I certainly won't be making friends with this post and I am sure a few mods will at the very least hover over that ban button. Oh well. The point is to have an honest discussion and sometimes that means hurting feelings.
Going based off what we know for sure with actual irrefutable evidences it appears we are just caught up in a power grab. If "Patriots are in Control" then at this point they are complicit in the suffering of Americans. Yes I am familiar with the excuses a lot of you have made to me in good faith, that we need to be patient that there's more going on that we can understand and so forth. Do not misunderstand. I am and always will be open to an explanation. If they came out tomorrow and restored the Republic I would absolutely want to know and given such an explanation I might even forgive them for taking as long as they did. Until such time, we can only go based off what we can observe and what we can observe up to this point suggests that either Q isn't in as much control as they wanted us to believe or they are just another faction vying for power and what we are seeing is the result of a covert civil war. The end result may be to our benefit in the end, but if you study history close enough, you realize that there were no heroes in the first Civil War except the soldiers who fought on the battlefield. Lincoln overstepped his seat and set a bad precedent of which we are reaping the results and the South was almost completely justified in their Rebellion except they had to make it about slavery. Point being, if this is a covert civil war Q isn't particularly a good guy, especially now. To Q's credit they seek to enlighten instead of control, however the longer this goes and the longer they do nothing, the more complicit they become.
Stop telling me this is a movie. Four dollars a fucking gallon for gas is not a movie. The Afghan suffering is not a movie. Supply shortages and inflation are not fucking movie props. This isn't a movie, it's real fucking life and we need to stop waiting for the "movie" to end and start writing our own conclusion.
Yes I have read and studied Devolution. It's an interesting read, but as I said at this point, going off of it, the military is becoming complicit and derelict in their duties if they are continuing to let things "play out".
I've said this in previous posts and I will say it again, it's time to mobilize and take our country back. Yes, we need to fix 2020. I am not saying let up on that, quite the opposite. What I am saying is it's time to put down the Hopium pipe for good and start working to save ourselves. No secret force is coming in to save the day. If anything, they're just as out of control as we are. But, thankfully, the Fed bois don't have control either. The reality is also, there are over 100 million pissed off Americans and both sides are trying to seize control without setting off that keg. If this is a controlled demolition of the establishment and there really was no other way, I get it. But how many more people have to senselessly die? How many more have to suffer? If they are in control and are continuing to do nothing, they are complicit. More likely they are struggling to regain control.
At this point we can rule out MAGA as being an exposure movement. That would require so many steps and pieces to carry out it's impossible. Remember, the enemy is just as uncoordinated. They don't know what the hell they're doing either- I mean they couldn't keep their official 9/11 narrative together. So we can confidently say that they are struggling to sway public opinion to accept their cheat. And of course in the process just making their case even worse as they go along. But as much fun as it is to watch them struggle, it is not worth paying a gagillion dollars for prescription meds or watch diabetics struggle again to get their insulin.
We need to break control of the system. Regardless of who is in power, at no point should we ever walk away from an election freaking the fuck out. Mobilizing and getting involved in local government and education is a good first step. Another to take is to break our dependency to society. This starts by shifting to be a bit more agrarian and growing and supplying our own food. If you have at least half an acre, you can and should start growing your own vegetables to supplement your grocery needs. You won't be able to sever right away unless you stock up on storable food, something we all should be doing anyway.
Next comes energy independence. Solar actually is a good route for this especially if you have lots of sunlight year round where you live. But honestly any and all utilities you can start shifting off company dependence the better. If your state has oil, start hounding your governors to begin supplying your state directly. We don't need to the Federal Government's permission to supply our own oil- hell we don't need it to do anything. Point is WE can start taking action to ending out dependency on their system and it's long past time we did.
