This past week, the amount of dooming going on has been insane as of late... and I believe there are lot of shill accounts and sleeper agents coming to life in order break this movement. I consider myself a pretty decent shill hunter here, and I wish to help everybody to try to identify agents of ill intent .
There is a difference between saying somebody is criticizing what is happening, which real patriots do, and then there are those who are undermining what the movement. Both look similar, but they are NOT the same. Times are dark, but patriots are still patriots. Read their past comments. Understand their goals... and shut down shillish behavior before it derails this forum.
Do not be fooled. They are smart, and some have been around a long time. Here are some of the signs to look for:
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Saying the quiet part out loud: deep down, every patriot here understands that the entire movement... could be a farce. Could be a psyop. Could be a lie. It doesn't need to be said out loud since it is ingrained in this movement. People who are looking to demoralize will quietly bring this up in discussion. There is nothing wrong with criticizing decisions, but those who cast doubt on the movement for doubt's sake are glowsticks. Some of these examples are quite blatant, but the smart ones sow doubt. Here are a few examples:
- Q isn't real.
- Trump is not in control. He made a mistake with the poke by praising it. He is compromised by fake allies. Ect...
- Any black pilling the movement to demoralize and not as a joke. AKA embracing the honk.
- Nothing ever happens, when clearly things are happening.
- Derailing a conversation for no discernible reason other than to change the subject or sow doubt.
- Distraction posts.
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Anybody who deals in absolutes. This falls into the extremes, and glowsticks who hide behind beliefs and do not compromise. This one is tricky to understand, because a lot of these folks seem legit, at first. Every real patriot here is not looking to subjugate the left or blue-pilled folks... they are looking to save them and red-pill them. The tyrants in control are looking to dominate and control folks. Patriots would rather be able to discuss points with non-like-minded folks rather than shout them down. Here are a few examples:
- People who deal in violence, which is the only way. No patriot here wants to shed a drop of blood even of the Antifa scum. That is the LAST resort, full-stop.
- Intolerance of any kind. You are not allowed in here if you don't share our beliefs. I'm more centrist than many here and I certainly don't agree with everybody. But I want the same goal. Anybody who wishes to ban you for not agreeing with you falls in this category.
- Extremism: anybody who says follow the philosophy or burn. This mainly deals with religious types or absolutists... but you don't need to have stepped one foot in a church to call somebody evil for not agreeing. If you say "you are evil" for not agreeing with me with no logic other than the statement: thats a tell. Religions are welcomed here, the type that preach compassion. Folks that are willing to cast a net on anybody who doesn't agree with their personal philosophy are not that. Patriots do NOT court HATE. Patriots are not so intolerant they exclude. Those who do these things are no better than the enemy who looks to 'cancel' folks on the left
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Poisoning the well: anything off topic, and that will serve to make us look out illegitimate. This can be anything: from discussion of off-topic ideas to unverifiable conspiracy theories. This site is about Q, and connections that they made to a global plan to subjugate the world's population. Things that are real and tangible. A few examples:
- Tin-foil-hat conspiracies: This isn't what this site is about. These subjects only serve to turn-off interested folks and de-legitimize actual theories of this site by association. This includes lizard people, alien cabals, and thaumaturgical discussion.
- Pseudo-science: we question science. But folks who believe these ideas are just as dogmatic as the left is with vaccines and their high priest Fauci. This goes into naturalist studies, Flat-Earthers, and other pseudo sciences. You could include thaumatology here as well. The evidence doesn't matter, this isn't a discussion forum for it, and you guys won't capitulate if defeated in a rational debate, usually stating it's on us to prove them wrong (and it's not). Dogmatic beliefs in this sort of thinking can be compared to extremism.
- Theories without proof: aka ideas without sauce. You want to bring up an idea or theory? Bring the data. Without data you're just another voice polluting the well as you are directing folks from discussing a legit topic. The end goal with these people is to get folks on their side of an idea, which is antithetical to the mission as a whole: we aren't here to do your work. You want to contribute, get out there and find the sauce. Please note, this is not the same as a researchers wanted post. The purpose of those posts are to work together to find data to prove the point, not to steer away folks from another subject at hand.
