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posted ago by NOT_ADMIN ago by NOT_ADMIN +273 / -0
  • On Sunday I went onto a Delta flight.
  • As I got onto the plane the flight attendant stops me and tells me that gaiter masks are not allowed.
  • She asks me if I have another mask or if they need to come by later and give me one.
  • I told her this is my only mask.
  • I sat down in my seat and jumped onto my phone and looked up delta policy. They allow gaiter masks if they are more than 1 layer or if they are folded over. So I start filing a complaint with BBB while my wife gets on to Delta airlines Customer service.
  • We tell them she is not going by Deltas own rules around masking and continue complaining.
  • At this point, the flight attendant comes over with a mask, I show her the policy and she walks away for 5 minutes.
  • At this point she comes back, apologized, and said the policy must have changed again.
  • We look up when the policy changed, and nothing about gaiter masks has changed for at least 6 months.
  • 20 minutes later, she gets on the intercom and apologizes again to everyone, stating that it's a stressful time.
  • about an hour later the plane lands and I get off the plane. As I'm getting off she says "sir" I keep walking cause I didn't wanna hear what she had to say.
  • she then shouts "sir wait" and gets off the plane and chases me down. She has obviously been crying, she says she is so sorry for attacking me on the plan and she will never do that again.
  • I respond with "Okay, Alright." I nod my head and walk away.
  • I didn't want her to cry, but just like a child crying after being punished for being bad, sometimes you just have to let them cry and walk away.
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el_ojo_rojo 55 points ago +55 / -0

My son had a waitress tell him he had to double up his gaiter. He politely asked her, "what is two times zero"? When she replied "zero", he just doubled it up and said thank you. I am rather proud of my nine year old for dropping little red pills.

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Surfsup 39 points ago +39 / -0

100% she didn't get it.

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Analophigus 19 points ago +19 / -0

I would have left right then and there

Then again I refuse to eat out anywhere they demand masks

Good for your boy 👍🏻 Smart lad

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Lapstrake 33 points ago +33 / -0

Pretty weird. From what I have experienced, most female flight attendants seem to feel like are authority figures like cops. They can't stand to have anybody argue with them and will go right to having you thrown off the plane.

I suppose that they are trained that way so they can have the authority in an emergency situation.

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lkjsdf9845 -2 points ago +2 / -4

They need to go back to being cute young waitresses who do as they're told.

Let's face it, anytime a woman is in a position of authority it's a mistake.

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Amos 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who do as they're told? The airlines aren't paying for them because they want to serve you drinks. They would rather save themselves the money. Having them be flying waitresses is the cover story. Flight Attendants are supposed to put their lives before yours. They're not going to be the first to evacuate in an emergency, but the last.

The requirement to be a registered nurse on an American airline was relaxed as more women were hired,[8] and disappeared almost entirely during World War II as many nurses joined military nurse corps.

in the United States, the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and other aviation authorities view flight attendants as essential for safety, and are thus usually required on Part 121 aircraft operations.

A couple examples

Flight Attendants on US Airways Flight 1549 successfully evacuated all passengers from the aircraft within 90 seconds despite the fact that the rear was rapidly filling with water.

Nine cabin crew members aboard Air France Flight 358 successfully evacuated the aircraft within 90 seconds after the A340-300 overran a runway at Toronto Pearson International Airport. The NTSB stated that the actions of the cabin crew contributed to the 100% survival rate.

They've been trained to give orders, and when they greet you when you get on the plane they're evaluating you.

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Lapstrake 2 points ago +2 / -0

That is not true. Women can be great leaders.

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lkjsdf9845 1 point ago +1 / -0

The rule of women is the curse of God.

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BrotherAmerica 1 point ago +1 / -0

If that authority involves the possible use of force, I certainly agree. After almost twenty years of martial arts schools and dealing with police and military (AF and Marines-can't personally speak on other branches), I haven't met one single female who could actually take down a serious and determined man of probably 170 lbs or more but many have had toxic and fight-provoking machismo(machisma?) Attitudes.

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MichellesDick 23 points ago +25 / -2

Flying is for birds and faggots. That is all.

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KSUIE 9 points ago +9 / -0

My monitor now has Diet Coke on it.... thanks a lot.

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MichellesDick 3 points ago +3 / -0

NP fren

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ghost_of_aswartz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Stop drinking Woke-uh-Cola products

esp those with repurposed rat poison in it

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KSUIE 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do what I want.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +3 / -2

Um. Okay. Enjoy driving 14 hours twice a month. Or is this a joke that I don't understand?

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Charliethebum 9 points ago +9 / -0

Beats dealing with the airlines

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BrotherAmerica 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is neither joke nore exaggeration.

