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posted ago by SkiSkiUSMC ago by SkiSkiUSMC +136 / -0

Do any of you have any recommendations of which ones to buy? I am wanting to do this but when I look online, though I can find published by dates, the actual dates they were printed are recent which worries me that they may have been altered. Any ideas on where to find originals? My local library is closed because “muh covid” so I can’t look there.

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SurelyShirley 14 points ago +14 / -0

This is exactly why we need to keep all the printed books. They can change digital but they can’t change print.

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 12 points ago +12 / -0

Q is clear

u/#q1957

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 7 points ago +8 / -1

Focus in ww2

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 7 points ago +8 / -1

I'm assuming it's the truth about Hitler and the Holocaust... Or lack thereof?

I've heard, but not confirmed, the Holocaust is never even mentioned in old books cause it never happened? Idk

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +3 / -2

A lot of Holocaust survivors didn't speak for years after the Holocaust. Most likely PTSD. But there are numerous volumes of testimony that can be read.

Still, if you think 20 years ago there were different histories on the Holocaust -- well, most of what I know is from 20 years ago or so. I haven't read updated stuff. I'm afraid if I do they'll say it was mostly an attack on LGBTQ+ POC people, but there were a few Jews around too.

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Sprinkles88 3 points ago +4 / -1

There were 15.2m Jews before the war and 15.8m after.

Unless we assume a 72% growth rate over a 4 year period, while being locked up and genocided, holcaust was not possible.

That's not even touching on the rest of the obvious.

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +3 / -2

Not according to my numbers.

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Sprinkles88 4 points ago +5 / -1

Then your numbers are fake and gay, like your account.

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +3 / -2

Or maybe your numbers are fake and gay, just like your screen name that references what your wife's boyfriend puts on his dick to make you more excited to get him ready for your wife.

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AipacisAmericanenemy 0 points ago +2 / -2

so only joos knew about the holotrix? nobody else spoke up? the greatest genocide that has memorial in so many countries(why, i don't know) and nobody else spoke up about it? nobody from germany, england, united states, or russia?? there has to be something in the newspapers from that time.

nevermind there's no evidence and any formal questioning of it is antisemetic. not too long ago(about 10 years iirc), it was suggested to look at a field at one of the camps that was supposed to have bodies in. it was immediately covered by tons of rocks for some reason and the questioning of it was buried. not to mention the numbers of official casualties have changed a few times

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +2 / -1

Uh, there was plenty of testimony over the Holocaust. Not just Jews.

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AipacisAmericanenemy 0 points ago +2 / -2

so plenty enough testimony, but not enough to mention the holotrix in the hostory books. gotcha.

there's plenty of testimony that it didn't happen also. who do i believe?

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Shalomtoyou 1 point ago +2 / -1

If you want to talk to me, at least spell words correctly.

If you want a list of Holocaust survivors and their writings, there are plenty. You have an obsession with Anne Frank it seems though her diary encompassed her hiding, not the camps itself. Not sure what you're beef is with Primo Levi or Victor Frankyl, but I'm sure you'll have a denial about all eyewitnesses and why "it doesn't count."

I suppose you imagine the confessions of Nazis at Nuremberg were inauthentic?

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VicariousJambi 1 point ago +2 / -1

Hitler saw the conditions of weimar and since you couldnt tell who was your greates ally or who was your enemy, he decided to move all the jews out of germany. That was the "final solution", give them their own homeland. Even ransomed a rothschild.

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ArmyLady 10 points ago +10 / -0

Buy a set of encyclopedias from before 1950, the older the better.

Go to used book sales.

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ceegeegee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Another good place to look is estate sales.

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Oh_Well_ian 2 points ago +4 / -2

Can I read about the Holocaust and the Holodomor in those books?

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AipacisAmericanenemy -1 points ago +1 / -2

just looked in The New pictorial encyclopedia of the world on archive.org and there's nothing on holotrix.

edit: 1954

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Takebackourplanet 7 points ago +9 / -2

Anons did that. Was no holocaust mentioned in early history books.

