Perhaps the vax is dangerous but not nearly as dangerous as its made out to be, or at least not yet. That is why they promoting the boosters with the stronger poison
Could good guys be pumping up the death numbers to help people stay away from it.
Lets hear some thoughts
If the "white hats" are playing games like this, then they aren't "white hats".
Not only is this not being done, but it's the exact opposite. There is a video going around that shows they are wiping VAERS of deaths and substituting in lessor injuries. The case numbers are staying the same but the earlier patient who died is gone and another patient is now listed under that case number. The guy doing this saved all the earlier data so was showing it all on screen. Don't know if it's true, but it looked real.
couldnt BOTH be true?
The bad guys wants it lowered so people will take jab
The good guys want it higher so people will not take.
you think that if they were to use disinformation in order to save people that they would not be white hats?
Pushing false fear is exactly what's going on by letting " the show" go on. Anything is possible
dont get what you are saying here.
even as a counter to lying and false fear?
Why would we eat babies, what would that counter.....please elaborate
Who are we scaring if we prevent people taking something dangerous?
I still dont get eating babies, what is that about
Okay fair enough you dont want to say anything other than "its wrong" Ill stop pressing for a discussion.
I dont believe anyone. A couple of months ago some guy put out a vid showing certain numbered cases listed a death of a 60+ year old man, the next week he looked up that case number and it was switched to an adverse effect on a 20+ year old female who survived.
If the numbers need pumping, then it's not dangerous. If it's not dangerous why would the white hats want to stop you from getting vaccinated?
Im saying that what if it IS dangerous, and the boosters will make it even more dangerous......but at the present time it is just NOT killing as many people as we are hearing.
It’s actually super easy to “infiltrate” VAERS and pump up the numbers. Want to know how?
Go to the VAERS site. Submit a fake report.
Boom boom boom. You’ve now artificially pumped the VAERS numbers.
Seriously, it’s that easy.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html
That’s all VAERS is. It’s a database that anyone can submit to. It’s essentially just a fancy survey. Doctors have to submit, but any citizen can do it electronically or over mail.
If someone wanted to artificially inflate the death numbers, all it takes is some time and the willingness to fill out the same form over and over again for a while. Easy as pie.
Right, I'm sure. But also I think that is a federal offence, so.... I'm not suggesting it isn't being done by them for those reasons (they've broken enough laws not to worry), but it isn't useful to encourage that to anyone.
I'm definitely not encouraging it. I'm simply showing how VAERS numbers end up in the database. It's just a matter of someone thinking, "Maybe this is 'cause of the vaccine" and submitting a report. Then the numbers show up in the database.
The numbers aren't verified. They're just unfiltered, raw data. Only some of that data actually comes from doctors. The rest just comes from regular people who sit down and fill out the report.
That's why I've been warning people about using VAERS data in arguments about vaccine harm. The VAERS data is not a reliable source of information on that, because those deaths are just reported by literally anyone, not verified.
The numbers aren't a reflection of the harm the vaccines are causing. The numbers reflect the number of people who MIGHT be having some sort of reaction and decide to fill out this form. Like I said, it's just a fancy survey that shows what people have filled out.
Are all reporting systems the same do you know? UK, Europe etc.
Also, would you think that means the reported numbers are inflated? If so, how does that sit alongside empirical data collected from other media? It seems all their other actions go into hiding deaths from the vacs, not inflating them.
I just know about VAERS specifically. But it's not hard to research. If a reporting system is open to the public, it'll have a big page and link advertising it to people so they can submit the reports.
Any system showing numbers reflecting the reports they've received directly is going to be vulnerable to inflated numbers. Because anyone can submit anything. These systems are designed to help researchers find localized trends for investigation, not determine whether the vaccine is causing problems at large. That requires a lot more processing and verification on the data to sort out the bullshit first.
My personal suspicion is that when people here see "deaths" disappear from VAERS, that's not evidence of a cover-up. That's because some researchers went and did verification on REPORTED deaths, found some evidence that it had nothing to do with the vaccine, and then had the data removed from VAERS.
This would happen because doctors are compelled to use VAERS for anything happening within the vaccination window.
So if a 72 year old alcoholic dies from liver failure a month after getting the vaccine, the doctor could be compelled to add that data to the VAERS system as potentially vaccine-related death, even though it's almost certainly not. Then proper investigators look into that death and say, no, this dude died because he was alcoholic and old and his liver quit. Then the death is removed from the VAERS database. This is probably done in bunches.
If you assume (wrongly) that the VAERS data is representing deaths from the vaccine, this would look suspicious. If you realize that these are REPORTED deaths due to the vaccine, even by regular people who don't really know, even by doctors who know it was something else, then this doesn't look nearly as suspicious.
It's important for the researchers here to have a good understanding of how these sources work and where the numbers they're using actually come from. Whether it's VAERS or any other system.
Odd that they aren't making that a bit clearer don't you think? Like providing an explanation for these things might help turn 'anti-vacs' people to the jab. However, they distance themselves from this data, even refusing FOIA requests on things in the UK and generally being dicks.
If trust is necessary and informed consent law, why wouldn't they go out of their way to disprove these things now the databases are common knowledge? Why the silence? They've no moral objection to denying things dishonestly. There's lots of headlines in alternative press, none in the MSM. They are likely hiding vacs deaths, they've treated it the same as everything else they hide.
They make it pretty clear on the website. They have an entire guide on how to interpret the data.
https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/dataguide.html
They provide the explanation pretty clearly. Failure to understand what this data is or how to use it is the fault of the individual researcher, not the people running VAERS. The government wasn’t directing the public to use this database to monitor COVID. They just opened it up so researchers could use the data to monitor trends in real-time.
But any death within 28 days of a covid test is from covid though, right? According to their data that is.
Why not the same approach with using this data? We've no hope of finding out what happened, so our only chance is to use the data available to try and draw some conclusions. Seeing as TPTB have decided they are not doing things according to any recognised rulebook we are left with being able to present their nonsensical data as it is. Nothing about this whole situation is perfect, so working with numbers from official sources the sheep recognise is about the only recourse.
P.S. IIRC the guy doing the assessment on VAERS said the deaths had been replaced with lesser reactions, not erased. Sounds sus.