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Charliethebum 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nope

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ImBillCurtis 6 points ago +6 / -0

A based chad would get the joke.

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MichellesDick 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nah bish you the joke.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Maybe you say this because you can't afford to travel on a plane? Whatever the case, It doesn't make sense to spend 28 hours a month driving between states to visit family. Flying is just fine. If you don't have precheck and global entry, perhaps it's a Hassel but I get through security quickly and easily.

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MichellesDick 1 point ago +1 / -0

Blocking your airways with a warm damp rag for hours and paying money to commies who mandate experimental medical procedures on their employees just to make it "easier" to visit some assholes makes you a Faggot.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0
  • You must not have ever used a gaiter.
  • Delta is not mandating it.
  • It definitely makes it a lot easier to visit family. They arent assholes.
  • You seem awfully butt-hurt. Try taking it up the butt less often and you might be less butt-hurt.
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MichellesDick 1 point ago +1 / -0

"You seem awfully butt-hurt. Try taking it up the butt less often and you might be less butt-hurt." Wow such homophobia. You must be a democrat.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

"makes you a Faggot." & "Wow such homophobia" makes you a troll.

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G45Colt 18 points ago +18 / -0

Sounds like you handled it well. No yelling - just the facts. Kudos.

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propertyofUniverse 14 points ago +14 / -0

You've got brass balls. These days really show who has strength and who doesn't.

But I can't wait for this to be over. We are being forced to fight each other for survival.

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highlandparker 11 points ago +11 / -0

EXCELLENT

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Irishman4Trump4 9 points ago +9 / -0

You should have said “Let’s Go Brandon”! Nicely done though.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

Lol that would have been awesome.

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Serendipity8 7 points ago +7 / -0

I so admire people like you! Honestly, I wish you had been there to fight for me in 2008 when they wouldn’t let me leave the hospital! Later they sued for the hospital bill. I countersued. No justice for me - found out later that my lawyer and their lawyer were golfing buddies. Had to settle for ten thousand. Better than 30 thousand, I guess.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wow. Yeah they did you wrong. That's terrible. Lawyers have licenses just like nurses, there is a board and you can file a complaint against them for their behavior. They can put a strike on that lawyers lisence!

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Serendipity8 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks. Will check it out. The trouble with being middle class is we don’t have enough money to keep hiring lawyers!

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DrMcCoy 2 points ago +2 / -0

People can't take it anymore.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Sorry, I was wrong on the license, that was another profession I was thinking of. Look into State grievance committees or ethics committees

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TakeItBack 2 points ago +2 / -0

lawyers are not licensed; they have BAR cards

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AroomaNuminahh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh! Thank you, u/TakeItBack! Shoulda happened a LONG time ago. It's about TIME lawyers got bar codes (I think most are way passed their 'use by' date).

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TakeItBack 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, they have greatly passed by their bar codes; excellent play on words!!

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh true... I was thinking about a realtor.

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tweety51A 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well you fared better than our friend who attended a wedding in upper New York state. He flew Delta out of Atlanta with his wife and 2 kids. On the way home the stewardess chastised him for the way he was wearing his mask. He told her to "Move along" and that didn't sit well with her. They started arguing he he called everyone "sheep" and all the passengers started yelling at him. Long story short he got thrown off the plane so he had to rent a car and drive home by himself overnight. What a horrible experience....I'm sure he appeared to be a nutcase.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah I tried to "argue" as politely, respectfully, and quietly as I could lol.

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Camden105b 4 points ago +4 / -0

I really can’t understand why people don’t just Mind Their Own Business. It would save us all so much grief.

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AmberWins 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've never heard of a gaiter mask in my life

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Nolagirl99 3 points ago +3 / -0

It’s like a turtle neck neck without the shirt. It protects your neck from the wind, snow, sleet. If can be used to cover your face… ie.. a mask

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AmberWins 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ooohhh, I never knew the name of it. Thanks!

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's super breathable practically does nothing. I don't wear masks, but I have to for plane rides, so I wear these. It doesn't cause my ears to hurt on long flights.

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pearlrevolver 3 points ago +3 / -0

Good on you. She'll probably never hassle another person about a mask again.

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MisprisionIsEvil 3 points ago +3 / -0

Steve Turley talked about this. We are living in a time when everyone knows eveything going on is complete horse shit, be we all have to pretend like it isn't. The Soviet Union had a name for it, but I don't recall.

She is being compelled do enforce nonsense and it's causing her anguish.

