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posted ago by worldcitizen ago by worldcitizen +327 / -0

craigslist deleted the post less than 12 hours later. wow. I really am looking for a Pastor that has not succumbed to these covid lies. Currently the Pastor of my church still requires masks and supports the vaccine and boosters fully. He believes there is no conspiracy to enslave us. Im at a loss. How can these people of God have no discernment on what is really happening? how? I love my Pastor but he's lost in this how?

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catchlightning 95 points ago +97 / -2

These times have driven home more than ever WHY Jesus made his sacrifice. Not only to save us from out own sin, but to tear the veil between man and God and to allow each of us to be our own temple, to have our own personal connection, no "holy middleman" required, no "false church" needed.

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worldcitizen [S] 36 points ago +36 / -0

im starting to see this clearly, its heartbreaking.

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y000danon 36 points ago +37 / -1

I can understand that.

For me - it’s very validating.

I’ve been around preachers my whole life telling me how I should love God.

Once I sorted out they are just middle management - I started really developing my personal relationship with God and only communicating directly with folks in study.

A Pastor that Acts as a representative to God is a forked-tongue-liar. They should be emphasizing you developing your own direct line to God. If they don’t - be immediately suspect.

MOST OF ALL IF THEY DO NOT EMPHASIZE SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND HOW JESUS CONFRONTED DEMONS HEAD ON - RUN

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suave200 8 points ago +10 / -2

If they are into a works doctrine, run.

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morethanaconquerer2 14 points ago +14 / -0

It takes both. If you are right with God, you'll strive to be a better person by Gods standards, that means works are inevitable.

Makes it pretty clear.

Faith without works is dead according to the scriptures.

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MaxdOut 10 points ago +12 / -2

We strive to good works, not "to be" saved, but because "we are" saved.

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morethanaconquerer2 9 points ago +9 / -0

They are inseparable.

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Callmejuls 1 point ago +1 / -0

Amen

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intellectual-darkweb 5 points ago +5 / -0

Perhaps we are talking past each other, but consider a person who accepts Jesus, and then becomes a child rapist murderer. Where do they stand?

Perhaps I misunderstand the “grace alone” crowd. I think it’s obvious we must have faith in Christ, and as James says, faith without works is dead. We have to do our best. Christ knows we’re going to screw up every day - what he wants is effort. Belief that is manifest through sincere effort.

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Forthelead 5 points ago +5 / -0

Produce fruit in keeping with repentance.

Every tree that does not bear fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

By their fruit you will know them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?

Every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree grows bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit and a bad tree cannot grow good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.

No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me (Jesus).

I think it's not about making a sincere effort. If you have truly decided to follow Jesus, then his grace will transform you so that your behaviour is changed.

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intellectual-darkweb 1 point ago +1 / -0

I had a thought: love is the outward manifestation of faith. Christ knows we’re going to screw up - but He expects our works to trend toward the point where they’re good. Our best effort is good enough and He makes up the difference.

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Forthelead 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a common misunderstanding. Unfortunately, "all our righteous acts are like filthy rags."

Or to put it another way, the words of one of my favourites:

Not what my hands have done can save my guilty soul. Not what my toiling flesh has borne can make my spirit whole. Not what I feel or do can bring me peace with God, not all my prayers and sighs and tears can bear the awful load.

I won't type the rest here, but if you wish you can read the other 80% here http://hymnbook.igracemusic.com/hymns/not-what-my-hands-have-done

Or listen here: https://youtu.be/YoBgjVsqC8s

This is in agreement with the entire New Testament and, in fact, all of scripture. For example, compare what Eve said after the birth of Cain (who turned out to be evil) with what she said after the birth of Seth, who replaced the murdered Abel and from whom the Redeemer would eventually come.

Consider God's message to the nation of Israel (Deuteronomy and Ezekiel come to mind): "you were less than nothing and the only reason you became a nation was because I (God) made you into something.

Another great song:

Not the labor of my hands Can fulfill Thy law’s demands; Could my zeal no respite know, Could my tears forever flow, All could never sin erase, Thou must save, and save by grace.

