I was about 8 when I asked a nun at school what are ghosts. She said there was no such thing. I knew she was lying (or just wrong) because we lived in a haunted house at the time. That is how I started to doubt 'authority' at an early age.
The thing that has always made me question sightings of ghosts is, why would they have clothing on? Clothing doesn't go into the spirit world when someone dies. I believe any ghost sightings may be evil spirits causing people to "see" them, not with their eyes though; like a holographic projection via their minds, and because ghosts are just mental images, they can't be photographed.
Would not be wrong at all. My experiences at that house led to a life long passion for exploring haunted places. Are you seeing Shadow figures? When I see one, it's usually in my peripheral vision, it's an outline of a figure. But just a shadow.
My old pastor told me that some ghosts are like memories or impressions on the earth and certain places, other sightings may be either angels or demons
Luke 24:39
Look at my hands. Look at my feet. You can see that it’s really me. Touch me and make sure that I am not a ghost, because ghosts don’t have bodies, as you see that I do.”
Wow that’s great! I remember seeing a shadow figure a couple of times, only saw feet with the line of sight I had, from the ankle down to the sole of the foot as I was closing my bedroom door. Just looked like a pair of shadow feet walking in my bedroom, it never really bothered me because I didn’t feel the need to be bothered if that makes any sense, along with on the ceiling on my bedroom a perfect square of dust clung to the ceiling almost as if the dust were clung with static charge in that shape, never came up with a theory for that just kind of moved on and blamed it on something like “must’ve been how the house was built(newerish prefab house). Figured I would share since were telling ghost stories lol
Oh, one time Boeing sent my husband on a team building conference and I woke up in middle of the night to covers being pulled off me and there was a dark shadow at foot of my bed. I pulled. Them back over me and over my head in the new house we had built. A few minutes pater I looked out and nothing was there.
I believe that. I think there are both types. We once got an EVP (electronic voice phenomenon) of something that was reacting to us. It said, "Look at thisssss", like it dragged out the 'S'. Like an evil hiss. Like most EVP's, we couldn't hear this with our naked ears, only when we played back our digital recorder. And there was a second voice that said what sounded like, "They're on to me". It sounded female while the first voice sounded male with almost an English accent. So that wasn't the imprint kind. I believe it was a demonic thing. Why would such things be trapped in a house? I have no idea of the answer to that.
I've heard someone say he thought water in the limestone bluffs under the house has something to do with it. We don't know for sure but I bet someone knows what they are.
The house to which I refer is called the Sallie house, it's sorta famous. It's in Atchison, Kansas.
For first nine yrs we had a mobile home and we’d see glimpses of a little blond girl in a white dress walk through areas in the house and outside on sidewalk. She appeared between 7 & 11yrs old. At first it freaked me out because my girls are both blond and were that age range at the time. Then we sold off mobile and built a house and where mobile had sate we build a dog boarding business. I saw her up there two more times outside in dog play yard wearing a different dress. Then my daughter first then me while grooming a dog late at night had childs writing filling up the grooming room window when steamed up before our eyes in rows write the word HELP (that freaked us out). Then we had instances of a dark shadowy human shaped figure walk across our store and down the hall (this happened once to me and once to my now son in law when he was dating my daughter). We also had a handful of times over the 12 yrs of operating our business- 17 “ human shaped footprints with toes in the snow in front of our house and tracks in snow inside 6’ high fenced in locked dog play yard, at end of our driveway in the snow, heard loud howls/ screams that carried a couple miles and were quite long, heard loud knocks on trees in woods behind boarding building, heard large trees fall yet could never find them, found face impression in dusty window screen of boarding playroom window with partial hand impression on either side and appearance was gorilla like with head twice my size. I believe we had demonic activity. There was alot of contention in our family at the time too.
Was in Western WA, Snohomish County (Stanwood) out in woods.
Saw one in 1989 wayyyy up off old logging roads off North Cascades Hwy above Lyman/:Hamilton area along Nooksack River while gold panning with my stepbrother and his best friend. No sound, no threatening gestures, just stood staring across river at me for about a minute and a half (stood approx 8 1/2 to 9’ tall) covered in dark hair, then turned and took huge strides like a person into the woods.
...Satan led Eve to view "death" as physical, when in fact, it was in reference to a "spiritual" death i.e. separation of her "soul" from communing with God....
I’ve always had enough of an independent streak to question “groupthink” and take my own path. But, I have struggled with the desire for acceptance (I think a basic need for most humans) and keeping my integrity and values at the same time. I know I have spent too much time caring what other peoples think of me. One benefit of getting older: you no longer give a crap. Last month my church decided to reinstitute masks for everybody. I said, nope, I’m out. I’ve attended there for 24 years. I don’t leave lightly. At the beginning of this pandemic my pastor said, “I don’t want to end up on the news.” F that. Think of the people around the world who have to worship in secret. Too many people died for our religious freedom for us to go backward! My sons did not offer great sacrifice by serving in our military for us to worship cowering in a basement somewhere!! I always pray for wisdom and discernment. I believe I’m right on this one.
