Regardless of your thoughts on ivermectin, please consider very carefully before doing anything like this. Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications that the doctors may be giving people in the hospital.
Even if ivermectin is a 100% safe 100% guaranteed cure for COVID, it can be dangerous if it interacts with something else. The last thing you want is a bad reaction with a hospital medication because the doctors had no idea their patient was secretly taking ivermectin as well. They can't plan for interactions with medications they don't know the patient is taking.
Not only that, but if something goes wrong and they do a blood test and find out ivermectin was secretly being administered to their patient, then that can be legally problematic for whoever administered that drug.
Just be careful with this sort of thing. You can be 100% right that ivermectin is the right choice, but administering it secretly without telling the people who are also giving drugs to the patient is a very risky decision to make.
I am sorry to hear about your son, and I am truly wishing him the best.
Show of hands - who is sick of this asshole popping up and in favor of deportation? I don't want to grief the mods but I've yet to see a single thing posted that is an actual contribution to this board.
See the sidebar. This isn't a board for anyone with any opinion particularly ones that generally run contrary to the board which the mods have even noticed and annointed this particular user with an addendum to their username regarding.
ARandomOgre was simply pointing out the real possibility of drug interactions.
Turning this forum into a censored echo chamber is exactly what the enemy would love.
Imagine how many blue-pilled skeptical normies will come here and ask critical questions of Q to learn more as the storm get's worse. Are we simply going to ban them all?
And unfortunately, something I've dealt with from personal experience, from doctors fucking up my own medications at one point that caused some serious reactions. I have kind of a hair trigger when it comes to paying attention to medication interactions, because doctors can screw that up on their own without our help.
In general, he's right. But if your son is about to die, you have nothing to lose except your freedom if you get caught trying to save your son's life. Vfc
Literally nothing I said here was non-factual. Ivermectin is a real medication, and it does things within the body. Even very safe medications can have interactions, which is why doctors ask you what you're taking. Surgeries can be postponed for things as simple as fish oil due to the increased chance of bleeding. You can't avoid problems with medication interactions that you don't know are in the patient.
If something goes wrong at the hospital and the doctors have the ability to blame the fact that their patient was secretly being administered a drug that they didn't know about, you don't think they'd jump on that to avoid liability? You trust that they'd ignore the fact out of the kindness of their heart?
I'm just trying to provide people with information that prevents accidental interactions from taking place. Whether or not you wish to use that information is entirely up to you.
You consistently doom (see sidebar), offer nothing boom, are against Q etc. We have plenty of facts, plenty of people discussing things in the spirit of this board rather than against it etc without your wading in occasionally to offer what is essentially contrarian to the mission here.
It's beyond tiresome.
Edit: and at this writing your comment is +5/-29, and mine is +20/-0, so I don't think it's just me.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the spirit of this board is research. I am providing information based on my own research combined with yours. A researcher knows how to filter bad information through research. If you find my information to be invalid, you're welcome to either contest it or ignore it.
But I'd prefer not to get too far into that debate here in a thread where a parent is asking for help with their intubated child. I am trying to provide that help based on my own research and knowledge, just like everyone else.
And I don't think that most would agree that merely acknowledging that ivermectin is a medication that can interact with other medication is against the spirit of valid, empirical research and in defiance of the Q mission.
Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth. I watched two oils of the same spec but from different manufacturers froth up and overflow from a gearbox… Strange reactions can and do occur.
It's better than death. They have him on the death protocol. My husband and I took a lot of paste and my husband is on more medications than you can count, with zero side effects. The chances of this guy dying is much higher without ivermectin than with a side effect from it.
The only side effect from my and my family's moderate dosage of Ivermectin is temporary constipation, which has not occurred very often ever since taking it regularly.
I would rather have temporary constipation over death.
u/TastyRamen Here is a story of them sneaking it to them requesting time to pray with them, then they rubbed the correct dose of ivermectin paste onto their lips and in their mouth as best they could. Link
Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications
If the patient is being intubated, it's likely there is a lot more than remdesivir being administered. Especially for a child, there's a not-unlikely possibility the patient is being administered with benzodiazepines to help them relax or ca-channel blockers for blood pressure issues, and there are mechanisms by which ivermectin can potentially interact with those types of drugs.