Nothing in my hands I bring, Simply to Thy cross I cling; Naked, come to Thee for dress, Helpless, look to Thee for grace: Foul, I to the fountain fly, Wash me, Savior, or I die.

And another of my favourites:

Jesus your blood and righteousness my beauty are, my glorious dress. Amidst flaming worlds in these arrayed with joy shall I lift up my head.

https://youtu.be/9hdOeKznqN4

You just can't get away from it either in scripture or in church teaching (of which the music is a reflection). We have NOTHING to offer. Our very inner selves are corrupt. Our only hope is the gracious of God whose gift of his Son, Jesus, not only atones for our sins, but also gives us a heart transplant (heart of stone removed and heart of flesh installed).

The evidence of this is the new fruit in our lives. As Paul writes, if we believe that Jesus is Lord, then we will no longer do the things in Galatians 5.19-21. Instead our lives will be characterized by the things in Galatians 5.22-23.

Please note that although it is right to desire these good things, we cannot bring them about in our lives by our own efforts. These changes are merely the evidence of God working inside our hearts.

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Michelleobamasnuts 10 points ago +10 / -0

To be fair, it’s easy for anyone to have a Craigslist post removed. They just have to flag it multiple times and it’ll be removed in less than 24 hours (or 12 in your case). I’ve come across the same issue with ads unrelated to vaccines or covid. In my case, it was somebody pissed that I was offering an item at a lower price so they repeatedly flagged me so only their ad was visible.

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HighCountryAZ 6 points ago +6 / -0

True. It was probably a pissy individual that got it removed, not Craigslist per se.

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American-Patriot 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's so bullshit. Craigslist is almost unusable now because of that.

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crane2shoreVjames2hu 3 points ago +3 / -0

Know of any good alternatives?

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MileHiLife 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Know of any good alternatives?"

Yes. You...

were born in the image of God, and God is love. Talk to Him, you already intuitively know right from wrong. The answers will come from prayer... not from a middleman. Trust yourself, trust love, trust God- for you are part of Him.

Oh, and tithe 15% of your monthly income to your inner temple 😉

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crane2shoreVjames2hu 2 points ago +2 / -0

15% of your monthly income to your inner temple 😉

absolutely!

I was referring to c-list though.

Where are people going to market?

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Fjolsvith 5 points ago +5 / -0

It should be heartwarming! Why do you need someone else to draw close to God? Are they going to get you to Heaven?

Jesus said, "Take up your cross and follow me." Matthew 16:24-26. You have to work out your own worth, on your own, to be able to reach Jesus.

These churches, like governments, provide weak points where the Cabal can instill their own corruption and control - the leaders.

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KickingPugilist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Some people like the community aspect of church. Others seek a pastor to be able to discuss things with or for counseling. There are many reasons.

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MaxdOut 1 point ago +1 / -0

The true church is focused on the great commission(to get the Word out).

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MegaMAGAMichiPede 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same. So much of my life has been spent in dark when it comes to religion. Only the last 2 years have shown me how false it is. My relationship with God is now between me and Him, nobody else needed.

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meander 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't view it as heartbreaking. View it as freeing. You are a free human. You are connected to your Creator, and no man can EVER be put into the middle of that, again, unless you choose to do so.

Imagine being on a stranded island. You don't need a preacher. You don't need a pastor. God is with you, always. You already know that in your heart.

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Higgins77 9 points ago +9 / -0

This☝️💯💯💯💯

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Luther1521 9 points ago +9 / -0

The fact that some pastors are bad doesn't mean they are all bad and anyone trying to destabilize or discourage organized religion is Satan's tool. You need to find a true Bible believing church with an authentic pastor. Too many people are scarred by bad churches and then blame the entire church instead of blaming the bad church. You can't read the Bible and come away without understanding God wants his people to have regular fellowship with each other, and that work has been called church for 2000 years. If you just listen to that inner voice you're likely to be led a stray and some other direction. You need other people to help you stay accountable and honest.

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BurtMcGirt 4 points ago +4 / -0

It took me a few tries before I found a based church. You are right.