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happycamperval2 2 points ago +3 / -1

Ah pick on people at work, that’s cool. It’s one thing to stick up for yourself and clarify the policy. It’s another to brag about giving someone who is working a hard time. Congratulations you pushed her over the edge, Way to stick it to the airlines that you just gave a bunch of money to. This is why no one wants to work. People just aren’t civil with each other anymore.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

In what way was I not civil? I did not make a scene, I did not yell at her, I was not rude. I stood up for myself using the regulations that are being enforced upon me and won - as unlikely as that is. Like I stated to others, I don't want to see her cry, but just like a child who cries when they get punished for doing something bad, you don't want them to cry but they need to learn.

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happycamperval2 1 point ago +1 / -0

We’re you being civil when she tried to apologize and rectify the situation? “Chased you down” as in went out of her way to do the right thing. Yet you were right and love that high horse as you brag about it here. She was wrong. She admitted it.

I hope she quits. So she doesn’t have to deal with this shit anymore and even more flights get cancelled.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0
  • Yes, I was civil the entire time. Walking away from a situation regardless of what the other person's intent is, is definitely civil. I could have yelled "FUCK YOU" and flicked her off. I didn't. That wouldn't be civil.
  • I wanted to write my story here because it gives hope to others and shows how to stand up for yourself in this kind of situation.
  • She was wrong, and I am glad she admitted it, she wouldn't have if I didn't stand up for myself and just complied. She probably would have kept doing it.
  • I hope she learned her lesson and doesn't do it again so that she doesn't have to put others through the bullshit she put me through.

You are the ignorant observer in this story.:

  • A child steals a toy from another child.
  • The parent tells the child to give the toy back and not to do it again.
  • The child gives the toy back and starts to cry.
  • The parent walks away from the crying child and sits back down.
  • An ignorant observer comes over and tells the parent they are a bad parent for making their kid cry and for walking away from a crying kid.
  • What do you want me to do? "oh you can have that toy it's fine", or maybe tell them to give the toy back and coddle them? give them a lollypop? No. Let the kid cry and learn from their mistakes. It's called tough love.
  • The parent, being responsible. Lets the child learn from their mistakes.
  • They don't want the child to cry, they aren't cruel, but the kid needs to learn.
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happycamperval2 1 point ago +1 / -0

You are not there to teach her lessons. You are not her parent or boss. She is not a child or your child. You PAID to have her tell you what to do. She got it wrong and she fixed that. She might have worked for a different airline last month and gotten it wrong, who knows, she fixed her mistake. I’m not saying it’s your fault she cried, had a bad day, hates her job…any of that. Her response is on her. The title of your post is not “I stuck up for myself by knowing the rules” it’s “I made the flight attendant cry”. I am judging on that.

People at work are soft targets because they have to be polite and she’s probably following rules she doesn’t agree with either. Hence her frustration.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0
  • Correct I am not there to teach people or parents or be her boss. I shouldn't have to. In yet she put me into that circumstance. I did nothing wrong. I was following regulations.
  • She did get it wrong, only fixed it once I got after her for her error. If I hadn't said anything, she should continue doing it. I am obligated to stand up against any form of tyranny regardless of who it's from or how minor it is.
  • She might have worked for another airline, maybe. Maybe that airline doesn't follow CDC guidelines for airlines as Delta does. It really doesn't matter. She is enforcing restrictions on people for Delta meaning she should apply Deltas regulations. This is what the training is for, my cousin is a flight attendant. She agrees with me, that she should have known the rules.
  • People at work are soft targets, especially when they are out of line.
  • People getting onto a plane are also soft targets because a single infraction could send you off the plane with a hefty fine. or a permanent ban. I have seen a dude get thrown off the plane for complaining about wearing his mask, even while it was on his face. He quietly said: "Maam, I really do not want to wear this mask. Can I just snack on something for the duration of the flight?" - thrown off while others clapped. This is wrong, and others need to see how to win in these situations.
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Smeg 1 point ago +1 / -0

The bitch is the airline's representative and their strong arm on the aircraft.

The people who ran the ovens and gas chambers in Auschwitz were also workers trying to do their jobs... I suppose for you a simple apology would have sufficed?

Is reality too much of a stretch for you?

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happycamperval2 0 points ago +1 / -1

They had the choice the purchase that ticket and play their games. I don’t patronize business that I don’t want to follow the rules of.

The people in your example did not have a choice to be victims. The people who ran the chambers could have walked away, defied orders, fought.

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Smeg 1 point ago +1 / -0

The bitch had a choice to not work for an airline.

She also had a choice to not be a bitch.

People who wish to fly have no choice but to buy a ticket from an airline who hires people like the bitch.

You have a choice...

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happycamperval2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Like I said, I hope she quits.