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sleepydude 16 points ago +16 / -0

I bought a 1949 Webster's Deluxe Dictionary and Brief Encyclopedia for $17 at an antique store in town.

It has a massive section on WW1 and WW2.

I can confirm what you're saying. While it does mention poor treatment of the Jews by the NAZI party, there is no mention of the holocaust.

The holocaust's definition was just a Jewish ceremony.

You'd think 1949 would have been enough time (War ended in 1945) to mention the death of "6 million Jews" by starvation, gas and cremation.

I'm not saying there was no holocaust.

I'm saying that in 1949, your average American who owned a Webster's Deluxe Dictionary would say there was no holocaust.

I may get some screenshots to post if you guys are interested. I need to get a good camera though. The pages are brittle as hell and I don't wanna shove it on a scanner tray and risk damaging the book.

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Mr_A 5 points ago +5 / -0

I want to see the receipt that says $17.

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sleepydude 3 points ago +3 / -0

Phone's dead. 1 sec, I took a picture of it, but I need to get it off my phone. Where can I upload it?

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Mr_A 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'll trust you, bro.

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Scipio_Americanus 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you would REALLY like a book titled, "The Hunt for Zero Point." It was written by a writer for Jane's Defense Weekly, so it's not some wackjob, and the stuff he uncovers about WWII programs is chilling.

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Impossipede 1 point ago +1 / -0

That was an interesting game for its time. There was a lot of neat info in it.

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TheAwakened 2 points ago +2 / -0

Because Hitler deported the Jews, not killed them

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's what I thought

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Scrupulous_S0N 6 points ago +6 / -0

Antique malls and flea markets. Day trip out of town if you are into that sort of thing. It is more effort than browsing the internet or library and it might be a fruitless venture. There is a lot of junk out there and you can spend hours browsing. I've only been a few times but I also like finding old arithmetic books even if I was weak on "math" in school. Disappointingly, I haven't found any old history schoolbooks but I will keep an eye out. Although I have come across Encyclopedia sets, the seller is typically far too proud of them.

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JonathanE 5 points ago +5 / -0

I decided to wander down this rabbit hole a bit and made an interesting discovery I previously wasn't aware of..

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jan/09/holocaust-film-too-shocking-to-show-night-will-fall-alfred-hitchcock

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3455796/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Apparently Alfred Hitchcock directed an unreleased documentary using film taken in 1945 of the camps.

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Wingy120 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember reading about that. High School Teacher taught more more on a college level. Alfred H. told the military to document or video the massive amount of dead bodies. He also had the German citizens walk by the massive grave. He wanted the Germans to be aware what had happened in the camps. Alfred H. Said the reason he did this was to have documentation of the camps. He did not want anyone saying that the camps were a hoax.

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PeaceAndLovePatriot 5 points ago +5 / -0

Holocaust:

Holo, meaning hologram or illusion

Cause, meaning caustic or variable of burning

Holocaust= an illusion of burning, not real

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Shalomtoyou 2 points ago +2 / -0

The origin of Holocaust in Judaism is a burned sacrifice.

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20-guage 4 points ago +4 / -0

Better World Books has an excellent selection of used books -- including textbooks.

https://www.betterworldbooks.com

https://www.betterworldbooks.com/search/results?q=textbooks

To find what was actually taught, use Brave. For example:

YEAR + "high school" + history + curriculum

https://search.brave.com/search?q=1960+%22high+school%22+history+curriculum

https://search.brave.com/search?q=1950+%22high+school%22+history+curriculum

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20-guage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Also, search for older content on the Internet Archive.

https://archive.org

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Suzeq2018 4 points ago +4 / -0

sets of old encyclopedias are helpful, could get a couple of sets and compare. Pre WW1 to the 1980s-2000

https://www.ebay.com/itm/124930697906?hash=item1d16732ab2:g:ls4AAOSwvQJhWLtw

I also like looking through: https://archive.org/ & https://www.gutenberg.org/

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Scipio_Americanus 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have a similar conundrum. Years ago when Beck talked about Saul Alinski's book being dedicated to Lucifer, I checked it out at the bookstore where I worked and sure enough, it was there. Several months ago I went back thinking I should get a copy to document it and the dedication had changed!

