This past week, the amount of dooming going on has been insane as of late... and I believe there are lot of shill accounts and sleeper agents coming to life in order break this movement. I consider myself a pretty decent shill hunter here, and I wish to help everybody to try to identify agents of ill intent .
There is a difference between saying somebody is criticizing what is happening, which real patriots do, and then there are those who are undermining what the movement. Both look similar, but they are NOT the same. Times are dark, but patriots are still patriots. Read their past comments. Understand their goals... and shut down shillish behavior before it derails this forum.
Do not be fooled. They are smart, and some have been around a long time. Here are some of the signs to look for:
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Saying the quiet part out loud: deep down, every patriot here understands that the entire movement... could be a farce. Could be a psyop. Could be a lie. It doesn't need to be said out loud since it is ingrained in this movement. People who are looking to demoralize will quietly bring this up in discussion. There is nothing wrong with criticizing decisions, but those who cast doubt on the movement for doubt's sake are glowsticks. Some of these examples are quite blatant, but the smart ones sow doubt. Here are a few examples:
- Q isn't real.
- Trump is not in control. He made a mistake with the poke by praising it. He is compromised by fake allies. Ect...
- Any black pilling the movement to demoralize and not as a joke. AKA embracing the honk.
- Nothing ever happens, when clearly things are happening.
- Derailing a conversation for no discernible reason other than to change the subject or sow doubt.
- Distraction posts.
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Anybody who deals in absolutes. This falls into the extremes, and glowsticks who hide behind beliefs and do not compromise. This one is tricky to understand, because a lot of these folks seem legit, at first. Every real patriot here is not looking to subjugate the left or blue-pilled folks... they are looking to save them and red-pill them. The tyrants in control are looking to dominate and control folks. Patriots would rather be able to discuss points with non-like-minded folks rather than shout them down. Here are a few examples:
- People who deal in violence, which is the only way. No patriot here wants to shed a drop of blood even of the Antifa scum. That is the LAST resort, full-stop.
- Intolerance of any kind. You are not allowed in here if you don't share our beliefs. I'm more centrist than many here and I certainly don't agree with everybody. But I want the same goal. Anybody who wishes to ban you for not agreeing with you falls in this category.
- Extremism: anybody who says follow the philosophy or burn. This mainly deals with religious types or absolutists... but you don't need to have stepped one foot in a church to call somebody evil for not agreeing. If you say "you are evil" for not agreeing with me with no logic other than the statement: thats a tell. Religions are welcomed here, the type that preach compassion. Folks that are willing to cast a net on anybody who doesn't agree with their personal philosophy are not that. Patriots do NOT court HATE. Patriots are not so intolerant they exclude. Those who do these things are no better than the enemy who looks to 'cancel' folks on the left
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Poisoning the well: anything off topic, and that will serve to make us look out illegitimate. This can be anything: from discussion of off-topic ideas to unverifiable conspiracy theories. This site is about Q, and connections that they made to a global plan to subjugate the world's population. Things that are real and tangible. A few examples:
- Tin-foil-hat conspiracies: This isn't what this site is about. These subjects only serve to turn-off interested folks and de-legitimize actual theories of this site by association. This includes lizard people, alien cabals, and thaumaturgical discussion.
- Pseudo-science: we question science. But folks who believe these ideas are just as dogmatic as the left is with vaccines and their high priest Fauci. This goes into naturalist studies, Flat-Earthers, and other pseudo sciences. You could include thaumatology here as well. The evidence doesn't matter, this isn't a discussion forum for it, and you guys won't capitulate if defeated in a rational debate, usually stating it's on us to prove them wrong (and it's not). Dogmatic beliefs in this sort of thinking can be compared to extremism.
- Theories without proof: aka ideas without sauce. You want to bring up an idea or theory? Bring the data. Without data you're just another voice polluting the well as you are directing folks from discussing a legit topic. The end goal with these people is to get folks on their side of an idea, which is antithetical to the mission as a whole: we aren't here to do your work. You want to contribute, get out there and find the sauce. Please note, this is not the same as a researchers wanted post. The purpose of those posts are to work together to find data to prove the point, not to steer away folks from another subject at hand.
This is just a bit of what is out there. The worst agents look and act just like us. Don't be fooled, and certainly don't point fingers because you don't agree with something. But if it doesn't smell right start researching them before you point a finger at them. The last thing we want this forum is to become a place of fear: a place where you will be banned for not towing the line.
I have a different point of view about Q, Trump and the White Hats.
Do we really expect some type of "cult" mindset here?
I am just asking.
What you said is this exact point I am trying to make. Not everybody agrees with Q or the methods of their points. You bringing up topics of discussion to make people see a different frame of mind is the exact discussions we should be promoting here.
My fear, and its the fear of many, is that right now the amount of dooming on this forum is at an all time high. Sharks smell blood in the water, and they are coming out to feed. We need to be vigilant to identify and stop bad-actors from trashing the forum.
I hear you.
The way I see it. When someone is dooming.
That's the perfect opportunity to debate them logically. I guess I am different.
I see it as an opportunity to debate shills. Shills are trying to mentally destroy our minds.
Debating them logically shows we have discipline that we follow. That they can't break up simply by posting bad news.
I am PRO Q.
Just in a DIFFERENT way than you.
That is what makes you a patriot.
I do support Q.
I explained how and why I support it in another thread.
Why don't you go ahead link that for us right here, then.
I read that post earlier, appreciate and agree with your points about q being more about throwing the deep state off, things like putting them on edge to expend ammo and stuff like that, but especially the grassroots awakening you mentioned which is currently leading to Patriots getting more involved in local politics like school boards.
I also believe that suicide weekend wasn’t just bluffing, is a real thing that is coming, and that we are going to love how all of this ends.
Agreed...
I think I piss some people off. Because they are "waiting" for someone to come and save us.
That's where I see the whole Q movement differently.
It's time for us ALL to "WAKE THE HELL UP".
Which means we need to get involved more than we have before.
I am a software engineer. That's my strong point. I am fighting the war as a digital soilder.
Because it is an info war.
Do I hope Trump has some master plan? Sure.. that would be awesome.
But in reality.
We need US to keep growing and to become a loud voice.
The left is actually very small. The thing about them.
They have a very LOUD voice. Which makes them bigger then they are.
It's time for us to get louder.