This past week, the amount of dooming going on has been insane as of late... and I believe there are lot of shill accounts and sleeper agents coming to life in order break this movement. I consider myself a pretty decent shill hunter here, and I wish to help everybody to try to identify agents of ill intent .
There is a difference between saying somebody is criticizing what is happening, which real patriots do, and then there are those who are undermining what the movement. Both look similar, but they are NOT the same. Times are dark, but patriots are still patriots. Read their past comments. Understand their goals... and shut down shillish behavior before it derails this forum.
Do not be fooled. They are smart, and some have been around a long time. Here are some of the signs to look for:
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Saying the quiet part out loud: deep down, every patriot here understands that the entire movement... could be a farce. Could be a psyop. Could be a lie. It doesn't need to be said out loud since it is ingrained in this movement. People who are looking to demoralize will quietly bring this up in discussion. There is nothing wrong with criticizing decisions, but those who cast doubt on the movement for doubt's sake are glowsticks. Some of these examples are quite blatant, but the smart ones sow doubt. Here are a few examples:
- Q isn't real.
- Trump is not in control. He made a mistake with the poke by praising it. He is compromised by fake allies. Ect...
- Any black pilling the movement to demoralize and not as a joke. AKA embracing the honk.
- Nothing ever happens, when clearly things are happening.
- Derailing a conversation for no discernible reason other than to change the subject or sow doubt.
- Distraction posts.
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Anybody who deals in absolutes. This falls into the extremes, and glowsticks who hide behind beliefs and do not compromise. This one is tricky to understand, because a lot of these folks seem legit, at first. Every real patriot here is not looking to subjugate the left or blue-pilled folks... they are looking to save them and red-pill them. The tyrants in control are looking to dominate and control folks. Patriots would rather be able to discuss points with non-like-minded folks rather than shout them down. Here are a few examples:
- People who deal in violence, which is the only way. No patriot here wants to shed a drop of blood even of the Antifa scum. That is the LAST resort, full-stop.
- Intolerance of any kind. You are not allowed in here if you don't share our beliefs. I'm more centrist than many here and I certainly don't agree with everybody. But I want the same goal. Anybody who wishes to ban you for not agreeing with you falls in this category.
- Extremism: anybody who says follow the philosophy or burn. This mainly deals with religious types or absolutists... but you don't need to have stepped one foot in a church to call somebody evil for not agreeing. If you say "you are evil" for not agreeing with me with no logic other than the statement: thats a tell. Religions are welcomed here, the type that preach compassion. Folks that are willing to cast a net on anybody who doesn't agree with their personal philosophy are not that. Patriots do NOT court HATE. Patriots are not so intolerant they exclude. Those who do these things are no better than the enemy who looks to 'cancel' folks on the left
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Poisoning the well: anything off topic, and that will serve to make us look out illegitimate. This can be anything: from discussion of off-topic ideas to unverifiable conspiracy theories. This site is about Q, and connections that they made to a global plan to subjugate the world's population. Things that are real and tangible. A few examples:
- Tin-foil-hat conspiracies: This isn't what this site is about. These subjects only serve to turn-off interested folks and de-legitimize actual theories of this site by association. This includes lizard people, alien cabals, and thaumaturgical discussion.
- Pseudo-science: we question science. But folks who believe these ideas are just as dogmatic as the left is with vaccines and their high priest Fauci. This goes into naturalist studies, Flat-Earthers, and other pseudo sciences. You could include thaumatology here as well. The evidence doesn't matter, this isn't a discussion forum for it, and you guys won't capitulate if defeated in a rational debate, usually stating it's on us to prove them wrong (and it's not). Dogmatic beliefs in this sort of thinking can be compared to extremism.
- Theories without proof: aka ideas without sauce. You want to bring up an idea or theory? Bring the data. Without data you're just another voice polluting the well as you are directing folks from discussing a legit topic. The end goal with these people is to get folks on their side of an idea, which is antithetical to the mission as a whole: we aren't here to do your work. You want to contribute, get out there and find the sauce. Please note, this is not the same as a researchers wanted post. The purpose of those posts are to work together to find data to prove the point, not to steer away folks from another subject at hand.
This is just a bit of what is out there. The worst agents look and act just like us. Don't be fooled, and certainly don't point fingers because you don't agree with something. But if it doesn't smell right start researching them before you point a finger at them. The last thing we want this forum is to become a place of fear: a place where you will be banned for not towing the line.
My understanding is that most of the equipment that the Taliban "stole" from us was actually stolen from the Afghan army, who abandoned it. They weren't technically our Humvees, they were the Afghan army's Humvees that we had equipped them with.
When the Afghan army fled, they left behind US-made equipment, not US equipment.
So I guess we could have taken them back before we left, but then we would have the optics of leaving the Afghan army defenseless and the Taliban's inevitable takeover would have looked like our fault.
Not sure what source you'd find convincing, but I'd be interested in reading yours.
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/planes-guns-night-vision-goggles-talibans-new-us-made-war-chest-2021-08-19/
The Taliban's takeover already looks like our fault lol. You think we left behind 100 billion in vehicles, weapons, and piles of cash just for the optics of "it's not our fault?" That ridiculous.
I think we didn't leave behind stuff so much as that we didn't take it back from the Afghan army and they surrendered it.
And pretty much everyone with a brain has predicted for two decades that the Taliban would retake the country pretty quickly after we left. It would have happened under Trump if he had committed to us leaving. It happened under Biden. I think that would have happened regardless.
But disarming the Afghan army beforehand would have been crucified on this board. Instead, we didn't do that, and now the Taliban has equipment we gave the Afghan army. That was always going to be a no-win situation for whichever President was brave enough to actually follow through getting us out of there.
So let me get this straight. You agree that the US military knew the Taliban was going to take over immediately. Knowing this, they still let the Taliban acquire all this equipment, but not as a way to undermine Biden, as a kind of good optics?
How in the world is arming a group that 90% of the country thinks are terrorists good optics in any way?
It's beyond obvious at this point that the powers that be are setting up fall guys like Biden and who knows who else to unite the populace.
Did you fall for the covid hoax too? Wear a mask, lockdowns, get vaccinated? All that stuff?
I'm saying that despite knowing the Taliban was going to take back over, we had two choices:
We disarm the Afghan army from all the equipment we gave/sold them. No more cool guns, no more cool vehicles, etc. The Taliban rolls through, the unarmed Afghan army folds, and the US gets blamed for just giving the country back to the Taliban and abandoning our allies by leaving them defensless.
We accept that the stuff we gave the Afghan army belongs to them. We cross our fingers that they will actually use it against the Taliban. They don't use it against the Taliban and flee instead. The Taliban gets some cool guns.
We chose not to rob them of the equipment we gave them in hopes that they'd actually at least TRY to hold out against the Taliban, since that was the entire point of being there: to train and equip the Afghan army to defend against the Taliban.
That didn't happen. But we gave them the chance.
If we had taken back our equipment (which, again, actually belonged to the Afghan army), and the Taliban took back over, then this board would 100% be attacking the Biden administration for leaving our allies defenseless and claiming that the Taliban taking over was Biden's fault since he disarmed them.
Like I said, it's a no-win situation. But you can imagine how much trust we'd have from our future allies if we just took back all our equipment that we give them any time we suspect they might lose the fight.