Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams.
You have to ask yourself what moral means, because the issue we find ourselves today, is that we stand on the shoulders of giants. From people like Martin Luther and John Calvin to our founding fathers, even as far back as Socrates and Aristotle, we have the privilege of living after them, reading their writings, or living in a world, with a world view, deeply shaped and molded by them. We then look back at their inadequacies and judge their character, pointing out their flaws. We are wrong to do this. If they were to look at America today and pick any person and deeply look at their life, they would be appalled by our lifestyle and mindsets. The question of morality first is the origin. It begins with something like the 10 commandments, while not necessarily new to the understanding of how things work, it laid the groundwork for a good and moral society, because it is a solid ideologue of what is "good." If "good" is open to interpretation, you may have leaders who believe it "good" to take over foreign nations because that leader is stronger than another. The problem with being "not malicious" is, what is malicious? What is the standard from which you draw? I can't trust mankind, given our long and evil history, of developing a "good" standard. Even our best intentions are mixed with selfish intentions. This is why religions exist, formed from a bedrock of a belief that is greater than ourselves. Atheists have no bedrock to form this standard upon, it is solely derived from within themselves. How can I trust their intentions? It may sound "good" but what if they worded it very carefully for an actual sinister set of standards to be placed. Then you base laws upon that standard, and there's really no control group. That's why you have to have a base, a standard. If a religion is wrong, and way off base to the point that no one follows it, it disappears. That's what the Jews expected to happen a few short years after Jesus had died. I'm not telling you that you have to be Christian or Jewish or X___. You do indeed have the freedom to believe what you want. Just know that the consequences for promoting non-religion or satanism or agnostic etc., you will inevitably destroy this nation, look where we are headed. Either a great awakening or a great reset. The great awakening if people wake up, the great reset if we accept life as "good" enough and look the other way when it's convenient. It's not immediate evil that you see, you have to look at long term consequences, and what is that derivative. The severe lacking in morals and the direction of this country are not an accident. The Q team appears to be trying to swing that pendulum so hard and so fast, that it breaks the pendulum. I hope it works.
I put good in quotations to separate good from good. "good" meaning right vs wrong as opposed to good meaning somewhere between meh and great. "good" also meaning perfectly good, not mostly good or usually good, absolutely perfect good.
YES, I'd be GLAD to talk about the catholic church. You seem to misunderstand what I'm saying. 1. Catholic Church: They have severely misinterpreted the Bible, based upon the Vatican II which is now known as one of the worst translations, was the founding translation for the Catholic Church as we know it today. People like Martin Luther and John Calvin are known for quoting the "greatest" Catholic of them all, St. Augustine and his writings, which hundred upon hundreds of years later, the Catholic church departed far from his beliefs in order to grab and abuse power. The Catholics who, killed Protestant for "heinous sins" such as agreeing with the original believer of the Catholic Church and translating the Bible into the known language of the day, were not Christians. The problem is that the devil inhabits the Vatican, which everyone on this website should know by now. Look at what the Catholic Church has been since the Holy Roman Empire was around. Money and Power. What does the Bible say about those who desire much money and power... not good things, I'll leave it at that. So you have a blasphemous association calling themselves a church. Mind you, this doesn't end with the Catholic Church. Almost every "Mega-Church" is compromised, many "Congregational Churches" are compromised. If a church looks around at the changing world and changes with "society/culture" (I put that in quotes because I don't believe the majority of people believe what the media would have us believe, see fake elections, fake pollsters, town halls hosting "undecided" who have donated to Democrats, I could go on, but I digress), they are probably not a church of Christians who believe in the Bible. There may be believers in a Catholic Church, Congregational Church, or worldly church, but they will definitely be the minority. I can trust the intentions of the 10 commandments because it is 1. written down 2. stood the test of time 3. from God (obviously my belief, but it does have some pretty substantiating evidence). Trusting someone at their word, offers little assurance, especially after people burn you, not something that has happened to me a whole lot, but it is a reoccurring theme in people's lives. I never said believe or die, I agreed you can believe whatever you want. Just know that beliefs that have diminished the growth of society and led to collapses of civilization, will always continue to do so. It's a tough truth for those opposed to the gospel, but I'm not here to cut and grind truth to make it more sensitive. I only try to present it in a way that's not unnecessarily offensive, and I'm not perfect in that either I know.