“Bergson is known for his arguments that processes of immediate experience and intuition are more significant than abstract rationalism and science for understanding reality.” NOTED👌🏻
It is one thing to hold that knowledge depends on experience, another to limit ourselves to a certain type of experience. If scientific investigation is not to be circumscribed it should open itself to all types of experience, though proceed with its accustomed caution. In this connection Theosophical students will find the work of Henri Bergson, the great contemporary French philosopher, very suggestive.(1) He attempts to disclose the immediate data of consciousness. He rediscovered the reality of intuition for western thought. He shows how science tends to limit itself to a certain type of data. It concerns itself with that which has clear and distinct outlines, the spatial and geometrical. It neglects that which is flowing, duration and creativity. Its laws could just as well apply to a universe in which the so-called successive states were all spread out instantaneously. But we need only look into our direct experience to get the idea of concrete duration. Here we do not find mutually distinct states, but interpenetrating states, growing as in the experience of a melody. Duration is the accumulation of the past within the enduring present, which is always new because it is always growing. Here is a datum which if science took into account would open up many new lines of investigation.(2) For Bergson the increase of knowledge lies in the expansion of the range of consciousness. To know things truly is to "enter into" them, to have them as a part of one's direct experience. Concepts are needed whenever consciousness is restricted; they fill in the gaps of direct experience; they are schematic substitutes. It is the task of the seeker after truth to make himself one with things and thus ultimately to dispense with concepts.
Same. Turned over in my sleep a few times when younger, but got lulled/influenced again. I’m in a fluoridated country where official stats say 95% of adults have taken the shot.
Finally awake now.
That sums up my journey in life since I was a teenager.
Yep same here! It’s very unfortunate that there are some who think expanding their consciousness is at odds with their faith(whatever it may be).
I was about 8 when I asked a nun at school what are ghosts. She said there was no such thing. I knew she was lying (or just wrong) because we lived in a haunted house at the time. That is how I started to doubt 'authority' at an early age.
The thing that has always made me question sightings of ghosts is, why would they have clothing on? Clothing doesn't go into the spirit world when someone dies. I believe any ghost sightings may be evil spirits causing people to "see" them, not with their eyes though; like a holographic projection via their minds, and because ghosts are just mental images, they can't be photographed.
Would it be wrong to ask you about some of your experience with ghosts? My wife and son see things so it's always intrigued me.
Would not be wrong at all. My experiences at that house led to a life long passion for exploring haunted places. Are you seeing Shadow figures? When I see one, it's usually in my peripheral vision, it's an outline of a figure. But just a shadow.
That's what my son sees, shadow people. I'll ask him if its with his peripheral vision he catches them or if he's seeing them straight on.
My old pastor told me that some ghosts are like memories or impressions on the earth and certain places, other sightings may be either angels or demons
Jesus even mentioned ghosts.
Luke 24:39 Look at my hands. Look at my feet. You can see that it’s really me. Touch me and make sure that I am not a ghost, because ghosts don’t have bodies, as you see that I do.”
Wow that’s great! I remember seeing a shadow figure a couple of times, only saw feet with the line of sight I had, from the ankle down to the sole of the foot as I was closing my bedroom door. Just looked like a pair of shadow feet walking in my bedroom, it never really bothered me because I didn’t feel the need to be bothered if that makes any sense, along with on the ceiling on my bedroom a perfect square of dust clung to the ceiling almost as if the dust were clung with static charge in that shape, never came up with a theory for that just kind of moved on and blamed it on something like “must’ve been how the house was built(newerish prefab house). Figured I would share since were telling ghost stories lol
Oh, one time Boeing sent my husband on a team building conference and I woke up in middle of the night to covers being pulled off me and there was a dark shadow at foot of my bed. I pulled. Them back over me and over my head in the new house we had built. A few minutes pater I looked out and nothing was there.
I believe that. I think there are both types. We once got an EVP (electronic voice phenomenon) of something that was reacting to us. It said, "Look at thisssss", like it dragged out the 'S'. Like an evil hiss. Like most EVP's, we couldn't hear this with our naked ears, only when we played back our digital recorder. And there was a second voice that said what sounded like, "They're on to me". It sounded female while the first voice sounded male with almost an English accent. So that wasn't the imprint kind. I believe it was a demonic thing. Why would such things be trapped in a house? I have no idea of the answer to that. I've heard someone say he thought water in the limestone bluffs under the house has something to do with it. We don't know for sure but I bet someone knows what they are. The house to which I refer is called the Sallie house, it's sorta famous. It's in Atchison, Kansas.
I have heard stuff, but only when I have my hearing aids on. Can’t hear with naked ear.