Don't use it if you have liver damage, are taking several other drugs at the same time that use a common metabolic liver pathway, avoid downers in general including the Valium family, or are afflicted with this nasty parasite which actually gets worse. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/loiasis/index.html Probably none of these are relevant to a child in the US. It's a remarkably safe drug.
There's also the issue where ivermectin seems increase the binding potential of certain medications, such as benzodiazepines. This increases the potency of the medication beyond what would be expected for the dose administered.
Also, if the child is on painkillers (likely when intubated), most of those put strain on the liver. Liver damage and strain on liver can be largely interchangeable, because you don't want to put additional strain on a damaged liver or a liver already under strain. Doctors would need to know all medications affecting the liver to avoid accidentally damaging the liver as a result of additive liver effects.
The doctors aren't planning anything except what to do with the money they will get for ventilating and murdering a COVID positive patient. And if you tell them you are going to give him Ivermectin, they will have you thrown out and banned from the hospital so that you can't follow through and the next time you see your loved one will be at their funeral.
Regardless of your thoughts on ivermectin, please consider very carefully before doing anything like this. Ivermectin is an active drug and can interact with other medications that the doctors may be giving people in the hospital.
Even if ivermectin is a 100% safe 100% guaranteed cure for COVID, it can be dangerous if it interacts with something else. The last thing you want is a bad reaction with a hospital medication because the doctors had no idea their patient was secretly taking ivermectin as well. They can't plan for interactions with medications they don't know the patient is taking.
Not only that, but if something goes wrong and they do a blood test and find out ivermectin was secretly being administered to their patient, then that can be legally problematic for whoever administered that drug.
Just be careful with this sort of thing. You can be 100% right that ivermectin is the right choice, but administering it secretly without telling the people who are also giving drugs to the patient is a very risky decision to make.
I am sorry to hear about your son, and I am truly wishing him the best.
Show of hands - who is sick of this asshole popping up and in favor of deportation? I don't want to grief the mods but I've yet to see a single thing posted that is an actual contribution to this board.
If we don't have free speech, then what do we represent? Debunk his arguments.
See the sidebar. This isn't a board for anyone with any opinion particularly ones that generally run contrary to the board which the mods have even noticed and annointed this particular user with an addendum to their username regarding.
ARandomOgre was simply pointing out the real possibility of drug interactions.
Turning this forum into a censored echo chamber is exactly what the enemy would love.
Imagine how many blue-pilled skeptical normies will come here and ask critical questions of Q to learn more as the storm get's worse. Are we simply going to ban them all?
I wish I had GAW credits for extra upvotes, because you would be getting a few from me right now.
You are 100 percent right. This RandomOgre is a troll. Look at his history. He is costing someone their life.
Ivermectin, already proven time and time again.
To be fair what he said is right and good advice to be honest. It's something to think about before rushing into taking all sorts of meds.
And unfortunately, something I've dealt with from personal experience, from doctors fucking up my own medications at one point that caused some serious reactions. I have kind of a hair trigger when it comes to paying attention to medication interactions, because doctors can screw that up on their own without our help.
It's probably staying because it is offering caution to my post of a last ditch effort post based on what others have told the board of. Best option on here is: https://greatawakening.win/p/140cIqmBw1/x/c/4JJfPHhtDUY
(upvote it anons)
In general, he's right. But if your son is about to die, you have nothing to lose except your freedom if you get caught trying to save your son's life. Vfc
Literally nothing I said here was non-factual. Ivermectin is a real medication, and it does things within the body. Even very safe medications can have interactions, which is why doctors ask you what you're taking. Surgeries can be postponed for things as simple as fish oil due to the increased chance of bleeding. You can't avoid problems with medication interactions that you don't know are in the patient.