I will conclude with what I have been promoting and that is to never give up on your friends and family. Those in power, even those we might agree with, fear this the most. I find it interesting that Trump nor Q themselves have ever stated anything about talking to your neighbors and enlightening them with the ideals of freedom. Trump himself has had views such as "take guns first, due process second" that cause me not to trust him. The thing is, we need to kill our love affair with politicians, including Trump. Stop falling for their bullshit and more importantly, stop re-electing them. I want people in places of power who literally are regular joes with no political background. I don't care if they look funny, have a stupid name or talk silly. Those things do NOT matter when it comes to being able to do the job and really the job should be simple maintenance. Not a rollout of new laws no one fucking asked for. And if they did, major laws need to be voted on by the people. I do not care if it will "slow things down" that's the point. Fast government is tyranny.
If you made it here, thank you for taking the time. As nice as "the plan" would be at this point I think we're the plan and it's gonna require work. I am still hoping for the best outcome. Experience has taught me to expect the worst and as things continue with no real action or any definitive sign of who controls what, it looks more and more like we're caught up in a total cluster fuck with too many hands on the wheel. I hope I'm wrong. I hope all you Q diehards get to have your day to gloat. I want to read your "I told you so" posts and comment "yep". Unfortunately what I want and reality may not align... for now we focus on getting involved locally and cutting dependence on society. God bless and protect you in these fuckin weird times.
The thing that gets me out of bed each day with a halfway decent attitude is the thought that there is a plan and it will eventually work in our favor. I can’t let myself believe that there is no plan or that the Q plan failed. Yet, I don’t buy in to the theory that the clintons are dead or that China joe is really Jim Carrey in a mask. I know deep down those things aren’t true. Shit is happening all around us and I agree that collectively we’ve crossed a line from waking up the normies to real fucking life. And things aren’t looking so good right now. And honestly, seeing it in writing by a fellow pede makes my fears all the more real. For as much as the normies like to sleepwalk about their day, I too feel like my head is in the sand waiting and praying for this nightmare to end. There’s only so many goalposts you can move before you wonder where the fuck all this ends. I still have faith. It’s darkest before the dawn.
Having faith is fine. I want the same outcome.
Look at it like this: We say "God wins" a lot here and based on the Bible's ending, that would be true if you don't doubt the prophecy.
Rationally speaking, even if you undoubtedly believe that God wins, God hasn't won yet. It isn't official until it happens. Some would argue with God existing outside of time that it already has happened. I argue that we exist in the here and now and that He would more likely want us to fight as though He could possibly lose. If He didn't, then there is no reason to do anything. Why bother living your life at all if God wins and nothing you do changes that?
Or maybe something you do does? Maybe in fact you do matter and thus while we're locked in this linear existence we need to fight as though God doesn't win.
Some concept applies here. Even if it turns out the super secret super squad is real, we sill need to fight like it isn't. We still need to organize on the ground get the evil and/or do nothings out of power then we need to keep them out. Just because "Nothing can stop what's coming" does not mean that it's been set in motion or that it will succeed and at this point, we're what's coming. Let's start moving.
Then WHAT are you fucking doing with this title ?!
I am repeating from months: have a backup plan,have a backup plan. I was once almost banned like a shill because people were angry because of that and other things. Writting things exactly like this.
But in fact I never titled it:
Why ? Why I don't use such looking titles ? To not get banned or to not cause panic,to not cause other anons morale being broken ?
You know how many times and from how many sites I got banned for spreading things I believed even before Q ? Some anons doing work probably got already more,but if I would be banned I would just create new account.And again etc.
How many people would get hurt,I cannot stand it oh,oh,oh no,oh no...
Yes,it is scary and terrible. Panicking wouldn't help anybody however.Got it ? If you have time to worry so much you probably have too much time. Do something constructive or get rest. Concentrate on things you can do,you can change. I know what you are feeling. We are all feeling it probably.It is painful,yes.
But what we feel not matters.Result of our actions will matter.
"Courage" is mostly illusion seen from outside fren. Everybody have doubts. Everybody have fears. It is all how we would deal with our doubts and fears.
Having backup plan is thing I was calling from months. I see many of you are breaking now.Predictable.Because I am anon like you I cannot assure you fren. I would like to do this.Somebody shall really do this (but we are not researching too much and probably there are more important things than keeping our morale up in this fight now). I cannot assure even myself. But not cross Q my fren.Not cross military.Not yet. We were promised many times : "the best hat yet to come".