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KickingPugilist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not to mention many churches help the community and give back. Food drives and things like that on a local level.

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slokill 4 points ago +4 / -0

Matthew 8 verse 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And the the Lord's Prayer starts at verse 9

I think Jesus is saying we don't need an intermediary between ourselves and God. Therefore, any State requirement that we need to be a member of a State approved church (which is against the Constitution) is also not mentioned in the Bible, at least in the New Testament.

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NeuroticFisherman 2 points ago +2 / -0

That verse is talking about not boasting about your religion or praying in public to get some sort of virtue signalling credit, to not try to make yourself look better to others or to claim you're closer to God than others so you're therefore better, things like that. That when you pray, be alone, don't show off to others or boast about your religion. Don't think you're better than others because you pray. Just do it quietly and without fanfare in a personal way with God. It is not saying we don't need pastors or churches. I tend to think pastors are overrated too, but that's not what that verse is talking about.

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MarkusCincinnatus 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s as if these types think Revelation is a fairy tale or something. Thank God we can read the book for ourselves and not need the middlemen.

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Grnmtn 28 points ago +28 / -0

If your church under the 501(c)3 program, it is technically a charity, and is much more easily manipulated by the powers that be via the tax system. As a charity, it is NOT afforded any rights under separation of church and state. To be a true church, it should be under 508 program, faith based organization. Please do your research. I suggest you watch this video (sorry for YT): https://youtu.be/2HkC0kVllSA At the very least, skip to 16:30. God bless.

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worldcitizen [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

hey thanks!

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Enlightenment_Now 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you! This was EXACTLY what I was looking for!

Wary of the 501 c 3, I had not heard of the 508 program until your comment.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!

Have a blessed day!

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Grnmtn 1 point ago +1 / -0

So happy to hear that I helped!

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BettyLiberty 17 points ago +17 / -0

What city/state are you in?

Maybe consider taking your praise and worship online. Pastor Greg Locke of Global Vision Bible Church in Mount Juliet, TN is fearless, and his services are broadcast online each Sunday. Also Pastor Rodney Howard Brown of The River Church in Tampa, FL. He's been arrested and persecuted for his stance against all this Covid b.s., has online services as well. Pastor Robin D. Bullock, Church International, Warrior, AL, is another.

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worldcitizen [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

this!!! thank you so very much I will definitely check them out, thank you!!!

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TheBRAINz 8 points ago +8 / -0

Small home based bible study groups of fellow believers are also a great option.

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JeremiahKassin 4 points ago +4 / -0

Don't be afraid to reach out to these ministries, and ask about good churches in your area. That's how people used to network, before the internet took everything over. Odds are, someone will know someone else legit in your area from a conference or other contact.

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worldcitizen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

thank you!

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Trumpette2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

My pastor in socal is unvaccinated if you are near by

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worldcitizen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

thank you im in Arkansas

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5Solas 6 points ago +6 / -0

John Macarthur has been persecuted since the whole thing started as well, and he won against the state of CA!

Doug Wilson's grandson was arrested in Moscow, ID for putting up stickers in town standing against the CV nonsense and several of the members and a pastor were also brought in early on for singing hymns in front of city hall. (CREC church

AZ has Apologia, Jeff durbin and James white and the m sure many others Tom Ascoll in FL The Crosspolitic guys have been against all mandates

There are many who have stood firmly against tyrrany.

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ythehorses 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes! I love my Apologia Church!

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Eph612 2 points ago +2 / -0

❤️ Church International, and the Bullocks. If the border ever opens up to us again (being unjabbed) we are definitely going to visit Warrior, Alabama.

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Sutton 14 points ago +15 / -1

Sadly, pastors are not succumbing to Covid lies, they are likely receiving bribes like every other critical industry including medical, school boards and government.

The banking goblins have tested your pastor and he failed. He bent over for the New World Order, one way or the other.

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bcfromfl 8 points ago +8 / -0

There was actually an article on this very thing not too long ago...I didn't save it in my covid file. Municipalities and NGOs are giving churches large sums of money if they push the narrative.

