If you are still arguing with normie friends and family about the vaccine, my advice is to stop. Reason being, even if the vaccine was safe and effective that does not excuse forcing it into people's bodies and that is what is at stake here. This has to do with the fundamental right of choice and nothing more. The core value of which this country was founded on is essentially being raped and what's worse is too many people have been okay with it... until now. I am noticing more and more vaxxed types waking up to the reality of fourth, fifth and sixth vax and are not happy. THIS is the flame we need to stoke. We are not anti-vax. We are pro vax choice. We know tried and true vaccines like Polio are proven, but even then we STILL don't agree with any sort of mandate.
This madness is almost over. I hope it doesn't take through 2022, but that is what it is... God Willing it will be sooner.
EDIT: This data suggests that all the vaccines are now compromised. I do think based off this article, the 2019 vax was altered to test the host capabilities we are now seeing in the Omicron variant:
No. Going anti-vax plays into the MSM narrative and isn't entirely true. No one ignored the effects, the data simply didn't warrant any fear.
The past vaccines were good... but with this new information I am now starting to suspect they have been altered... as I suspected they would.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/childrens-health/polio-vaccination-still-causing-polio-after-all-these-years/
Maybe others can but I became antivax after my son was injured in 2001. It's impossible for me to back down from my stance. Sorry for those who don't want to be associated with us because we make you look bad. But we took this stand first.
So you believe in depriving others of the right to choose for themselves? Anti-vax suggests you want all vaccines gone.
Antivax mandate! When did I ever say antivax means getting rid of all?? Our fight has always been not to require them. Let parents decide what they want to give their children and themselves and transparency in science. You think the FDA suddenly wanting 55 years to produce data from the Covid vax is the first time they've ever blocked data?!?
See you don't even know what you are arguing about here! We didn't chose the name "antivaxxers" it was given to us just like it is given to people objecting to covid vax being mandated.
Which is why we need to rebrand to "Pro vax choice". It's an easy correction:
"Oh you're one of them there anti-vaxxers!?!"
"Pro vax choice, actually"
At that point the discussion either continues and improves leaving an impact on someone or they double down on their stupid and you walk away.
Nobody here is anti-vax; they’re just pro-informed-consent.
Or as I like to say, pro vax choice.
Oh and the website your sharing articles from "Children's Health Defense" is run by Robert Kennedy Jr who has always fought for parents of vaccine injured children since his article in "Deadly Immunity" published in Rolling Stone Magazine in 2006. So if you trust his work then you must realize this is NOT a new thing.
Adverse reactions have been apart of the process as with any new form of treatment. I can accept that at some point in modern history, they began altering them to suit more sinister needs. But to assume they were always bad is foolishness. The genetic pool is so diverse and spread out now that people react to various things differently.
Saying the vaccines were always bad is the same logical conclusion as saying all the Nazis took shifts as Aushwitz. That's simply not true. Most of the Nazis- hell most of the Germans didn't know about the crimes against humanity.
Yes the worsened over time especially after pharma was given immunity from lawsuits in 1986. The ingredients we sourced outside the us. The formulations we're changed to be more profitable and allow for new patents when others expired. Big problems started in children when doctors went from single dose vials to more economical multi-dose vials with preservatives in the bottle. Allowing for more han error in injection process...i.e...If the bottle isn't shaken properly before each withdrawal the nuerotoxic preservative is inhigher concentrations in the bottom of the vial doses. Meaning those kids get higher toxins and less protection from the disease.
You are arguing all of the science we have for decades but you want to claim we don't know what we are talking about and are just a bunch of angry mom's on the internet. Have you looked at Kennedy's research? How about Del Bigtree?
I have researched. The conclusions that vaccines were always bad is illogical. Back to my Nazi analogy. History teaches us that the Nazis were all Jew hating Jew killers and the evilest of all evils. People then ask "how could such evilest of evils happen?" Well... it started with good things. Good intentions. Over time it devolved into what we know as Nazi Germany. But here's the real kick in the balls: most people didn't know about all the bad things, like most vaccine manufacturers don't know what is actually going on with vaccines, especially now. But we didn't get to this point rolling out a total kill shot. We got here because the first few vaccines were actually good and effective. Over time they started poisoning the supply. Just like they also put fluoride in the water supply and dumbed us down over time with their media... or at least that's what they have convinced us happened. I'm not so convinced we're as horrible as the Cabal wants us to believe. They introduced something good and over time perverted and distorted it to something bad and now something evil.
Point being, less affirmations and more open dialogue will go a long way. Rebranding to pro vax choice is also good as it comes off as though you aren't against vaccines in general, but can successfully articulate your stance with someone who wouldn't otherwise listen. I am not countering your points to make you look bad or prove you wrong. I come off as combative to keep the discussion alive and get ALL ideas out in the open for discussion. I do not and will not pretend to be right on this. If vaccines were bad from day one, then it is what it is. I'm not so convinced, because humans are not as dumb as we have been told.
No safety studies on childhood vaccines for 30 years. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ican-vs-hhs-key-legal-win-recasts-vaccine-debate-300712629.html