Act as there would be no Q - but without violence (at least now).But believe there is a chance we are not alone. If we would - we will have to fight for our freedom around the world with holy fury. But today is still not this day. Have hope. Even if there wouldn't be Q at all - panic wouldn't save you.
Believe me, I've been having similar thoughts. I still believe there is a lot more to this, and I'm doing everything I can to help the cause, but the reality is that no one knows. The longer you follow these things, the more confirmation bias takes effect. It's not a movie. The southern border really is wide open. I am about to lose my dream job because of a mandated vax. I just retired from the military, and I've been spending the last 20 years in and out of Afghanistan. What's happening there is real. I know for a fact. Obviously I can't post any sauce or sources, but when I see so many people posting things that I personally KNOW is false, it makes me less inclined to believe anything else. Regardless of what the patriot team is really planning, they are deceiving all of us just as much as the DS, We just trust that it's for a good cause.....
And we need to stop trusting them. Government exists to govern. Never to be trusted. Even if the "movie" ends with a happy and mostly anti-climactic ending, we cannot ever go back to the way things were. All three letter bois are gone. Never again. Intelligence agencies can only exist in a defensive capacity, but even then must be under heavy scrutiny. Not showing your hand is not the same as lying. A clear distinction needs to be made going forward.
Couldn't agree more.
Great point! I agree, and I'll go further:
"That government is best, which governs not at all." ~ Henry David Thoreau, in Civil Disobedience
Everyone seems to think that's "too radical."
It isn't. Civil behavior is the only way to have a civil society -- and COERCION [initiated coercion, not defensive] is not civil. Yet coercion is the true defining characteristic of government. Even the funding for government programs is coercive; surely you've noticed.
Do you initiate coercion with the people you encounter daily? Do you PUT UP with initiated coercion in your daily life (except with government, where there's no choice)?
We all expect civility and consensual arrangements in daily life, including in business.
Government wrecks that. Corporatism, for example, is only possible because of government.
America became a shining light to the world BECAUSE WE LIMITED GOVERNMENT SEVERELY compared to other nations. We were FREE because our government was LIMITED to, for the most part, protecting our rights. On paper, anyway.
We didn't go far enough, and THAT is why we're in this mess now.
I'm an abolitionist. After Trump gets things back to something resembling sanity [have a little hopium on me, fren], I'm, er, hoping for a Great Reset of a different sort: Get rid of all the drek that we've added to the FedGov since the beginning, and then start trimming from there as we can.
The goal is for everything, including national security, to be funded and run privately. NO taxes, none: if Americans aren't willing to pay for something voluntarily, it shouldn't be done. Seriously: look around at what our tax money has been funding. War after war. Poorly designed nuke plants contaminating the Earth using plutonium and uranium instead of thorium so we could make enough bombs to end Mankind many times over. Huge federal police and spy agencies crushing our freedom and creating massive criminal empires. Over a trillion dollars spent on a welfare state that has primarily caused entire generations to be raised without fathers in the home, generating misery and crime and dependency. The "Federal Reserve" and the Income Tax have stolen trillions of dollars from Americans since 1913 and nearly all of it has been used to wreck this country and to harm other places around the globe.
Does any sane person really want ANY of that?
Yes, it would take time to create the structures and institutions necessary to do what DOES need doing. No, it won't work unless/until most people are sane, responsible, and have some sense of connection to their fellow human beings. But love and freedom go together; they NEED each other. Love and freedom are co-dependent and mutually supportive. You really can't have one for long without the other, and the damage starts the moment you allow coercion into the picture.
Mel Gibson voice: FREEDOM!
It’s okay Going. Many of us have similar ideas and thoughts. And you are questioning and frustrated. Your aren’t watching a movie. But what you are seeing on Lamestream Media is a controlled narrative of events either blown out of proportion, or not expanded to the whole truth. On this real Afghanistan event, I think it is a huge event that the Cabal is trying to shrink. But the Patriots are pouring out the intel for the news, and the Cabal can’t contain this huge fuck up! We can discuss what Q or X22Report means by a movie later, because Afghanistan is terrible to use all.