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worldcitizen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

for real?? that sucks.

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TheBRAINz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Some others are hoping compliance will allow their organization to stay open and continue to function, albeit on a reduced capacity, long enough until things "return to normal." Unfortunately you can't comply your way out of tyranny and as it progresses churches are never exempt in the end. A question for church leaders: If you get shut down do you want it to happen as a compromising collaborator or as one fighting for truth and freedom?

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AngelCole 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yep, claiming to work for God while working for satan.🤬🤡

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bubble_bursts 12 points ago +12 / -0

Check this post: https://www.globalresearch.ca/biggest-crimes-against-humanity-ever-committed-anna-de-bouisseret-explains-who-will-held-liable-under-law/5765620

There is a huge legal notice under international human rights that we can serve anyone in authority who coerces people into taking the injections. We all have to start thinking about how to serve everyone in our communities.

That would definitely involve pastors who push the injectionss, amongst others.

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propertyofUniverse 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for that reminder.

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ArizonaDesertRat2021 9 points ago +9 / -0

Try asking on the Nextdoor app. You’ll prolly get some pushback there, too, but it is worth a try.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 5 points ago +5 / -0

Probably get banned. Kek.

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SuckaFree 7 points ago +7 / -0

Your "pastor" is most likely a Cabal lackey. At the very least he's ignorant and foolish. Which doesn't bode well for his "flock."

Time to ditch the mainstream faiths and get right with God on your own. There is NOTHING in the Bible that says you should belong to one of these "Christian" denominations. Nor does it say you should go to church every week. All you need is The Good Book, a clear mind and open heart, and a healthy dose of humility. That's it. Quit giving your time, effort, and support to these charlatans. These are the people John of Patmos, Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, John The Baptist, and Jesus warmed us about. You don't need someone else to tell you how to have a relationship with God and Jesus. You don't need an intermediary to tell you how to be a good Christian. You already have that manual and the ability to speak to God and Jesus directly.

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worldcitizen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

amen

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daisydaisy 1 point ago +1 / -0

Listen to The Word of Promise - a truly fabulous audio version of The Holy Bible. Better than going to a church to learn and worship imho.

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No1Without2 6 points ago +6 / -0

I highly recommend watching Jack Hibbs online. He is the pastor of Calvary Chapel Chino Hills.

My dad lost faith in his church in TX during 2020 because they did nothing to push back against church shutdowns, masks, etc. Any pastor that did not fight to stay open is questionable to me. Pastors that listen to what man tells them to do rather than what God tells them to do are not people I want to follow. I don't care if the department of health tells you to close the church. Did God tell you to close your church? I doubt it...

Jack Hibbs fought back against California's shutdowns and was the only church open for a while in this state while ignoring the state's threats. This resonated with my dad who started watching him ever since. My dad shared his YouTube channel with me, and my wife and I have been watching him for about 1.5 years.

Jack Hibbs has not just been great on church shutdowns, masks, and vaccines. He is also good about reminding people of our country's christian history, warning about the great reset, and encouraging his congregation to be active in politics.

Here is a link to one of his videos: https://youtu.be/kEDdA6VObxc

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TDanonDJTJR2024 6 points ago +6 / -0

Not my pastor. No he is one based man. Before this horseshit I found him to be kinda dry. But wow, when the going gets tough, this man is unmoved. No mask. No jab. Openly preaching against the LGBT and the nonsense of all this even though we have maskies attending church.

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AusStormWatcher 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wow!

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LilyBee24 5 points ago +5 / -0

I just found out my friend caved and took 2 shots. Another one down. I haven't gone to church in months but I got an email that our injected monsignor fell & broke his ankle. My jabbed mother in law also fell in the last month. Broke her pelvic bone and femur. I assume there's more to come. Hope you succeed in your endeavor. 🙏

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suave200 4 points ago +4 / -0

is his church a 501(c)? If so he is controlled by the government rather that God.
Time perhaps to exit.

