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cablez 37 points ago +37 / -0

It's a cold...So take vitamins C, D, and zinc every day to help prevent it.....Then who gives a shit about vaxxed or not.....YOUR immune system is fine. Couple that with diet and exercise and you should be nearly bullet proof :D:D

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Rubieroo 7 points ago +7 / -0

If you add quercetin to that regimen the zinc will do a lot more good. Ionophore.

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PewPew82 33 points ago +33 / -0

Asymptomatic = no symptoms, therefore not sneezing or coughing. Which is how this "Virus" is spread. If asymptomatic person has horrible hygiene and person who contracted also has horrible hygiene then I would say its possible. But it would require asymptomatic to damn near lick the other person or feed them their boogers.

Asymptomatic term never passed the smell test for me. It has always seemed to be a fabricated term to make the masses look at strangers like they did in the 80s with HIV/AIDS.

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inquimous 17 points ago +17 / -0

It's a perfect bogeyman to control people and maintain the fear necessary to keep up the hoax which depends on the illusion of a deadly disease. Think about it. If people who don't seem sick at all are spreading it, you can't trust anyone.

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PewPew82 12 points ago +12 / -0

Just like the HIV/AIDS crap in the 80s. I was young then, but I remember being told to stay away from that person because they look like they have AIDS or having my parents check my Halloween candy for needles. I grew up in a small farming community and still was taught to fear your neighbor by the local news (nearest big city news).

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Humbled1 2 points ago +3 / -1

And what do you call Rock Hudson, in a wheelchair?

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Humbled1 4 points ago +4 / -0

Roll-Aids

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pchajek 3 points ago +3 / -0

Drug addict.

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Humbled1 2 points ago +2 / -0

See above

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Lalge0229 2 points ago +2 / -0

Liberace’s friend

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

Faggot face.

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dandy_wieners 3 points ago +3 / -0

I thought they said there was no asymptomatic transmission. Especially since the test is bunk.

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inquimous 5 points ago +5 / -0

First, a huge observational study in China says it is very unlikely, to the vanishing point of probability. Few people know about that, though. Second, all year last year there were many efforts trying to determine how COVID was spread, addressing factors such as how long it lives on surfaces, what environmental factors do to that viability, what differences in exposure to others makes(i.e. does social distancing make a difference). Pretty inconclusive considering all the effort to find something, the best results are better air filtration seems more effective than masks or isolation. But all the time the fear is ramped up by media, and I include ignorant opinions on social media. The SM posters may be wrong, deliberately or honestly, but they are influential. All you need now to keep the panic going is that little bit of truth that gives life to evey lie. It is true that asymptomatic people can spread disease, everyone knows about Typhoid Mary. Different disease in every way, but it's enough. Presto, we have a huge unknown body of asymptomatic spreaders, and this could only be proven or refuted by testing absolutely everyone with a reliable test and then relentless contact tracing. A perfect bogeyman.

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GDZeus 3 points ago +3 / -0

I spoke to a person (not a friend, just someone I spoke to in passing, a elementary school teacher) that both her and her husband are so freaked out and scared about this virus that they are “fully vaxxed” she informed me and pretty much stay at home except for work, when they get home each day they take their shoes off outside the door and sanitizes them, she said she has groceries delivered to her, says they wipe down everything from the store before putting stuff away. Sanitize everything.

She freaked out when she found out a students family member had tested positive for the virus so the kid in her class got sent home, and it killed her to have to wait the whole day till the kids left to clean and sanitize her classroom. She acted like this kid had the virus and lord only knows how long he was spreading his sickies around 🙄 And you know she probably wears her freaking mask all the time outside her home.

The media has her totally and completely freaked out. I mean if you’re an elementary school teacher this shit shouldn’t even phase you, with all the germs kids spread around, come on now, but it seems like a lot of teachers lined up to get the jab when they went to the schools here to give it to any teacher/staff member that wanted it.

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inquimous 5 points ago +5 / -0

I have to regard people like that as mentally ill (crippling phobia). It helps me stay charitable. Honestly, if we had never heard of covid, a lot of us know someone like the teacher, and that (neurotic) is how we would have approached them.

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GDZeus 1 point ago +1 / -0

I told it will be ok, tried to tell her the supplements to take but she wouldn't listen, said she already had her vitamins (she didn't say what vitamins) that she takes twice a day separated into morning & night times. I was like ok, and dropped the conversation and walked away. Lord can you imagine if I had mentioned ivermectin? lol

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Voteordie -1 points ago +2 / -3

This is so wrong on so many levels… just to keep it simple, viruses have incubation periods where it is replicating but that is before symptoms would appear… you would still spread the virus during that time period whether coughing, sneezing or picking your nose.