On Q. Q is not a person per say. Q is possibly a group of military intelligence giving strong probabilities in those Q-drops. Or, and what I think listening to Juan (17) carefully, Q is a Quantum Computer that has spit out 4954 of the best future probabilities laid out over a near 4 year period. And then as we move forward, certain Q-drops or parts in them become true, hence Future Proves Past. So from these probabilities the White Hats or COG Team (Continuity of Government) decides how to counter the Cabal as best they can, while also letting them openly fuck up, to arrest them all! My 3rd theory is further out. I’ll save that for another time.
But in the end, soon per sometime right after the Q-Clock’s final date, Check Mate is reached and we, the Patriots/good guys win for all of humanity. The whole world. So please have faith and trust in God that we will win. I hope this helps some my friend. God bless everyone troops and civilians harmed or killed today. And God bless all of their families.
The evidence for a plan is significant.
Trump running and winning was phenomenal. He beat Hillary, which should not have happened. He beat the media and he beat the GOP. How?
Trump's speeches were right on the money. Who else ever talked about the swamp like that IN FRONT OF THE SWAMP? He called them out and said they were working for themselves and betraying the people for money to their faces.
He was under attack 24/7/365 for his first term, and still is. Why? I submit to you that if there is no plan they wouldn't fear him. He would be a lone wolf and they would ignore him.
The deep state, which moves like a glacier, taking decades to act, is now acting in days, weeks and months. As if there might not be a tomorrow. Why? They have the WH. Why not just relax, play nice and go back to slow and steady? It would appear that they don't think they have time to do that. Why?
Trump focused a great deal on the 2020 election writing several EOs to deal with EXACTLY what ended up happening.
The Q drops link convincingly to the Law of War Manual where devolution is described. Trump has already called on China to make reparations and Biden to resign, which is exactly what the Manual says must be done on the way to the final step.. Giving people the chance to do the right thing has been a Trump practice.
Knowing Trump, would he have gone into this wo a plan, planning to wing it, without knowing he ALREADY had the winning hand? This is very serious for him. He's dealing with people who will kill him and all of his family if they can.
I don't know what COCOMs is waiting for. If we knew perhaps it would make perfect sense. I DO think they are very close to crossing the line and becoming the bad guys if they let this continue. Too much shedding of innocent blood. Guilt is accruing.
Not saying there isn't a plan... but the plan or rather plans may have failed... or didn't complete.
I don't know. I won't pretend to know. I can only go off what we're able to see. And even that can't be trusted.
I gave up pretending to know the Will of God only a few years ago. What a freeing experience. I also gave up my judgement of others- or at least I am trying to. It's hard. My point is, I pretty much agree with and support your position.
That said, I would like to challenge you to study the teachings of Christ. Just His words spoken in Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. If you can find something bad in His Words and prove it's bad and detrimental to humanity, I will give up my faith. To be clear, not something interpreted that led to a bad thing, not Paul's interpretations, just Jesus.
At the very LEAST if you live only by what He said as best you can understand, I promise you will live a full and happy life.
Most of the things you're egging us on to do WE'VE ALREADY STARTED DOING. You're preaching to the choir here, the amount just sitting on their ass doing nothing but "watching the movie" as not the majority at this point. You bring up a lot of good points but nothing that's new to this board, I've seen them discussed multiple times for the last several months.
Personally I think we always were part of the plan but perhaps we did get too complacent hence the kicks in the rear from Flynn to get active after January. Speaking of January, part of me has suspected for a while now that the original plan might have gone wrong in some way or Q got outmaneuvered and we're now on a contingency plan which needs more activity from the public to pull off.
I pretty much agree with your stance. I still see too much praise and call for patience, though. But you are right. People are mobilizing. This post is not meant to diminish that in any way. If anything it serves as a motivational "KEEP GOING" post for people like you to smile at, knowing you're already doing what needs to be done.
Well things definitely are hotter now, all but the dumbest frogs are noticing that the pot has suddenly started boiling when before the heat was taking decades to increase. It's been only several months but it feels like a whole damn 4-year term has gone by already.
