinleg 6 points ago +6 / -0

https://youtu.be/v4gv7isyXMI look at around 6:08 at the lyrics of the ANC. "We have pledged to kill the whites." Doesn't Sound like the good ole peaceful tunes grandpa used to sing and by all accounts, he was none too fond of other races.

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EchoLight 6 points ago +6 / -0

This red pill is completely new to me. Where can I find the real story of Nelson Mandela?

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Vindicator63 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is voluminous literature out there, but the thing I found works best is to read several accounts [can't think of one specifically right off the bat, but DuckDuckGo is a good place to start] and talk to people. That one guy from Johannesburg I spoke of was in America living full-time traveling the country in an RV. He used to be up late at night talking on the phone because of the time difference. Incredible journey - he left just as the "new era" was beginning, and was glad he did. People in America, he told me, had no idea that what they heard about South Africa, specifically Mandela, was wrong.

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Camden105b 27 points ago +27 / -0

What?! I watched the Black Panther movies and I thought they were building this amazing society... huh.

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TheRoyalRob 21 points ago +21 / -0

Yep... If whitey as actually the problem, Africa would be the greatest continent on the face of the earth..... instead of what we actually have.

I mean the only place I would go in Africa is to see the Pyramids.... but I doubt I ever will.

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N0rds 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've been to Egypt a couple times (pre Arab spring bullshit) and it is AMAZING. I really want to go back again once it's safe. The egyptian people are extremely kind and trustworthy. It's the only place in africa I'd dare go, aside from maybe Kenya on a safari, with armed guards...

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Phishhed44 4 points ago +4 / -0

It’s risky too. The whole world is on fire.

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Canadapoli 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://youtu.be/-X3EUfb0e8c Build back better from X-Men: apocalypse

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Warren_Puffitt 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've been to Kenya. Made sure that I left nothing that I had to go back for.

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QDay 13 points ago +14 / -1

Same story as the USA. USA == Whites & Asians < Blacks

Just a few months and a government gun confiscation / transfer from Whites to Blacks before this is happening in a city near you.

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OKRancher 21 points ago +21 / -0

They’re dividing Americans on purpose. It give people somewhere else to direct their anger. It truly is Patriots vs commies but the commies aren’t on the street. They’re paying the morons on the street, they’re in the government, and they’re on the tv.

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DoMagnum 13 points ago +13 / -0

So what happens when the parasites kill their hosts? These creatures are like bipedal locusts. Turn them loose and let them do what they do. We may not have seen this movie before, but we've certainly seen the trailers. Weaponized like the Burn Loot Murder crowd from last summer. This is deliberate and will be repeated in many other places.

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N0rds 7 points ago +7 / -0

Just look at Zimbabwe. They kicked out the white farmers in 2012. Then they all staved to death and their president begged white farmers to come back in 2016. Same will happen here. They wont be able to sustain themselves after genociding the white people. We will see begging for foreign aid and food in the next year.

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AmphibianPlague 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hate to be “that guy” but, it’s an exercise in futility to name ONE single country ran by black people, that is anything other than savagery & failure.

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Vindicator63 3 points ago +3 / -0

Don't feel bad. I feel the same. I think a lot of people feel the same, they just don't want the blowback and the racist label. Just because you point out a fact doesn't make you a racist.

I'm always amazed when I tell people about an old book entitled Wind, Sand & Stars (1929) that details the black-on-black slave trade and gives a brief history of Africa. I came across it in college many moons ago.

Like the X-Files always pointed out, the truth is out there [not UFO's in this case but you get my drift], you just have to know where to look and sometimes it can be a long quest.

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DoMagnum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Indeed. Question was more or less rhetorical in metaphorical form. Every example one can honestly site, shows the same result.

If savages wish to starve, so be it. I do not wish to see industrious people hunted and killed just because the have property worth stealing.

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corrbrick 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe this time, the parasites will be able to invent the wheel and develop a written language.

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DoMagnum 2 points ago +2 / -0

You will forgive me, if I resist the urge to hold my breath.

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prometheus_xiii 13 points ago +15 / -2

Tribalism mentality vs western idealogy. Tribalism has been around for 40000+ years, wokeness has been around for 20.

What your seeing now is the inevitable conclusion of ideology vs reality.

People need to keep to their own to maintain civility. Respect has to be mutual or this is the end result.

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Retaining_H2O 11 points ago +11 / -0

Bang goes South Africa's economy. Which corporations will invest in THAT? Which tourists will visit that? Even The Chinese won't loan money to such an unstable nation.

The nation will go from being the strongest economy in Africa to a ghetto state. It's sad, but if you view South Africa years from now, their largest cities will be unlivable armed military camps and slums.