Does anyone know when that happened?

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MarkusCincinnatus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Rules for Radicals? I hadn’t heard about the lucifer dedication, thanks

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Scipio_Americanus 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's the one! I'm guessing a printing before 2010ish would have it, but I'm not sure what edition/printing number that would be.

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I-AM-ANON 3 points ago +3 / -0

By the book Son of Liberty: No Apology by Marvin Publishing house. A textbook on the Sabbatean cult & cabal

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SkiSkiUSMC [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you. I’ve gotten a ton of recommendations on this post now and I plan at looking into all of them.

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Sprinkles88 3 points ago +3 / -0

Lol, read them from the 1800s and it becomes clear that history from 10-20 years ago was redacted.

History is hilarious, there is so much obvious truth that gets swept away just by misdating things a hundred or two hundred years. So events that are clearly connected, become disconnected and they don't make sense.

Modern "history" as best I can tell is basically a cornel of actual history, with most of the key people's, dates, and events obfuscated intentionally in order that we can't see the obvious manipulation of us or the obvious actual storyline that repeats again and again.

The stuff q was talking about (ww 1&2) is so fucking obvious it's insane, and literally anyone could be convinced in two hours that the whole story was a lie, but no one ever thinks to look at the numbers that prove the stories were fake af. There is just.... too.... Much.... Cognitive.... Dissonance......

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Q20191776 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can get quite an education perusing congress.gov for the Congressional Record and going back the decades of our U.S. history there. Something something about it is not sposed to be altered or rewritten. And, it is like going to the source, which is a good thing?

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Flowerpotz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Check homeschool sites and resources to find American History books from the past...as well as some current new ones that DO tell what is really happening.

One example: https://www.parents.com/kids/education/home-schooling/the-best-homeschooling-resources-online/

or this: https://cathyduffyreviews.com/homeschool-reviews-core-curricula/history-and-geography/u-s-history-core-curricula

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TheAwakened 2 points ago +2 / -0

'May have been altered'

Bruh

You learn in school that Hitler tried to conquer the world, but everyone who studies that time realize thats not the case at all.

Whole world declared war on Germany when they threw out the bankers. Massive jewish boycot of Germany (jews owned a lot of high end industry and businesses world wide).

Fucking US military even knew that Japs was gonna attack Pearl Harbor (because US military was harrassing Japan trading vessels and stuff despite being 'neutral'), but let it happen so that the people wanted war. American people was very anti war and very isolationist during that time, that changed after Pearl Harbor.

I'm not saying Hitler was Jesus or anything, but he definately got the Trump treatment from worldwide media and shit. If we didnt have internet to see Trumps own speeches, we would all think he was 'literal Hitler'.

Hitler says in pretty much every speech he dont want war at all. Churchill says in every speech he wants war. Hitler coulda ended the allies on 3 occasions but let them retreat, is that the choice of a madman who wants to conquer the world, or a man who dont want war/(maybe controled opposition)?

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SkiSkiUSMC [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I know a lot of that Hitler stuff was altered. I don’t know what specifically has and what specifically hasn’t, which I why I said “may have been altered”. Which is why Im asking for places to get the original copies from. For example, two history books published in 1930, in 1930, said what was originally written in it. That same book, written in 1930, being published by a newer company in 2021, may have been altered by that newer company in order to rewrite history for the current narrative. Like I said, “may have” because I don’t know which company publishing these books is trustworthy and which one isn’t. I can’t just say every single one most definitely “has been altered” because that would be an existential fallacy. So that’s why I’m asking my frens on here for sources that I can read and trust. Places I can obtain original copies from.

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Takebackourplanet 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hitler threw out the bankers.

Muammar Gaddafi threw out the bankers.

Both tried to establish a new economy with their own currency.

Same with other villains? Idi Amin?

Who are the bankers?

Who are the real villains?

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s4tguru 2 points ago +2 / -0

focus on ww2 the term holocaust wasn't used until the early 1970's see david irving

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ProPatriaMori 2 points ago +2 / -0

The victors write the history books....ain’t that right, “Honest” Abe?