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posted ago by Afropick07 ago by Afropick07 +284 / -0

Struck up a conversation with a guy while we were waiting at the baggage claim. He mentioned that his son was a Chicago firefighter, so I asked if he was going to be fired for the jab. He said no, His son took it. He took it. He didn't understand why anyone wouldn't take it. I said its a weird new technology. He said we all took the polio vaccine and it worked. I said, “But they've found covid in animals, its not ever going away. It ‘came from a bat’, right? So unless they vaccinate all the bats...”

I was able to then transition the conversation back to firefighting and how my son loves firetrucks. I think this might be the best way to let the red pill sink in. Drop it quick and jump back out before they get too defensive and emotionally tied to their position.

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DoubleWideInTheWoods 22 points ago +22 / -0

And it most likely caused AIDS. From the NIH: We hypothesize that the AIDS pandemic may have originated with a contaminated polio vaccine that was administered to inhabitants of Equatorial Africa from 1957 to 1959. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7935079/

The original US polio vaccine was contaminated with SV40, which is linked to various types of cancer.

In addition to India, the polio vaccine in Belarus has a strong correlation with Acute flaccid Paralysis (aka non-polio polio), a sudden onset of paralysis or weakness in any part of the body of a child.

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5Solas 13 points ago +13 / -0

I have read some indications that AIDS followed directly behind the smallpox vax and tetanus across west Africa and in the US, HepB vaccination. We know that tetanus shots damage/destroy T-cells. Since scientists seem to rarely be honest medicine has lost credibility.

Cancer cells contaminated with SV 40 have been found since the polio campaigns. And basically all polio out reals were caused by the shots/OPV.

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Afropick07 [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

Wow there’s a lot there to dive into.

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DoubleWideInTheWoods 10 points ago +10 / -0

I'm reading two books simultaneously about big pharma and there's so much corruption and cover up, it blows my mind.

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citrouille 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hey, can you tell me what the books are? I'd like to take a look myself.

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ProphetOfKek 7 points ago +7 / -0

There’s a good one called Bad Pharma by Goldachre.

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citrouille 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you.

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DoubleWideInTheWoods 7 points ago +7 / -0

Jabbed: How the Vaccine Industry, Medical Establishment, and Government Stick It to You and Your Family by Brett Wilcox and Pharma: Greed, Lies, and the Poisoning of America by Gerald Posner. Posner book is 500+ pages. Still reading it but full of detailed information with numerous footnotes.

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DoubleWideInTheWoods 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes, he did write Case Closed though this is the first book of his I'm reading. It's very critical but less patronizing than Wilcox tone found in Jabbed. Posner has written on a wide range of topics from the Vatican, Ross Perot, Hitler, Saudi Arabia and more. He also wrote a novel way back in 1989 titled Bio Assassins. Looks like a quick, interesting read and something I'd enjoy since I've sworn off Daniel Silva.

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citrouille 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you, I will take a look.

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citrouille 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks.

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master_kek 5 points ago +5 / -0

Bill Gates?

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Afropick07 [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good guess! Haha

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mengderen 5 points ago +5 / -0

I believe this refers to the 50s and Jonas Salk who never received money for his vaccine-I took it in a sugar cube in grade school. I had a classmate who caught it and had to wear braces.. Didn't hear much about side effects then..

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AusStormWatcher 24 points ago +24 / -0

Plant the seed of truth. Thebworld will water it

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cryofreeze 21 points ago +21 / -0

I usually go with: "If the vaxxed are the protected why do we have to bully the unvaxxed for our health?"

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Afropick07 [S] 16 points ago +16 / -0

I have family that want us to be tested before we eat Thanksgiving dinner. Haha. They are of course “vaccinated”.

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CokeOrPepe 8 points ago +8 / -0

Needs moar jpeg - is this true? I’ve never heard this but it’s funny. How would they accidentally figure that out?

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cryofreeze 12 points ago +12 / -0

The people ruling us today are the same that ruled us back then. The cabal didn't figure this out, they just remembered.

*** I'm not sure how to verify these facts, but even unverified it's enough for me to say: "Hell no."

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lolwhut420 -1 points ago +3 / -4

lolwhut? unverified stuff makes you make decisions? Sounds ... questionable.

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cryofreeze 8 points ago +8 / -0

Yeah, there is too much to research. We are buried in information. I trust my inner voice more than anything.

Example: The world is turned upside down over a cough and twice weekly 'testing' is pushed on those that refuse the jab. The best explanation so far is that image. I can hold conflicting ideas in my head and wait for more evidence, but as of now... 'hell no to testing'.