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Junionthepipeline 10 points ago +10 / -0

The Chinese will walk in and take over in a heartbeat after the upcoming famine.

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Macho_MaamV2 2 points ago +2 / -0

I legit had someone try to sell me a timeshare for Sun City resort there......not in the 90s but now.

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airborne3502 1 point ago +1 / -0

I remember a group of musicians that put out a protest song about not playing Sun City.

I doubt any of them will play there now.

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Cat_Anon 7 points ago +7 / -0

Instructed by who?

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TheMAGAnificent 9 points ago +9 / -0

Cuba

Afghanistan

Haiti

South Africa

Myanmar

China/Taiwan/Japan

Things are unsettling and unravelling all over the globe.

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Phishhed44 3 points ago +3 / -0

Iran.

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Cabal-Bot 2 points ago +2 / -0

Enter the Antichrist to pretend to help save the world ….forget the popcorn- grab your crucifix’s!

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ceegeegee 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is picking up speed toi.

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Hopiumaddict 6 points ago +6 / -0

My brother in laws family is literally taking shifts guarding bridges there. Apparently they are basically out of supplies. Not good what’s going on there.

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007wannabee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nelson Mandela was very friendly with these guys

Bill

Hillary

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russiah 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most importantly he was cozy with the CCP.

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young_roshi 3 points ago +3 / -0

Looks like people who suffer largely due to cabal machinations and are then 'puppeteered' into waging war against those who should be their allies against [them]. Their strategy always: divide and conquer.

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ravonaf 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think Cuba is about ready to come down as well. When the Communists emptied every back account, that tells me they are getting ready to flee.

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Bigly2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Greaaaaat, can’t wait to start sending them all our shit so we can pretend like we care

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SirRupert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Black lives matter until your security fails. Then your life is irrelevant because a lefty liberal living in a parent's basement dictates this doctrine as fair and reasonable rules of hunting and gathering.

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bakcraker 2 points ago +2 / -0

They just created Wakanunda where they own everything, kill non blacks, everything is free and wonderful. Next up will be NGOs asking for money that won’t get there. Let them starve. They own the pain. No pity from me.

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zetaC 2 points ago +2 / -0

LOL you don't have to go to south Africa to get whacked America has plenty cities like it! And if you stupid enough to live around apes well.

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Fembottler 1 point ago +1 / -0

I read it’s isolated to two regions. Like to hear from someone on the ground. Pirkiss?

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ThomasMaker 0 points ago +1 / -1

Africa is the place where the final battle is being waged, they left Antarctica and this is where they are making their last stand...

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magapult -8 points ago +5 / -13

Let them, we have nothing to do with that. It's their problem. Last thing we need is some deep state black hat who will lead the US into meddling with yet another country affairs. Next thing you know, our troops will be fighting another useless 20 year war.

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TruthHurts001 25 points ago +26 / -1

I disagree. We led the effort to end Apartheid, therefore the blood of white South Africans is on our hands.

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LazulaBlue 19 points ago +19 / -0

While I do not disagree with you, we must work on healing the U. S. and ensure we’re strong and healthy enough to aide others.

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captainmawm 3 points ago +4 / -1

Andrew Young and Jimmy Carter.

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magapult 1 point ago +1 / -0

And yet, it is mostly on their own hands. If they wanted to get their country in order, they would have by now - the apartheid ended decades ago. If they had the interest, too.
And in case they couldn't by any means, then they shouldn't be there to begin with.

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TitoshandmadePatriot 9 points ago +9 / -0

the whites have not been. allowed to legally leave the country

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everticus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where did you get that from? One of SA's biggest problem is the brain drain since the 90s with educated white people leaving. I left in 1997, been in the US 24 years and know hundreds of South Africans here.

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captainmawm 1 point ago +3 / -2

That's not true.

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LongTimeListener 4 points ago +4 / -0

You have absolutely no idea what is going on in the world, do you?

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magapult 1 point ago +1 / -0

That tragedy is mostly on their own hands - I don't know what's worse, seeing them blaming others or seeing white americans blaming themselves. If they wanted to get their country in order, they would have by now - the apartheid ended decades ago, and there's been a generation. If they had the interest, too.

And in case they ultimately failed to get it in order, well perhaps they shouldn't be there to begin with - afterall that's not their land. Give the land back to the natives and let them fester in it. Not your stakes. How afraid you are that China will prop / is propping them up? If you have a brain, not at all.

You'd just have to be insanely fucking stupid and naive to get baited into invading or meddling with yet another country at this day and age. If all your research is done through twitter / 4chan / telegram ragebait echochambers, that's what you'd get.