This is just a bit of what is out there. The worst agents look and act just like us. Don't be fooled, and certainly don't point fingers because you don't agree with something. But if it doesn't smell right start researching them before you point a finger at them. The last thing we want this forum is to become a place of fear: a place where you will be banned for not towing the line.
We'll see. I just don't know who could have done things any differently here.
If Trump had committed to pulling out of Afghanistan, he would have been faced with exactly the same choice: either give the impression that the US will disarm our allies whenever we lose interest in them, or risk the possibility of the Afghan army turning over US-made equipment if they surrender.
This would have been Trump's problem should 2020 have gone differently.
My take: it doesn't matter who was in office. Biden, Trump, Obama, Sanders, whatever. Any POTUS would have had to take this hit one way or the other. The only way to avoid it would have been to simply not withdraw.
And I wouldn't have blamed Trump, because again, it doesn't seem avoidable. So I can't really blame Biden. The only other choice would have been to stay in Afghanistan, and I wouldn't have supported that from any President. Maybe Trump would have committed to getting us out at his original withdraw date, but Biden was ultimately the one who did it, and he's taking the hits anyone in his position would have taken.
And I think people are smart enough to see that, which is why you aren't seeing the general outrage toward Biden that you all are expecting. Because we understand the choice he had to make in the context he had to make it.
And while perhaps many people would have attacked Trump for exactly the same problem, I wouldn't have been one of them.
100% it would have been a shit show for Trump too. Economy would totally have collapsed under Trump too, because of the fuckery the hedge funds and giant banks have been doing. The 2008 crash never ended, we just kicked the can down the road to right now. So we have an economic collapse and a failed eternal war to deal with. This, plus all the other degrading of our society's morals and foundations we've been experiencing over the past decades? Plummeting birth rates, life expectancy decreasing for the first time ever. That's a real danger to us as a country, we might collapse.
Enter Q. A plan to unite America behind a leader for the coming troubling times. A plan to reignite people's patriotism and faith in God, and counteract the effects decadence and corruption has on society.
So they can't have our 'savior' oversee these disasters, they had to get him out of office, so the fall guy can take the hit. Well, if he has to leave anyway why not use the opportunity? Enter the ordeal about election fraud.
This is all clearly just my opinion, but I'm pretty sure I'm right.
You absolutely could be.
If the Q plan is real, and if Q is who he claims to be, and if there is some secret White Hat operation to make Biden look bad, you'd be right.
I'm not convinced that Q is anything other than a talented internet troll, but luckily, this theory has a deadline.
Either Q returns and proves you guys right, or he doesn't, and he proves me right.
So really, we can just sit back and wait this out together. I'll bring the lawn chairs and am happy to be around for the end, regardless of which way it goes.
So if the economy collapses and Biden takes the fall, you'll admit I'm right? Or would it have to be more than that? I don't really know what Q returns means, I fully expect no further communication, and most likely for it to never be validated in the public's eyes. Seems odd to go to such great lengths to ensure plausible deniability, then just admit to it one day.
Plausible deniability?
I don’t think that this choice is some conspiratorial plan known only to a few select people and being used to manipulate anyone. It’s not just “optics” the way you guys use it here.
It’s a real choice that everyone can see and consider. Do we give future allies the impression that we will rob them of any gifted/sold equipment if we have political issues at home that make our personal involvement in conflict untenable?
Is that a message that is productive to future US relationships?
Or do we let the Afghan army keep the weapons we gave them, because we gave it to them with the hope they’d use it to fight the Taliban?
That’s not theater. The only theater being done is by the Taliban, who have somehow convinced people here that them having M4’s and Humvees somehow makes them much better at being terrorists than they used to be.
Anyone who has driven a Humvee knows that the Taliban is likely not going to know how to or bother trying to maintain those pieces of shit when they inevitably break down. Anyone who has been in the desert is probably going to be much happier with an AK than an M4.
The Taliban is playing optics, and apparently it’s working.