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makemyday007 4 points ago +4 / -0

Churches like the schools are being paid by the Xiden government to push the narrative. Follow the money I’m sure you’ll find the answer.

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777geousmcvet777 4 points ago +4 / -0

https://youtube.com/channel/UC4TeEC8kDlMUXZFScnEPVSg

Sorry about the YouTube link but this is a great church.

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worldcitizen [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

thank you!!

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FishinGuns 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’m very pro-Christian and VERY anti-church until this all gets settled out.

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citypeople 4 points ago +4 / -0

A lot of pastors out there who haven't.

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worldcitizen [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

I just need one, can you recommend?

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Dogsoldier2 4 points ago +4 / -0

Pastor Greg Locke: https://pastorlocke.com/

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citypeople 2 points ago +2 / -0

Without knowing where you are locally, I don't know. Don't dox yourself and tell me though.

I don't think online preaching is the same as being part of a church body.

And I only know certain regions of the country too.

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Brabarian714 4 points ago +4 / -0

I am doing the same. The pastor of my former church dove head first into the hysteria and shut down our church for many months. He then reopened it but with mask requirements and 2 pew separation for seating. I shared several proofs with him and was met with "I don't buy into conspiracy theories!" Since then, our music director caved and took the vax and boosters. Sadly he died of a "mysterious and previously un-diagnosed heart condition". God tells us to not fear diseases, but my former pastor must have missed that part. Good luck in finding a new home and I pray God will keep you all safe in these days of darkness.

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worldcitizen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

wow this!

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CCGJoe 4 points ago +5 / -1

Your Pastor has always been in it for the money not the word of God. This is now obvious call him out.

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worldcitizen [S] 0 points ago +2 / -2

no way never sorry you don't know him.

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Cloe123 3 points ago +3 / -0

There is now no separation of a Church and State. The churches support and push masks and the shot in absence of any positive proof that masks work and despite evidence of harm and death and decreased efficacy after 3-6 months with the shot.

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4QN45 3 points ago +3 / -0

Divorce yourself from any 501c3 church. Theyre part of the cabal system. 2Timothy 3 is relevant for today but specifically 3:5 pertaining to pastors, and most "Christians" for that matter. Hold on, keep the faith in our One and Only Savior, Jesus🙏🙏🙏🙏 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20timothy%203&version=NIV

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lightindarkness 3 points ago +3 / -0

How does your pastor feel about the mark of the beast

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worldcitizen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

good question I will ask him

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lightindarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

quote the scripture directly

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StageL3ft 2 points ago +2 / -0

We are moving to a different state. Red to blue! Make Illinois Great Again. Kind of crazy but changed jobs and don't like the drive. When looking for a new church we started looking at the closest to our new home. We found a few and searched through their facebook pages. We were surprised to see how many were still wearing masks. We found one close to us without a single mask on anyone in any of the pictures. Maybe a couple but neglegible. I'm trying to be a part of a community not a mindless cult. Looking forward to talking to the Pastor.

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Sunnywindows 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why Craigslist?
Try looking at the websites of all the churches in your area. Quite often in their mission statements or info about the pastors you will find clues to who is “woke” and who is resisting the tyranny. Once you narrow it down, make phone calls and ask... are the unvaxxed welcome at your church? You’ll quickly find out. Phone calls can often take less time than trying to find info online.

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worldcitizen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I didn't know where else to go but I do now!

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ythehorses 2 points ago +2 / -0

For anyone attending a brainwashed church: I know it is hard, but this is clarity. Now you can see the truth. Do NOT follow those who are still blind. Leave, and search for those who can see. There are so many out there. If there is no organized church, just start a home Bible study together. Be with those who are like you, following Christ and seeing the Truth.

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royaltea 2 points ago +2 / -0

Find an FSSP Catholic parish.

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hjoseph 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed.

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TitoshandmadePatriot 2 points ago +2 / -0

craigslist deleted the post less than 12 hours later

anyone can simply refresh the page and report the post until its automatically removed.