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lolwhut420 0 points ago +3 / -3

We are buried in data, not all of it is real information.

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1KewKlew7 1 point ago +2 / -1

you believe the earth is round, did you verify that? LOL

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lolwhut420 1 point ago +4 / -3

Yes.

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WesternMan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Accuse them of being anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist white supremacist neo nazi insurrectionists for not believing their vax works

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Afropick07 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thats funny.

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SOTUisFUBAR 11 points ago +11 / -0

Nicely done fren, this is the way. Drop a subtle red pill, then divert attention.

Recipients will walk away either thinking "that's nuts..." or "Hmm, makes some sense."

This is better than attempting to challenge their beliefs and avoid situation getting more confrontational than educational.

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WesternMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

The powerful aspect of it is that they realise it's something you can comfortably say in a conversation and clearly get away with without any problems.

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electricbroth1 11 points ago +11 / -0

You are absolutely right about this technique. Get them to question the narrative, but do not become the straw man the media has trained them to attack. They have to sit with the cognitive dissonance while you go on your way.

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greenfrogracing 9 points ago +9 / -0

OP sure is right about people getting defensive and emotional when confronted with another idea that the ppl on tv have told them is wrong and only repeated by bad people who think bad things and are bad.

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pizza_lawyer 7 points ago +7 / -0

I've had the polio argument used against me too. I respond by saying "Didn't they spend a lot more time researching it before everyone started taking it.

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Afropick07 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thats good.

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LoneWulf 5 points ago +5 / -0

And, after OP's conversation, the man bought a butterfly net and is now spending his evenings catching and jabbing the local bat population...

Kek!

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BobWipple 4 points ago +4 / -0

Great work pede! A little trick I learned from the master red piller himself, Jesus, is to ask questions?

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50_stars_for_freedom 4 points ago +4 / -0

Polio bad too

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GaIIowBoob 3 points ago +4 / -1

This is a little big genius. Make it about the unvaxxed puppies - either we euthanize all the animals to slow the spread or we accept that vaccinations aren't going to get all the animals, let alone all the people.

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Wankuh 3 points ago +4 / -1

He’ll just write you off as a nutjob

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parag0n 2 points ago +2 / -0

Redpills aren't answers, they're questions

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Flakesfranco 2 points ago +2 / -0

Polio was going away and the vax actually kept it going.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tjey are physically tied to their position.

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cara_c 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm not sure how this is an effective red pill. If I were a believer in the vaccine and someone told me they've found COVID in animals so it's not going away, I'd just think, "Well, good thing I'm vaccinated then." I'd also think that a person suggesting we'd have to vaccinate all the bats to eradicate COVID might have a rather quirky approach to the problem rather than an enlightened one.

I think a better red pill would be more along the lines of how the experimental vaccines are killing and seriously injuring many thousands of perfectly healthy people for a disease with a 99.97% recovery rate for most people, and how the government and media are hiding and demonizing successful treatments that would likely boost that figure even closer to 100%.

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Stekky75 5 points ago +5 / -0

The process isn’t persuasion. The process is about introducing a idea in someone’s mind. Op introduced a reasonable idea and rather than stick around and argue until he came across as biased or pushy he walked away. That idea that was introduced will be there next tIme the media or another person tells them everyone must be vaccinated to be safe.

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cara_c 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, I understand what he was doing. I admire the OP for trying to drop red pills and spread the word. But, the conversation as described in the original post, didn't seem like it would make a pro-vaxxer start to question the official narrative or even plant a seed that would lead in that direction. I think it would just reinforce the establishment narrative that anti-vaxxers have some odd thoughts, in this case that they oppose vaccines, but think we have to vaccinate bats.

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Afropick07 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The mainstream idea that I was trying to attack was that if it came from a bat, vaccinating all the people wont make it go away. Even if all people are vaccinated AND covid for a moment in time didn't exist in humans, the next time someone encounters a bat, the next wave will start. So getting vaccinated wont make it go away, no matter how many people get the jab.

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megalithicallstar 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't think he got the point.

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WesternMan 1 point ago +1 / -0

When most people hear viewpoints their brain doesn't start going "hmm is this true? is this a truth i must now stand up for?", they think "hmmm could i repeat this to people i know and seem smart?". They judge what they believe by what they can defend and what makes them look cool or silly. the times i have seen people's eyes really light up at new ideas is not when they first hear it and realise i am telling then the truth, it's when i wrap it in a pithy and iron clad slogan and a shrug that they realise they too can perfectly replicate to others and look smart