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. John Adams.
You have to ask yourself what moral means, because the issue we find ourselves today, is that we stand on the shoulders of giants. From people like Martin Luther and John Calvin to our founding fathers, even as far back as Socrates and Aristotle, we have the privilege of living after them, reading their writings, or living in a world, with a world view, deeply shaped and molded by them. We then look back at their inadequacies and judge their character, pointing out their flaws. We are wrong to do this. If they were to look at America today and pick any person and deeply look at their life, they would be appalled by our lifestyle and mindsets. The question of morality first is the origin. It begins with something like the 10 commandments, while not necessarily new to the understanding of how things work, it laid the groundwork for a good and moral society, because it is a solid ideologue of what is "good." If "good" is open to interpretation, you may have leaders who believe it "good" to take over foreign nations because that leader is stronger than another. The problem with being "not malicious" is, what is malicious? What is the standard from which you draw? I can't trust mankind, given our long and evil history, of developing a "good" standard. Even our best intentions are mixed with selfish intentions. This is why religions exist, formed from a bedrock of a belief that is greater than ourselves. Atheists have no bedrock to form this standard upon, it is solely derived from within themselves. How can I trust their intentions? It may sound "good" but what if they worded it very carefully for an actual sinister set of standards to be placed. Then you base laws upon that standard, and there's really no control group. That's why you have to have a base, a standard. If a religion is wrong, and way off base to the point that no one follows it, it disappears. That's what the Jews expected to happen a few short years after Jesus had died. I'm not telling you that you have to be Christian or Jewish or X___. You do indeed have the freedom to believe what you want. Just know that the consequences for promoting non-religion or satanism or agnostic etc., you will inevitably destroy this nation, look where we are headed. Either a great awakening or a great reset. The great awakening if people wake up, the great reset if we accept life as "good" enough and look the other way when it's convenient. It's not immediate evil that you see, you have to look at long term consequences, and what is that derivative. The severe lacking in morals and the direction of this country are not an accident. The Q team appears to be trying to swing that pendulum so hard and so fast, that it breaks the pendulum. I hope it works.
I put good in quotations to separate good from good. "good" meaning right vs wrong as opposed to good meaning somewhere between meh and great. "good" also meaning perfectly good, not mostly good or usually good, absolutely perfect good.
YES, I'd be GLAD to talk about the catholic church. You seem to misunderstand what I'm saying. 1. Catholic Church: They have severely misinterpreted the Bible, based upon the Vatican II which is now known as one of the worst translations, was the founding translation for the Catholic Church as we know it today. People like Martin Luther and John Calvin are known for quoting the "greatest" Catholic of them all, St. Augustine and his writings, which hundred upon hundreds of years later, the Catholic church departed far from his beliefs in order to grab and abuse power. The Catholics who, killed Protestant for "heinous sins" such as agreeing with the original believer of the Catholic Church and translating the Bible into the known language of the day, were not Christians. The problem is that the devil inhabits the Vatican, which everyone on this website should know by now. Look at what the Catholic Church has been since the Holy Roman Empire was around. Money and Power. What does the Bible say about those who desire much money and power... not good things, I'll leave it at that. So you have a blasphemous association calling themselves a church. Mind you, this doesn't end with the Catholic Church. Almost every "Mega-Church" is compromised, many "Congregational Churches" are compromised. If a church looks around at the changing world and changes with "society/culture" (I put that in quotes because I don't believe the majority of people believe what the media would have us believe, see fake elections, fake pollsters, town halls hosting "undecided" who have donated to Democrats, I could go on, but I digress), they are probably not a church of Christians who believe in the Bible. There may be believers in a Catholic Church, Congregational Church, or worldly church, but they will definitely be the minority. I can trust the intentions of the 10 commandments because it is 1. written down 2. stood the test of time 3. from God (obviously my belief, but it does have some pretty substantiating evidence). Trusting someone at their word, offers little assurance, especially after people burn you, not something that has happened to me a whole lot, but it is a reoccurring theme in people's lives. I never said believe or die, I agreed you can believe whatever you want. Just know that beliefs that have diminished the growth of society and led to collapses of civilization, will always continue to do so. It's a tough truth for those opposed to the gospel, but I'm not here to cut and grind truth to make it more sensitive. I only try to present it in a way that's not unnecessarily offensive, and I'm not perfect in that either I know.