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Voteordie 0 points ago +1 / -1

That is not an accurate way to describe how transmission occurs. Yes there is an increased risk if you are not in a well ventilated area but to claim that the ONLY way the virus spreads is in a poorly ventilated area is false. The virus is in the air if someone infected coughs or sneezes, the amount of time it stays airborne and whether or not it provides enough of a viral load to another person is dependent on a variety of factors.

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Voteordie 1 point ago +2 / -1

Feel free to link the paper but it is pretty common knowledge that a sneeze or cough releases droplets of multiple sizes, especially sneezes which allow tons of aerosolized particles to escape. Information below.

Aerosol from sneezes and coughs

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LordSoth 5 points ago +5 / -0

Note to self....."stop eating boogers"

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Reefay 1 point ago +1 / -0

stop eating other people's boogers

FTFY. Eating your own is just fine. In fact, it should be encouraged: https://www.menshealth.com/health/a19546352/eating-boogers-good-for-you/

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Phishhed44 2 points ago +2 / -0

🤮🤣

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branded 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just don't do it on national tv like Joe Biden. It looks gross, and no amount of science will change that.

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Plutza 3 points ago +3 / -0

I actually laughed out loud at "feed them their boogers". Still laughing and thanks for that.

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ThomasMaker 2 points ago +2 / -0

As it isn't airborne beyond in droplet form most flu/cold spread is from lack of hand hygiene and touching surfaces, people touch their eyes/face/mouth without even thinking about it many times every hour, people certainly don't wash their hands as often as they touch their face and a surface afterwards....

A double digit percentage of people don't wash their hands when coming from work or from a trip to the store, and that double digit percentage is realistically not very likely to be on the low side................

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LockHerUp17 5 points ago +5 / -0

As a recent medical grad, I think asymptomatic spread is complete bullshit. When you are asymptomatic, it means that your viral load is low and having a high viral load is what makes you infectious.

Think HIV, where the viral load is measured regularly to see if your HIV is under control. With an undetectable viral load, your ability to infect someone else is far under 1%. Coronavirus is still a virus and thus still operates by the standard framework of virology and medicine, so it would still follow these basic principles.

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Voteordie 2 points ago +3 / -1

Isn’t HIV a perfect example of asymptomatic transmission? There are drugs that can lower the viral load, but there are also those from early during epidemic that only helped ease symptoms. There were many times people were not exhibiting symptoms yet they were spreading the virus at incredibly high rates. I’m not claiming to be a doctor but I think you are misunderstanding the relationship between viral load and symptoms…

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powershellder 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except it’s transmitted by bodily fluids. Even if you don’t have symptoms, you are, ahem, “injecting” your fluids into another person.

With COVID, you are only being exposed to aerosol drops, which don’t occur without coughing or sneezing (symptoms).

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Voteordie 0 points ago +1 / -1

Understood the transmission method is different, I’m simply highlighting that viruses can be spread without the host exhibiting symptoms.

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powershellder 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right.

I just think STDs are a poor example, since there is an exchange there.

Respiratory viruses are spread by the symptoms.

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Voteordie -1 points ago +1 / -2

Again, yes and no. If you consider every cough, sneeze to be a symptom then yes, you’re right but all of those can occur as a result of irritants in the environment.

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LockHerUp17 1 point ago +1 / -0

HIV is different because it doesn't cause you to have a cough, or fairly visible symptoms, instead it shreds your CD4 count and makes you immunosuppressed. This is why many people can have high viral loads and while themselves and others are not be able to tell that they are sick.

Because it would manifest by them having a higher chance of getting things like lymphadenopathy (hard to detect sometimes), diarrhea (non specific, some people would brush it off), and things like candidal infections (it is natural flora but our immune system keeps it under control, unless you are immunosuppressed)

The other big one is body aches. How many people have chronic body aches? This is why you can technically be having symptoms but not have them be severe enough to catch your attention. - this is what people may call asymptomatic, but the likely reality is that they are not aware of their symptoms bc HIV can be "low key".

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Lalge0229 1 point ago +1 / -0

Treating people IRL is a different ball game

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iamherefortheluls 1 point ago +1 / -0

isn't the whole basis for these vaccines is that they suppress the symptoms?

I don't know what to trust anymore - some doctors saying the vaccines are supposed to be priming your body's immunity system to respond to the infection.

Okay, if that's so than your body shouldn't be tolerating any significant viral load without triggering an immune response.

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LockHerUp17 1 point ago +1 / -0

So in theory the "inactivated" spike protein in the vaccines is what primes your body to create antibodies to it, leading to some type of immunity.

The main issue I have is that increased blood clots, myocarditis, etc - the biggest adverse effects of the vaccines so far seem to be things that are related to the spike protein itself. So completely inactivated? - doesn't look like it at all. Another scary thing is that there is evidence the spike protein can cross the blood brain barrier. It should not be doing that and could be contributing to things like cerebral venous thrombosis, strokes and covid/vaccine "brain fog".

