If a baby picks up a knife, you love the baby but don't humor him. You firmly take that knife away. I feel the same about our loved ones. Kind doesn't work on the Branch Covidians. They're terrified with fear porn. What works is the equal and opposite reaction. It takes the loving boot in the ass again and again and again. It really does. Don't be afraid to stand your ground, to mix it up, to make them draw a breath in shock at your firm resolve. They need to see this from us, just like a parent who shuts a kid hurting himself down.