Those who cannot understand that we cannot simply start arresting w/o first ensuring the safety & well-being of the population, shifting the narrative, removing those in DC through resignation to ensure success, defeating ISIS/MS13 to prevent fail-safes, freezing assets to remove network-to-network abilities, kill off COC to prevent top-down comms/org, etc. etc., should not be participating in discussions.
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I always assumed God was the evil character and that evil liars make the rules. That's how i took Genesis as a kid in CCD. Heroes tell the truth even when the wicked torment them for it.
God lied to adam in genesis about the fruit. The serpent tells him the truth.