My father fought in Europe in WWII, and I've known people who lost friends and family members in the camps or to other violence by the Nazis.
This "the holocaust is a lie" meme is bullshit.
The holocaust was as real as the Chinese Cultural Revolution, as real as the Killing Fields of Cambodia, as real as the many other mass murders that governments have been guilty of for centuries.
RJ Rummel spent decades studying mass murder by governments. Here are his top four mass-murdering regimes of the 20th century -- these figures don't count war dead; they DO include smaller mass-murders, from individuals murdered to families to villages, not just the camps:
61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
I've read several articles "debunking" the holocaust and what I've seen is mostly unbacked assumptions and very thin "research." Government mass-murder is very real and the tendency to deny it is understandably strong, but the evidence is overwhelming, and Rummel put together a lot of it. He's not the only one, of course; The Black Book of Communism focuses only on Communist governments (which are ALL major mass-murderers) but the descriptions and photographs (also in Rummel's Death by Government) are stunning and horrifying.
for certain the history surrounding WW2 is revised.
I certainly agree with that, "History is written by the victors" and Allied crimes are glossed over while German and other Axis crimes are magnified and even invented. That said, the Germans actually did murder millions of people, the largest group of victims being Jewish; there is FAR too much evidence for that and as I've said, I know people personally who were there and/or lost friends and family IN THE CAMPS and elsewhere. Details of how most of the murders happened may be distorted or in some cases lost to time, but there is no doubt in my mind that the Nazis made a real project out of murdering Jews, Gypsies, and many other groups, especially dissidents. The Nazis DID what our Cabal/Chinese/Communist government is, at this point, mostly just talking about and preparing for.
Were the Rothschilds or other Cabal elements behind some or all of that? I expect so; when war is on the horizon, BIG money gets made selling arms to both sides; bankers and arms manufacturers and plenty of others benefit and push for war. The Cabal (which often does seem to include the Rothschilds, but there are so many other elements its hard to keep them straight) has been fomenting war and lesser violence for thousands of years, for money, for power, even for entertainment for all I know.
I'm open minded about things not being entirely what I've read about the topic. You won't convince me that premeditated mass murder on a vast scale wasn't part of what happened, though.
As for camps: Nearly all (or hell, maybe just "all") mass murdering regimes have used them, so I don't see why the Germans wouldn't have. Right here in America we've got our own Gulag of camps waiting for us, as you know.
The Holodomor wasn't on the list because it was R.J. Rummel's list of only what he called the Deka-megamurderers; regimes in the 20th century guilty of killing more than ten million civilians.
I heartily agree. Coercion is literally a crime, and government is nothing more than a way to use coercion with impunity. Of course, we are told since early childhood that we NEED coercive government and that we wouldn't stand a chance without it; it's FOR OUR OWN GOOD just as Big Pharma (and the government, and the media, and seemingly everyone else) assures us that we NEED those Poison Death Shots (as Dr. Zelenko calls them).
As long as we HAVE a coercive government, keeping it SMALL goes a long way towards making it civilized and keeping the people safe; thus the magic of an earlier America, which actually became "an asylum [haven] for Mankind" as Thomas Paine put it. But again, you are correct; as Thoreau put it, "That government is best which governs not at all."
My father fought in Europe in WWII, and I've known people who lost friends and family members in the camps or to other violence by the Nazis.
This "the holocaust is a lie" meme is bullshit.
The holocaust was as real as the Chinese Cultural Revolution, as real as the Killing Fields of Cambodia, as real as the many other mass murders that governments have been guilty of for centuries.
See also: http://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
https://www.amazon.com/Death-Government-Genocide-Murder-Since/dp/1560009276
RJ Rummel spent decades studying mass murder by governments. Here are his top four mass-murdering regimes of the 20th century -- these figures don't count war dead; they DO include smaller mass-murders, from individuals murdered to families to villages, not just the camps:
61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
I've read several articles "debunking" the holocaust and what I've seen is mostly unbacked assumptions and very thin "research." Government mass-murder is very real and the tendency to deny it is understandably strong, but the evidence is overwhelming, and Rummel put together a lot of it. He's not the only one, of course; The Black Book of Communism focuses only on Communist governments (which are ALL major mass-murderers) but the descriptions and photographs (also in Rummel's Death by Government) are stunning and horrifying.
Where is the sauce that the Rothschilds manufactured the holocaust?
I certainly agree with that, "History is written by the victors" and Allied crimes are glossed over while German and other Axis crimes are magnified and even invented. That said, the Germans actually did murder millions of people, the largest group of victims being Jewish; there is FAR too much evidence for that and as I've said, I know people personally who were there and/or lost friends and family IN THE CAMPS and elsewhere. Details of how most of the murders happened may be distorted or in some cases lost to time, but there is no doubt in my mind that the Nazis made a real project out of murdering Jews, Gypsies, and many other groups, especially dissidents. The Nazis DID what our Cabal/Chinese/Communist government is, at this point, mostly just talking about and preparing for.
Were the Rothschilds or other Cabal elements behind some or all of that? I expect so; when war is on the horizon, BIG money gets made selling arms to both sides; bankers and arms manufacturers and plenty of others benefit and push for war. The Cabal (which often does seem to include the Rothschilds, but there are so many other elements its hard to keep them straight) has been fomenting war and lesser violence for thousands of years, for money, for power, even for entertainment for all I know.
I'm open minded about things not being entirely what I've read about the topic. You won't convince me that premeditated mass murder on a vast scale wasn't part of what happened, though.
As for camps: Nearly all (or hell, maybe just "all") mass murdering regimes have used them, so I don't see why the Germans wouldn't have. Right here in America we've got our own Gulag of camps waiting for us, as you know.
The Holodomor wasn't on the list because it was R.J. Rummel's list of only what he called the Deka-megamurderers; regimes in the 20th century guilty of killing more than ten million civilians.
He keeps shilling for jews. : D
I wonder how narg the jew shill is going to reply to that one
We needed to learn to have.no government
That's not Q. That's not the Founding Fathers. That's Aleister Crowley: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law."
Sorry, but I'm here to protect American political independence and integrity--not an anarchist's fable.
I heartily agree. Coercion is literally a crime, and government is nothing more than a way to use coercion with impunity. Of course, we are told since early childhood that we NEED coercive government and that we wouldn't stand a chance without it; it's FOR OUR OWN GOOD just as Big Pharma (and the government, and the media, and seemingly everyone else) assures us that we NEED those Poison Death Shots (as Dr. Zelenko calls them).
As long as we HAVE a coercive government, keeping it SMALL goes a long way towards making it civilized and keeping the people safe; thus the magic of an earlier America, which actually became "an asylum [haven] for Mankind" as Thomas Paine put it. But again, you are correct; as Thoreau put it, "That government is best which governs not at all."
You're either ignorant or a shill.
Neither. How 'bout you?
Don't waste my time.