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iamherefortheluls 1 point ago +1 / -0

leading to some type of immunity.

but if that was the case, you shouldn't be seeing vaccinated people with any significant viral loads right? I mean if the immune system is primed to recognize the infection, it should be yeeting the virus immediately and not allowing any build up - or am I misunderstanding this?

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LockHerUp17 1 point ago +1 / -0

There's varying types of immunity. These vaccines seem to be shit. Israel is highly vaccinated and still has high hospitalizations.

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Quantachyon 3 points ago +3 / -0

Unvaxxed asymptomatic= safe to others (no spreading covid )

Vaxxed asymptomatic= spreading covid to others without knowing.

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Toolbane 2 points ago +2 / -0

Depends on the day doesn't it? Kek

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CQVFEFE 8 points ago +8 / -0

Asymptomatic spread has never been demonstrated, to my knowledge. If you don't have sufficient viral load to give yourself symptoms, you aren't shedding enough to make anyone else sick.

Has this been disproven somewhere?

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Vidura [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

he is talking about vaxxed people, they shed the spike

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you but that source is invalidated. It relies on PCR tests, which have been proven to be completely bogus because of the way they're being used. This fact has been confirmed by the inventor of the test.

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Voteordie -2 points ago +1 / -3

Incorrect, that “fact” was not confirmed by the creator of the PCR testing method dr. Katy Mullins, as she never commented on the effectiveness in relation to covid. Infact, she never commented on effectiveness at all. So thank you, but your response is invalidated by your lack of any sort of investigation into what you claim is a “fact.”

Link

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CQVFEFE 1 point ago +1 / -0

PCR testing method dr. Katy Mullins, as she never...etc.

Thank you, but your response is invalidated by your lack of any sort of investigation into what you claim is a woman, named "Katy Mullins."

Dr. KARY MULLIS was a man (!) who knew a lot more about the PCR test than most doctors:

https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

And just for fun, here's an article in the Journal of the Bulgarian Pathology Association titled COVID-19 PCR Tests are Scientifically Meaningless:

https://bpa-pathology.com/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/

You can find more with a little research. Happy Hunting!

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Voteordie -1 points ago +1 / -2

Regardless of my auto correct issues the point remains Dr. Mullins never said anything about PCR and it’s effectiveness in testing for covid 19. You are incorrect here.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

auto correct issues

LOL didn't know they caused gender confusion, but no matter

I don't think so, but I do know you're still incorrect in calling him Dr. Mullins.

We can just let this go. You need the time instead to do WAY more reading on the PCR test, if you are still trusting it and the "infection" numbers it produces; and into Kary Mullis's own opinion on how the test is to be used.

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deaddragon 8 points ago +8 / -0

This article is a pre print, has not been peer reviewed and should not be used to guide clinical practice as it states in the article itself but it's compelling. I would like to see some of these doctor's research get some reviews and critiques on the research.

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dildoschwaggins 5 points ago +5 / -0

So the vaccinated are the disease? Always have been...

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patriotic_legend 5 points ago +5 / -0

Guess, what, the school systems in our area say it is okay for asymptomatic kids to come to school if they have been vaccinated.

So they are literally trying to spread this shit. Everything they do is backwards. I guarantee the mask causes transmission too.

Many, many people need to hang for this.

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bubble_bursts 4 points ago +4 / -0

Working as intended

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GaIIowBoob 4 points ago +4 / -0

Viruses spread by replicating inside your cells, and then exploding the cells killing them, moving to more cells, replicating and exploding more. This is symptomatic. Low level symptoms are possible during spread but no symptoms is unlikely when peoples lungs are full of exploding viral loaded cells dying.

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ImBillCurtis 3 points ago +3 / -0

From Figure 1: Infectiousness was determined for a subset of N1 Ct-matched specimens with Ct <25 by inoculation onto Vero E6 TMPRSS2 cells and determining presence of cytopathic effects (CPE) after 5 days in culture.

In Laymens terms: they didn't check for viruses. They just looked to see if the cells got fucked up. And they did this check using the CDC's N1 primer set (the same primer set authorized under EUA last year. Zero. Independent. Science.

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Island_Photo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Cold medicine suppresses symptoms so you can function despite being ill. The so-called vaccine functions like long term cold medicine ...its quite a bit like drinking coffee or snorting coke in advance of getting drunk so that you are less apt to fall asleep at the wheel.

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Voteordie 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don’t snort coke before getting drunk…

Tell me you’re old without telling me you’re old lol

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Island_Photo 1 point ago +1 / -0

So why take cold medicine (the so called vax)before you are sick? You reinforce my point yet do not see it...

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Vidura [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

because the vaccine is some kind of virus factory and I think that's the evil genius part the host of this vax, while alive, sheds the virus asymptomaticaly

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LetsGoFishing 1 point ago +1 / -0

The spike proteins are rogue agents that attack healthy tissue, especially in healed injuries. Not viral, but I don't think the "virus" is viral either.