Craigslist doesnt have to actually do anything, lots of posts stay up for hours that break their tos. they rely heavily on user reports for the automod to kick in

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NicciM 2 points ago +2 / -0

I believe we are entering into a season of house churches now. Maybe you should post another add on Craigslist offering a place to meet for all who are jabbed or unjabbed and want to worship freely without judgment or fear restrictions. People that wouldn’t normally set foot into organized religion, church buildings, can be reached through personal testimony and fellowship.

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PKTechGirl 2 points ago +2 / -0

I left my church for similar reasons. Mostly because after all of this I found that the “pastor” is a narcissist with a degree in marketing who uses “his” church to fill his bank account. I asked him after that so called new governor of New York told people that the vaccine was a religious experience why he did not use that opportunity to preach on Ephesians 6:12. He stared at me as if I had a blue dick growing out of my forehead and said, “That’s not going to happen.”

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VonJager 2 points ago +2 / -0

My pastor is also asleep at the wheelZ

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TheTroof 2 points ago +2 / -0

Once you realize most churches are just tax shelters you will understand why they take the stances they take on this.

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numina18 2 points ago +2 / -0

Mass formation psychosis. He's a victim

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MisprisionIsEvil 2 points ago +2 / -0

I assure you, this is a symptom of much worse. Terrible, unbiblical theology. Run.

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Yoikesandaway 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is an old book called, “Experiencing God” by Henry Blackaby that I read many years ago. There is a profound way to know what to do. Follow this logic:

  1. God’s will is being done on earth.
  2. If you want to be doing God’s will, look around to see where God is working and join Him.

So my husband and I were in the same boat. Every Sunday, we pray and then visit a church. I jot down notes about the church, the sermon, the people, etc. and in a few months, we will have a good idea where we need to go. It has been really fun and I love the freedom. God doesn’t want his people stuck in ruts. He has called you to be part of something new. Find where he wants you to go and who he wants to add you to.

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navycuda 2 points ago +2 / -0

The concept of the church was brought in to control the christian narrative. Why do you their their is a collection plate,

Jesus was talking about fellowship. A strong friend and family bond. Taking one day out of the week to appreciate Gods Creation, each other and the Gift of Jesus Salvation.

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Datasinc 2 points ago +2 / -0

Apologia Church in AZ.

Never had a mask mandate. Never closed our doors for a SINGLE Sunday.

Did a great full sermon on mandatory vaccines (called "cookies" to not get censored)

Service is 4-6pm MST and you can watch / livestream here - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9RJwC7Er16-Y8dvIQ-3tw

https://www.apologiastudios.com/

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worldcitizen [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

awesome!!

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Datasinc 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good solid churches are out there. Reformed Baptist churches in general handled this better than most. Some Presbyterians churches too, especially those not a part of the PCA.

Those that followed scripture knew the Bible tells us to quarantine the sick not the healthy. Leadership that followed the recommendations of God's Word over the musings of Dr Fauci are strong churches.

I'm kinda thankful for all of this. It's shown me who's gonna stand for God, country and freedom and who's gonna follow Cesar.

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Blind-fury 2 points ago +3 / -1

If you go to a church that has these two colors hanging.

Crimson or Purple.

You are in and have been worshipping satan.

These are the false prophets churches God was talking about.

Research the Bible for truth on this subject.

Now you know why some churches tell you to get the death jab.

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worldcitizen [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

I agree with you but I just go to a small poor black missionary baptist church, my Pastor is great he has just succumbed to the fear of covid. Im praying he wakes up very soon, he is a man of God in my opinion but he's lost in this lie trying to "protect" the elderly in the congregation. I understand his reasoning but he just doesnt understand the conspiracy.

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Blind-fury 2 points ago +2 / -0

If your small poor black missionary church has crimson or purple hanging on the wall.

Your poor black missionary church members have been deceived by your false prophet preacher.

Now you know why your church is so poor. The money collected by false profit preachers goes to the Vatican.

Ask your preacher where the money donated goes. Ask how much he gets.

See if he doesn't get angry with you asking questions.

The Vatican controls all churches world wide that hang crimson or purple on their walls or painted.

People are waking up.

Black folks are waking up to the truth.