If something goes wrong at the hospital and the doctors have the ability to blame the fact that their patient was secretly being administered a drug that they didn't know about, you don't think they'd jump on that to avoid liability? You trust that they'd ignore the fact out of the kindness of their heart?
I'm just trying to provide people with information that prevents accidental interactions from taking place. Whether or not you wish to use that information is entirely up to you.
You consistently doom (see sidebar), offer nothing boom, are against Q etc. We have plenty of facts, plenty of people discussing things in the spirit of this board rather than against it etc without your wading in occasionally to offer what is essentially contrarian to the mission here.
It's beyond tiresome.
Edit: and at this writing your comment is +5/-29, and mine is +20/-0, so I don't think it's just me.
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the spirit of this board is research. I am providing information based on my own research combined with yours. A researcher knows how to filter bad information through research. If you find my information to be invalid, you're welcome to either contest it or ignore it.
But I'd prefer not to get too far into that debate here in a thread where a parent is asking for help with their intubated child. I am trying to provide that help based on my own research and knowledge, just like everyone else.
And I don't think that most would agree that merely acknowledging that ivermectin is a medication that can interact with other medication is against the spirit of valid, empirical research and in defiance of the Q mission.
Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth. I watched two oils of the same spec but from different manufacturers froth up and overflow from a gearbox… Strange reactions can and do occur.
It's better than death. They have him on the death protocol. My husband and I took a lot of paste and my husband is on more medications than you can count, with zero side effects. The chances of this guy dying is much higher without ivermectin than with a side effect from it.
The only side effect from my and my family's moderate dosage of Ivermectin is temporary constipation, which has not occurred very often ever since taking it regularly.
I would rather have temporary constipation over death.
Legally problematic for a parent? Fuck the whole entire medical industry.
I'm pretty much on board with you there.
u/TastyRamen Here is a story of them sneaking it to them requesting time to pray with them, then they rubbed the correct dose of ivermectin paste onto their lips and in their mouth as best they could. Link
Very good point, drugs.com shows no interactions between Ivermectin and Remdesivir, but still take caution.
Here's a list of known drug interactions with Ivermectin: https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/ivermectin.html
If the patient is being intubated, it's likely there is a lot more than remdesivir being administered. Especially for a child, there's a not-unlikely possibility the patient is being administered with benzodiazepines to help them relax or ca-channel blockers for blood pressure issues, and there are mechanisms by which ivermectin can potentially interact with those types of drugs.
True, how easy do you reckon it will be for OP to get his doctor to list all the meds he's on?
Not sure who "he" is referring to.
The meds the doctor is on? Very small chance of that.
The meds that the son is on? That's legally impossible for the doctor to avoid, and if that happens, raise legal hell, because you will win.
Billions of Ivermectin doses have been goven to millions of people. It is 100% harmless.
The medical community will have to earn or trust back. People do whatever you need to do to save your people.
Despite the downvotes this is actually something that needed to be said.
You have to try legal--a rapid injunction against remdesivir and to administer ivermectin.... first
But then you do the John Q thing
Sure, here's an interaction checker. https://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/ivermectin.html
Don't use it if you have liver damage, are taking several other drugs at the same time that use a common metabolic liver pathway, avoid downers in general including the Valium family, or are afflicted with this nasty parasite which actually gets worse. https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/loiasis/index.html Probably none of these are relevant to a child in the US. It's a remarkably safe drug.
There's also the issue where ivermectin seems increase the binding potential of certain medications, such as benzodiazepines. This increases the potency of the medication beyond what would be expected for the dose administered.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6319606/
Also, if the child is on painkillers (likely when intubated), most of those put strain on the liver. Liver damage and strain on liver can be largely interchangeable, because you don't want to put additional strain on a damaged liver or a liver already under strain. Doctors would need to know all medications affecting the liver to avoid accidentally damaging the liver as a result of additive liver effects.
The doctors aren't planning anything except what to do with the money they will get for ventilating and murdering a COVID positive patient. And if you tell them you are going to give him Ivermectin, they will have you thrown out and banned from the hospital so that you can't follow through and the next time you see your loved one will be at their funeral.
u/#Byebye