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Tewdryg 3 points ago +3 / -0

In Nature, it has been shown in the preponderant of cases illness shows itself with symptoms. This is true in almost every case. However, we are not dealing with Nature here. This is an anthropogenic (manmade) synthetic bio-weapon and is contrary to Nature. The divine order of Nature always strives to be maintained and in the end always corrects any abomination. This is Law of Nature.

Since asymptomatic illnesses have never been a vector of any influential transmission of disease in all of history, how does one explain the mRNA vaxxinated? Do they really have no symptoms? Or hasn't anyone really looked?

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branded 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think their main symptom is that they walk around like zombies trying to eat other people's brains. (shitpost)

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Tewdryg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, since you have "shitpost"[ed] (these are your words), I'll answer my own question. No one has been allowed to look at what the symptoms are. We are being sold a fiction regarding the 'asymptomatic' spread of disease. Do you know how preposterous this is? Never in the history of illnesses has there been asymptomatic spread of disease. It simply doesn't exist except for very rare isolated cases. It however has never been a vector of transmission though. This is because everyone falling ill has symptoms. We are being fed the most outrageous LIE that healthy people spread contagions. Healthy people do NOT spread contagions. There are always symptoms with the sick. The symptoms of the COVID-19 vaxxed are being hidden from us. They are sick and must have symptoms that need to be determined and diagnosed.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points ago +3 / -0

I archived the full text version of the study-

https://archive.is/xAfCY

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PhDinNY 2 points ago +2 / -0

Here in NY, the "get the covid shot" commercials now feature people talking about how horrible it was to have suffered through covid. The threat of dying from it seems to have been put aside. Could it be that the data is coming out that the new variants are blatantly not that deadly? (pushing the previous 99.97% survivable figure to 99.99997% :) )

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Phishhed44 1 point ago +1 / -0

All viral variants are less deadly yet more transmissible. Fact.

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pedewithweed 2 points ago +2 / -0

"Asymptomatic" sure does bare quite a lot of similarities to munchausen syndrome

Just saiyan

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Deaf_MAGA_Pede 1 point ago +1 / -0

But I thought "asymptomatic" was a made-up term to make them sound smarter? I remember reading somewhere that said that "asymptomatic" means bunk, as it is just another fearmongering term to scare the people into thinking they're a threat to society.

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QAjon 1 point ago +1 / -0

This should be stickies.

This is the biggest blow to their vaccine push.

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FullDisQlosure 1 point ago +1 / -0

High viral load because their immune system is comprimised

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Lalge0229 1 point ago +1 / -0

What the responses show me is that we the people are the lab rats. Vax or no vax.

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Retaining_H2O 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's a good thing that I don't spend much time around vaxed people. :>)

We just don't have much in common.

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SJBHamilton 1 point ago +1 / -0

One of the comments says there are several published studies coming out with similar findings. Others say other studies show roughly equal viral loads from nasal swabs of both vaxxed and unvaxxed.

I like one comment that says if you're worried about whether others are vaxxed or not then you are anti-vax because you're admitting the COVID injections don't work.

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AipacisAmericanenemy 0 points ago +1 / -1

isn't the source he's using unverified by peers?

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Nfld709 -3 points ago +2 / -5

I live in the most-jabbed province of Canada (Nfld) and NOBODY is getting sick or dying from the vax. The same people who lied through their teeth about the dangers of the non-existent 'covid' virus are doing the same thing with the vaccines. When they decide to lock the world down for the super-deadly vax-strain coronavirus, youll only have yourselves to blame.

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1sketchyv 6 points ago +6 / -0

How would you know if NOBODY is getting sick or dying from the vax?

Let me guess, you haven't heard it on the 'news'?

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tchouk 1 point ago +1 / -0

Both sides are retarded.

The truth is, this RNA vax is the most dangerous one created since the original pox inoculations 500 years ago.

But it's not going to kill all of the people who took it. Just one in like a couple thousand.

But it will probably have debilitating long-term effects which we aren't aware of yet that are much more common. Like we'll have 5x the people with Parkinson's or Alzheimer's in 30 years time

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dfarr1 -2 points ago +1 / -3

I know MANY vaccinated people and none have gotten sick after taking the vaccine. I also know of five people, personally, that are unvaccinated and have gotten the virus just recently. Three of them went to the hospital, but just for a few days, and are home and doing well now. The question I have is, do the unvaccinated that get covid have some natural immunity from a previous infection or not? I am not antivax, nor am I for it. I had covid last December and got an antigen blood test that said I had once had it. Therefore I am not getting the vax.

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madmallard 3 points ago +3 / -0

Two people I know fully vaccinated both had to go to the hospital.