For first nine yrs we had a mobile home and we’d see glimpses of a little blond girl in a white dress walk through areas in the house and outside on sidewalk. She appeared between 7 & 11yrs old. At first it freaked me out because my girls are both blond and were that age range at the time. Then we sold off mobile and built a house and where mobile had sate we build a dog boarding business. I saw her up there two more times outside in dog play yard wearing a different dress. Then my daughter first then me while grooming a dog late at night had childs writing filling up the grooming room window when steamed up before our eyes in rows write the word HELP (that freaked us out). Then we had instances of a dark shadowy human shaped figure walk across our store and down the hall (this happened once to me and once to my now son in law when he was dating my daughter). We also had a handful of times over the 12 yrs of operating our business- 17 “ human shaped footprints with toes in the snow in front of our house and tracks in snow inside 6’ high fenced in locked dog play yard, at end of our driveway in the snow, heard loud howls/ screams that carried a couple miles and were quite long, heard loud knocks on trees in woods behind boarding building, heard large trees fall yet could never find them, found face impression in dusty window screen of boarding playroom window with partial hand impression on either side and appearance was gorilla like with head twice my size. I believe we had demonic activity. There was alot of contention in our family at the time too.
Sounds like Sasquatch. Are you in the Pacific Northwest by chance?
Shared my experiences with BFRO. They never posted my story
Was in Western WA, Snohomish County (Stanwood) out in woods. Saw one in 1989 wayyyy up off old logging roads off North Cascades Hwy above Lyman/:Hamilton area along Nooksack River while gold panning with my stepbrother and his best friend. No sound, no threatening gestures, just stood staring across river at me for about a minute and a half (stood approx 8 1/2 to 9’ tall) covered in dark hair, then turned and took huge strides like a person into the woods.
I have had them as well, at our old place in WA
Plot twist: SHE was the ghost and walked off through a wall.
John 8:36
King James Bible
If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed..
...Satan led Eve to view "death" as physical, when in fact, it was in reference to a "spiritual" death i.e. separation of her "soul" from communing with God....
Faith in Jesus + 0 = salvation....
Got to take God with you on that journey. The heart by itself can be deceitful.
YES! Finally someone finds the sentiment I’m trying to convey. Thank you Fren! I believe in God, I know it and he knows it.
And point being if you don’t have the spiritual armor to stay true to who YOU are while looking behind the curtain, don’t cut down others who do.
This is why I pray for wisdom and understanding each and everyday, and especially before I open Et Cepher.
Been this way since I was 9.
I’ve always had enough of an independent streak to question “groupthink” and take my own path. But, I have struggled with the desire for acceptance (I think a basic need for most humans) and keeping my integrity and values at the same time. I know I have spent too much time caring what other peoples think of me. One benefit of getting older: you no longer give a crap. Last month my church decided to reinstitute masks for everybody. I said, nope, I’m out. I’ve attended there for 24 years. I don’t leave lightly. At the beginning of this pandemic my pastor said, “I don’t want to end up on the news.” F that. Think of the people around the world who have to worship in secret. Too many people died for our religious freedom for us to go backward! My sons did not offer great sacrifice by serving in our military for us to worship cowering in a basement somewhere!! I always pray for wisdom and discernment. I believe I’m right on this one.
Truly sounds like me!
Been this way my entire life. As a kid I never respected the opinions of adults because they were clearly retarded.
In laymen's terms some are born with a Bullshit Meter.
❤️Explains a lot.
So true
“Bergson is known for his arguments that processes of immediate experience and intuition are more significant than abstract rationalism and science for understanding reality.” NOTED👌🏻
Holy shit, if a quote could be my spirit animal, this would be it.
It is one thing to hold that knowledge depends on experience, another to limit ourselves to a certain type of experience. If scientific investigation is not to be circumscribed it should open itself to all types of experience, though proceed with its accustomed caution. In this connection Theosophical students will find the work of Henri Bergson, the great contemporary French philosopher, very suggestive.(1) He attempts to disclose the immediate data of consciousness. He rediscovered the reality of intuition for western thought. He shows how science tends to limit itself to a certain type of data. It concerns itself with that which has clear and distinct outlines, the spatial and geometrical. It neglects that which is flowing, duration and creativity. Its laws could just as well apply to a universe in which the so-called successive states were all spread out instantaneously. But we need only look into our direct experience to get the idea of concrete duration. Here we do not find mutually distinct states, but interpenetrating states, growing as in the experience of a melody. Duration is the accumulation of the past within the enduring present, which is always new because it is always growing. Here is a datum which if science took into account would open up many new lines of investigation.(2) For Bergson the increase of knowledge lies in the expansion of the range of consciousness. To know things truly is to "enter into" them, to have them as a part of one's direct experience. Concepts are needed whenever consciousness is restricted; they fill in the gaps of direct experience; they are schematic substitutes. It is the task of the seeker after truth to make himself one with things and thus ultimately to dispense with concepts.
https://blavatsky.net/Wisdomworld/setting/contemporary.html
Now research Helena Blavatsky if you don't know who that is.
Will do, I enjoyed reading your response! Very well put together
Same. Turned over in my sleep a few times when younger, but got lulled/influenced again. I’m in a fluoridated country where official stats say 95% of adults have taken the shot. Finally awake now.
I posted this some time ago on FB. And I have been like this since childhood. I've never understood people's fascination with following "the crowd".