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CokeOrPepe 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is the way.

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morum 2 points ago +2 / -0

she was being a " bully " because she felt that the powers that be had her back, then she found out that they didn't. she would do it again in a heartbeat if she was more sure of her standing.

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N0rds 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hint: the BBB is like complaining on Yelp. Completely useless. No different than Angie's List. It's a private company.

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ghostsage 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not strictly true. BBB doesn't have enforcement or sanctions, but they are able to leverage social pressure on businesses - and, most importantly, many businesses can be swayed by this pressure. Yelp can be used for crude social pressure, but BBB has more class and more clout. Utilized correctly, they can make good things happen.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've complained on BBB and got my previous apartment to refund me a security deposit they wrongfully stole.

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67Vert 2 points ago +2 / -0

Poor lady probably already feels like shit for caving and getting the jab

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dty6 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bless her heart. It's got to be tough for them. You did great.

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SuckaFree 1 point ago +1 / -0

Pilot got an ass chewing direct from Delta HQ, thus, the ball of shit went downhill till it went splat all over her. Must suck to be a sheep.

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dandy_wieners 1 point ago +2 / -1

This post is a fantasy

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

It absolutely is not.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you would like, I can take a screenshot from my wife's phone of her with the customer service rep. I could also show my recent ticket history

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MrJimLahey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just shows these people are just doing what they are told. I know so many in retail that take the stance, I don't get paid enough to force mask wearing.

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Aditon 1 point ago +1 / -0

It seems like she cried because she realized she was being a cunt, but didn't realize why or why it felt bad. I swear, the propaganda is so bad that the victims don't even realize they are being insufferable.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

We must all do a sit-in dirty protest at our local airports.

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SFAM1A 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nice

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Battlefield 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hopefully your complaint gets her in trouble.

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CQVFEFE 2 points ago +2 / -0

She was the one not following the rules

All he did was sit there in a seat, then walk off the plane

He was not required to stop his forward progress and turn around just because someone says sir behind him - what if he was busy or in a hurry

Also, no American citizen can ever be legally compelled to wear any object across their nose and mouth just to suit someone's idea of their medical safety

And businesses violate US Code if they refuse service to someone for refusing to cover their nose and mouth, forcing them wear something that has even a small or slight physical effect on their breathing, for any medical reason; it is practicing medicine without a license.

It's as illegal as posting a sign saying you can't get on this plane if you walk with a limp or have asthma or a cold. They aren't qualified to diagnose your medical condition.

A stewardess crying could be having gas, PMS, too much stress, just broke up with her boyfriend, etc., etc. The guy didn't abuse her IMHO

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VoatAnon1984 -4 points ago +3 / -7

Maybe you could have shown her some decency when she apologies and owns up to her fault. Shame on you, OP.

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NOT_ADMIN [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

When a child is bad, and then they get punished and go to time out, many times they start to cry. I don't want the kid to cry but at the same time, they need some tough love so that they learn. I was respectful the entire time. When she apologized I told her it was okay. There is nothing more to do.

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ImBillCurtis 4 points ago +5 / -1

Nah. If she was actually remorseful, she would have apologized then and there in front of everybody. Apologies don’t count for shit if they’re not willing to let others see it.

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CGGoolsby 2 points ago +2 / -0

"20 minutes later, she gets on the intercom and apologizes again to everyone, stating that it's a stressful time."

She did. It's right there in the post.

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ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +1 / -0

She apologized to everyone for asking him to pull his gaitor up and bickering with him on the intercom? OP, is that what happened? Did she apologize directly to you on the intercom?

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CGGoolsby 1 point ago +2 / -1

I know your asking the OP. Just quoting where he said she apologized to him directly then over the intercom again.

At this point, the flight attendant comes over with a mask, I show her the policy and she walks away for 5 minutes. At this point she comes back, apologized, and said the policy must have changed again. We look up when the policy changed, and nothing about gaiter masks has changed for at least 6 months. 20 minutes later, she gets on the intercom and apologizes again to everyone, stating that it's a stressful time.

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ImBillCurtis 1 point ago +1 / -0

OP did not say what you’re saying she said.

and apologizes again to everyone> Edit:

you’re actually probably right. Sorry bouncing between two work laptops and a phone.

Fair enough: if she did say it, good on her. Maybe OP was gracious. If not, then he could be. I can’t speak on that since I refuse to fly with these fascist policies.

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LanaForge 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe people have to suffer the full consequences of their actions or they'll never learn.

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CGGoolsby 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed. Obviously there were some underlying issues going on with the attendant. They apologized three times and even provided a mask instead of being a ass and trying to get them off the plane.