It’s good that people are finally willing to talk about this here. People need to prepare. Game of Thrones is happening and we are all caught up in it. Prepare for the worst. Make sure you have lots of extra food and a way to purify water. Radiation pills. Really. No one knows where this could go next, but Q has done everything they can. The Great Awakening is very real and it has happened. God Speed to us all. We are our only hope at this point and we need to accept that if we even hope to have a chance of winning.
No one saved the Davidians or the Weavers... but some did come to help Cliven Bundy... so... maybe there's a chance... there always is hope.
This should be a permanent sticky, but this board can't handle truth.
I'm not that new and they're not wrong.
I whole heatedly agree with your post.
This is up to US to fix.
But getting involved in local politics is only part of the solution. The other tpart is we need to be out in the streets. Every one of us. There's enough if us here on this board of o get organized and get our communities involved. In just a relative short period of time, we could have hundreds of thousands, if not MILLIONS, of people protesting everywhere. We shut the govts down by taking our power back. We take ourt power back by refusing to acknowledge [their] "legitimacy." And we do that through civil disobedience, which is, first and foremost carried out through larg, widespread, massive protests. Protests with total crowd numbers in the millions. Numbers not seen since the Civil Rights Movement, if ever.
That, along with running for local elections guarantees our success and continued survival as a society. The rest of the World is looking at us and scratching their heads, pounding ondwring what we're doing. They fly OUR Flag right alongside theirs, not just in solidarity, but because they look to US as the shining beacon of what was once right and just in this world. OUR country and OUR Constitution are the example and embodiment of what a society should be, and we're squandering it, watching it waste away and be destroyed. All while two separate forms of control battle it out for supremacy?! Waiting for a "savior" of a man to come save us, when and while we still have the power to save ourselves?!
We HAVE to take to the streets soon, to SHOW the PEOPLE of this world that we haven't checked out, that we haven't given up, and that WE are ready to take up the mantle of leadership the rest of the World is begging for us to take. WE HAVE TO. There is no other option left any longer. That much is clear to me now. We've wasted too much valuable and precious time. Waiting longer only adds to the problem and will take more time to fix.
I don't watch TV. I get a decent chunk of info from this site and if you have to know, my other sources are Epoch Times, One America News, Patriots.win and a bit of Infowars. On off with Ken Matthews, Joe Paggs, James Corbett and that's about it. If you have any non-sensationalist sources I should add, please let me know.
To the rest of it, my personal life had been bogged down by the increased prices in everything. Unless we start as a community trading in something else we're stuck until the dollar collapses. We took the face diaper off last year.
I keep hearing more and more about "devolution" in relation to the Trump or Q story but not sure what it means.
Dictionary.com says it means "the transfer of power or authority from a central government to a local government." I have seen exactly this happen in countries and it was in fact then generally called devolution.
What does it mean on this site? Are Americans working to delete their federal government and leave everything to the states?
Go back to patriots.win. This is a Q site.
Have you been to patriots.win? Do you know what happens to you over there if you post something that isn't 100% undeniably pro-Trump? I think you're scared of the truth because you're not the type of person who is going to stand up when the chips are down.
The Hero worship needed to end after the 2018 mid-term. But we still slept.
Both of you can go fuck yourselves.
Who the fuck goes to a Q site and disparages the people here?
"I think you're scared of the truth because you're not the type of person who is going to stand up when the chips are down."
You don't know a damn thing about me or anyone else here for that matter. I have seen the proofs AKA "fancy internet tricks" and I have reason to believe that there is a plan. I love hearing keyboard warriors ranting about how tough they are. I might not do so well, but I don't see what makes you so damn sure about your own odds. Let's see how you fare when the chips are down, champ.
If disparagement is your conclusion then you need to put the hopium pipe down five days ago.
Stop blindly trusting a letter that pulled off some fancy internet tricks and betting your life on it coming though for you.
This is a patriot site with lots of God fearing patriots motivated to fix the country. We need to be directing that motivation into action not content refreshes for hopium fixes.