So you're saying the statement "Andy misrepresented my statement as though I had stated that Andy is a ridiculous person" is a lie. Andy's deleted post read, "They can call your ideas or thoughts 'ridiculous'." So I'd need to defer to u/CuomoisaMassMurderer on that, because at first glance it looks like he misremembered it or meant something else. But, even if that's the case, at the same time you're charging a lie, which usually means an intentional distortion; so it's a wash yet again.
Assuming your charges are correctly stated, the resolution is to undelete the two comments and to establish protocols for you not getting deleted again in borderline cases. But I've already proposed resolutions and you're having a hard time interacting with that. I've been trying to tell people you used to be easy to get along with; maybe something's changed in your life that you're responding almost exclusively in complaints, without seeking resolution (as Jesus says). God will answer.
It's my understanding that CIAMM finds it very offensive to be called "pope" as a faithful EO member, especially because we've hardly even talked about evidence that we treated Catholicisim with imbalance. You might consider that in future. The admins, on behalf of the LLC, designated the 4 of us as authorities on determining the meaning of our rules and particularly the creeds that we adopted therein. On all other Biblical matters there's technically free rein for everyone. Now can we get past the rhetoric and start following the Scripture that you apparently invoked in the name of Jesus that you worship?
I find it "very offensive" to be called a liar and my contributions "garbage" and "ridiculous," etc. What point is there to contribute tightly controlled thoughts and ideas that are subject to be removed at the will of one?
Yeah, I didn't get time to reply to these. Basic internet forum theory is that any comment is potentially subject to removal at the will of one, yet this is in total agreement with limited free-speech theory. All speech is inherently limited by timeframe and physical ability, and society adds further commonsense limits. On this foundation a modest additional restriction can be added by sponsors such as prohibiting lawbreaking, and another modest restriction by moderators such as support of a focused forum purpose. Rules must be fair and applied fairly, and to this end appeals and procedures are to be welcomed. Transparency.
My intent is to list all the claims you've reasonably provided in this thread, including in this comment, so that we can render judgment on ourselves all at once. CIAMM has indicated agreement by already modifying two sentences you objected to. Your latest comment suggests you might be willing to accept this method. It takes time, of course, and other life factors intervene. If you are willing to self-moderate the two urgent requests you make, i.e., general incompletely defined offense and demand in the Lord's name for relinquishment, that will greatly ease tensions and facilitate our taking the time to get it right.
So you're saying the statement "Andy misrepresented my statement as though I had stated that Andy is a ridiculous person" is a lie. Andy's deleted post read, "They can call your ideas or thoughts 'ridiculous'." So I'd need to defer to u/CuomoisaMassMurderer on that, because at first glance it looks like he misremembered it or meant something else. But, even if that's the case, at the same time you're charging a lie, which usually means an intentional distortion; so it's a wash yet again.
Assuming your charges are correctly stated, the resolution is to undelete the two comments and to establish protocols for you not getting deleted again in borderline cases. But I've already proposed resolutions and you're having a hard time interacting with that. I've been trying to tell people you used to be easy to get along with; maybe something's changed in your life that you're responding almost exclusively in complaints, without seeking resolution (as Jesus says). God will answer.
It's my understanding that CIAMM finds it very offensive to be called "pope" as a faithful EO member, especially because we've hardly even talked about evidence that we treated Catholicisim with imbalance. You might consider that in future. The admins, on behalf of the LLC, designated the 4 of us as authorities on determining the meaning of our rules and particularly the creeds that we adopted therein. On all other Biblical matters there's technically free rein for everyone. Now can we get past the rhetoric and start following the Scripture that you apparently invoked in the name of Jesus that you worship?
I find it "very offensive" to be called a liar and my contributions "garbage" and "ridiculous," etc. What point is there to contribute tightly controlled thoughts and ideas that are subject to be removed at the will of one?
Yeah, I didn't get time to reply to these. Basic internet forum theory is that any comment is potentially subject to removal at the will of one, yet this is in total agreement with limited free-speech theory. All speech is inherently limited by timeframe and physical ability, and society adds further commonsense limits. On this foundation a modest additional restriction can be added by sponsors such as prohibiting lawbreaking, and another modest restriction by moderators such as support of a focused forum purpose. Rules must be fair and applied fairly, and to this end appeals and procedures are to be welcomed. Transparency.
My intent is to list all the claims you've reasonably provided in this thread, including in this comment, so that we can render judgment on ourselves all at once. CIAMM has indicated agreement by already modifying two sentences you objected to. Your latest comment suggests you might be willing to accept this method. It takes time, of course, and other life factors intervene. If you are willing to self-moderate the two urgent requests you make, i.e., general incompletely defined offense and demand in the Lord's name for relinquishment, that will greatly ease tensions and facilitate our taking the time to get it right.