You're going to tell me I've never personally watched a ship go "over the horizon", take out my 60x spotting scope, and was able to completely bring the ship back into view? I have 15 years experience of working on the ocean. I know damn well that ships don't go over a physical horizon. You clearly have never done any actual experimentation of your own. And the picture I mention, the black swan, shows a horizon that's way too far even with your refraction. Like way too far. For the last time, the horizon has absolutely nothing to do with earth curve. Please look up the definition of horizon and tell me where it mentions earth curve. It's freaking perspective. It's how your eyes work. Ever been in a long Vegas hotel hallway and at the very end of the hallway it looks like the floor is almost touching the ceiling? Same thing but on a different scale. And if you put your head to the floor and had someone walk away, guess what, they dissappear from the feet up just like they were going over a curve, but the floor is nice and flat and level. It's pretty simple really. Math problems are only gonna get you so far, you need to do some actual experimentation based off actual observations not what you expect to see. Many long distance laser tests have shown zero curvature. Navy ships using line of sight laser targeting systems can pinpoint ships over 100 miles away. How is that possible when there should be a bulge that's 1.2 miles high between them? Like I said, military ALWAYS assumes a flat non rotating surface when firing artillery. I can pull up a presentation where the artillery guy goes over the documents stating that. It's cleverly put in the handbook but it's never used.
You're going to tell me I've never personally watched a ship go "over the horizon", take out my 60x spotting scope, and was able to completely bring the ship back into view? I have 15 years experience of working on the ocean. I know damn well that ships don't go over a physical horizon. You clearly have never done any actual experimentation of your own. And the picture I mention, the black swan, shows a horizon that's way too far even with your refraction. Like way too far. For the last time, the horizon has absolutely nothing to do with earth curve. Please look up the definition of horizon and tell me where it mentions earth curve. It's freaking perspective. It's how your eyes work. Ever been in a long Vegas hotel hallway and at the very end of the hallway it looks like the floor is almost touching the ceiling? Same thing but on a different scale. And if you put your head to the floor and had someone walk away, guess what, they dissappear from the feet up just like they were going over a curve, but the floor is nice and flat and level. It's pretty simple really. Math problems are only gonna get you so far, you need to do some actual experimentation based off actual observations not what you expect to see. Many long distance laser tests have shown zero curvature. Navy ships using line of sight laser targeting systems can pinpoint ships over 100 miles away. How is that possible when there should be a bulge that's 1.2 miles high between them? Like I said, military ALWAYS assumes a flat non rotating surface when firing artillery. I can pull up a presentation where the artillery guy goes over the documents stating that. It's cleverly put in the handbook but it's never used.