CIAMM deleted it because it was an escalatory personal attack. It was essentially the same content as the second thread you saw (this comment is on the third thread). He described our behavior as false witness; then he said we call his ideas false in an abuse of our power, implying we have a double standard. He called us mashers running our mouths and implied we were directed by Catholics, of which there is public evidence to the contrary, as I'm submitted to First Century Bible Church.
Our considerations were that we could delete it (for other reasons than the censorship he accuses us: namely for the dramatic increase of the attacking language, the misrepresentation, and the target being the mod board rather than a contributor); or we could retain it (and invite the similarly minded to pile on, causing more disruption to the flock). Between him and me, CIAMM made the decision to delete and ban, and we continued to discuss and observe the situation. When it became clear that his ban note could be misconstrued and would become public, we admitted our mistake and have now moved the discussion to answering his concerns. These are tricky decisions, we don't always get them perfect. Thank you for your concern and understanding.
Nuts ~ to that ^ All I can say is, wait for it.... Thank God I'm Not a moderator... in christianity.
However I have successfully Intervened & moderated & brought to successful Outcomes in real life, with parties bodily in front of me. iow I know it can be done :)
re "Then Andy chose to vent here, for logic that still eludes me."
Brother, - it "eludes" you, because both of you mods were+are on the other side of the Divide, or Fence. - Please read my response to Andy just now because I have Experienced (countless times in my life) much of what Andy may have felt? --- It is NO cake-walk feeling people are bound & determined to gang up on you, & then demand Apologies. - I think, like all of us at sundrous points in our life, Andy is in a hard spot.
Hopefully Andy takes Jesus' hand again & soon Allows Jesus' Love & peace & joy to carry him onward...
Thank you, u/Andy_Man45 is beginning to get his grudges out and we are able to make changes to accommodate as we compile a list. CIAMM has already withdrawn two of his disputed statements and we will probably have background policy changes too. We have no right to gang up on anyone, and if any mod and any other user ever both want an apology from each other it indicates they should approach each other civilly as Jesus intends.
I remember dealing with another congregational leader in a case where both our feelings were so hurt we each demanded the other take corrective action first. It was the swift counseling skill of a third leader that caused us to reconsider the Holy Spirit and our history working successfully together so that we could start making concessions to each other instead of demands.
CIAMM deleted it because it was an escalatory personal attack. It was essentially the same content as the second thread you saw (this comment is on the third thread). He described our behavior as false witness; then he said we call his ideas false in an abuse of our power, implying we have a double standard. He called us mashers running our mouths and implied we were directed by Catholics, of which there is public evidence to the contrary, as I'm submitted to First Century Bible Church.
Our considerations were that we could delete it (for other reasons than the censorship he accuses us: namely for the dramatic increase of the attacking language, the misrepresentation, and the target being the mod board rather than a contributor); or we could retain it (and invite the similarly minded to pile on, causing more disruption to the flock). Between him and me, CIAMM made the decision to delete and ban, and we continued to discuss and observe the situation. When it became clear that his ban note could be misconstrued and would become public, we admitted our mistake and have now moved the discussion to answering his concerns. These are tricky decisions, we don't always get them perfect. Thank you for your concern and understanding.
Nuts ~ to that ^ All I can say is, wait for it.... Thank God I'm Not a moderator... in christianity.
However I have successfully Intervened & moderated & brought to successful Outcomes in real life, with parties bodily in front of me. iow I know it can be done :)
re "Then Andy chose to vent here, for logic that still eludes me."
Brother, - it "eludes" you, because both of you mods were+are on the other side of the Divide, or Fence. - Please read my response to Andy just now because I have Experienced (countless times in my life) much of what Andy may have felt? --- It is NO cake-walk feeling people are bound & determined to gang up on you, & then demand Apologies. - I think, like all of us at sundrous points in our life, Andy is in a hard spot.
Hopefully Andy takes Jesus' hand again & soon Allows Jesus' Love & peace & joy to carry him onward...
Thank you, u/Andy_Man45 is beginning to get his grudges out and we are able to make changes to accommodate as we compile a list. CIAMM has already withdrawn two of his disputed statements and we will probably have background policy changes too. We have no right to gang up on anyone, and if any mod and any other user ever both want an apology from each other it indicates they should approach each other civilly as Jesus intends.
I remember dealing with another congregational leader in a case where both our feelings were so hurt we each demanded the other take corrective action first. It was the swift counseling skill of a third leader that caused us to reconsider the Holy Spirit and our history working successfully together so that we could start making concessions to each other instead of demands.