You know who they'll come for ? The lying false prophet preachers who deceived them.

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Eph612 2 points ago +2 / -0

“Succumbed to the fear”. What does God tell us about fear? I’m sorry, but pastors who cannot trust God for what are OUR God-given, protected rights under the Constitution. Nuremberg Code, etc., are not fit to preach Truth from a pulpit or minister to a flock. They’re going to drag their entire congregation into fear with them. Making excuses for him, and those like him - no matter how nice they may be - is enabling the enemy and that is not what God calls us to. “Fear” is the enemy’s weapon, not an excuse for not trusting God. I believe God is using this to show each of us how we will stand in the end times, when the Mark of the Beast is required to live our lives. When the Church is persecuted. God is separating the wheat from the chaff and wants to bring His Bride into revival so we will be strong enough to keep our Faith in the end times. That could be tomorrow, or hundreds of years from now, but the principle is the same. We are not helping other Believers when we enable their fear.

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RugerP89 1 point ago +1 / -0

Recommend finding a younger preacher who still has fight left in him. They're rare but around.

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R3tro 2 points ago +2 / -0

Pastors are human just like everyone else. They succumb to the lies and propaganda like many others… remember Q said, those we were told to trust…. Pastors are of that group…

Try asking for a based pastor, instead of an unvaxxed pastor…

A based pastor, is a red pilled pastor

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Trump4NH 2 points ago +2 / -0

I love my Pastor but he's lost in this how?

Follow the money.

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Blind-fury 2 points ago +2 / -0

Or ask him how much he gets.

See if he doesn't get really pissed off by you asking.

Hehe.

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Rubieroo 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have a litmus test for them:

if someone purports to be a leader of Christians but they are unable to hear the voice of God - the God who WOULD open their eyes to the pernicious tyranny and Satanic plot going down - then they are not ones to follow. If I hear God's voice and they cannot - how can they lead according to God's will?

Having said that, I have been in churches with bad leadership and what wound up happening is the mature ones among the congregation itself rose up and shepherded and protected the "flock" of Jesus. It's not a given that one must leave such a place. Watching out for other believers is an important ministry when you're in a place with bad or no leadership.

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Magamomma333 1 point ago +1 / -0

Get out of that church fren, run. It’s time for the church to stop playing church and get out there and be the church speaking the truth to all and getting ppl to Jesus as efficiently as possible.

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Yukoncornelius 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is tough to find a church in person nowadays. I just end up watching YouTube for my intake on religion. It sucks not going out and seeing people but Lion of Judah there on YouTube is awesome to have on, especially when busy cleaning and such. The public life might never be the same or it might take years to deprogram people from covid/restrictions.

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DrinktheCovfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

We had the same problem with our Pastor, he cancelled my baptism because a bunch of people in the socially-distanced church got covid. A year later and we're still looking. Putting out a CL ad is a good idea, sorry it didn't work. What about trying Nextdoor?

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SmartGuy 1 point ago +2 / -1

The church is where you are

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MommaChz1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know this is online but he is good and does a lot of prophecy updates and how they correlate to today 😉 good luck fren I hope you find a new home church https://www.jdfarag.org/

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AngelCole 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imo, they are not men of God. They of little faith are working for the other guy unfortunately. My MIL's church, same thing as yours, it has almost destroyed the church with very few people attending. I believe other local churches are not requiring masks, only if you want to wear one. People gravitate to a more faithful pastor/leader. Sad.

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worldcitizen [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think my Pastor will wake up, at least Im praying he does I will strive until the spring with him and then ask him if we can come to church without a mask on.

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Sit0nTheFence 1 point ago +1 / -0

" money " plain and simple ,theyve all been paid,off,.yuan,,dollars...money corrupt,s..

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Phishhed44 1 point ago +1 / -0

You might want the social aspect, but nobody needs a Pastor. It’s only you and God, no go-between.

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Vplindsey 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://saltandlightbaptist.org/sermons/dont-be-scared-to-do-whats-right/

Sermon starts about 20mins in. You won’t be disappointed.