He said he uploaded it on YouTube way back and just unprivated it, but if he did it would still have the original upload date in the description not 5 days ago.
The first video uploaded to Youtube was in late 2005 I think so there no way he uploaded it in 2001. I mean heck in 2001 you couldn't just upload videos like we do today, there was no just free platforms to upload videos and stream then back then. You had to download everything you watched.
This is true but the MiniDV format (also a cassette format) provided spectacular image quality for the time. It's not HD but it's damn near close depending on the camera - which could run in the multiple thousands of dollars. It was a format that was in use and is still used today by professionals. Brand new cameras are nearly impossible to find today but production houses in Hollywood rent them as well as higher end camera stores.
This footage was either a pro camera or an off the shelf MiniDV. Something is definitely up with this footage being almost too "clean" meaning, it feels like the person recording it was intentionally panning all over the place - trying to look like an amateur but knowing full well what they were trying to achieve. The dialogue especially has a glow to it.
Don't disagree there are issues, but I don't think the tone is one of them. LOTS of people take shock like this in different ways. We are very used to the extreme expressiveness and pacing of TV and movie actors.
Many real people in shock sound overly subdued. They are processing what they just saw / heard, and don't have to worry about expediting into the next scene, keeping people entertained.
Also not a lot of panic in the faces around him. OTOH it's hard to predict how people react in situations like that so it doesn't have to mean anything.
Yes, it boils down to a look that you can’t create with a computer, you can but some directors or directors of photography just want a certain look - not for entire films mind you but say the film requires that “camcorder” look for a scene where an actor is watching a home movie, they’ll use a MiniDV camera to achieve that look. And/or a lot of documentary footage for a “making of” or a documentary itself will use multiple cameras and they might incorporate a MiniDV just to give that extra look to it.
That means this guy converted this video from casette to digital... so he ignore the fact that any news agency from Alaska to Mexico would pay thousands for his footage in 2001 but then when YouTube comes out in 2005 he finds it so important to upload it that he converted it from tape to digital so he can...
It's like someone else said. Maybe he was expecting a second plane? He had inside military knowledge of what was going to happen. Then thought it would be best to not draw attention to himself releasing the video?
Not really. You could easily upload your MiniDV footage to a PC with an AV cable then edit/cut the footage and save it under various formats to be uploaded to YouTube. This is how I used to upload to YT 15+ years ago..
Could a miniDV produce this good of footage back in 2001? Im only 24 years old, lol my first camera was digitial, but i dont remember seeing videos of this quality way back then. The other 911 footage isnt this good.
I just looked that ul online because ive never seen that as a thing and all i see online is that its impossible to change a videos publish date. Like you can still watch unlisted videos if you have a link and it shows the original upload date...
It only changes the first time a video is set to public. You'll see with some youtubers that use patreon they'll have n upload date of like 3/2 but comments going back to like 2/27 because they gave the unlisted link to their patrons and then set it to public on 3/2.
He said he uploaded it on YouTube way back and just unprivated it, but if he did it would still have the original upload date in the description not 5 days ago.
The first video uploaded to Youtube was in late 2005 I think so there no way he uploaded it in 2001. I mean heck in 2001 you couldn't just upload videos like we do today, there was no just free platforms to upload videos and stream then back then. You had to download everything you watched.
most camcorders were still cassette tape
This is true but the MiniDV format (also a cassette format) provided spectacular image quality for the time. It's not HD but it's damn near close depending on the camera - which could run in the multiple thousands of dollars. It was a format that was in use and is still used today by professionals. Brand new cameras are nearly impossible to find today but production houses in Hollywood rent them as well as higher end camera stores.
This footage was either a pro camera or an off the shelf MiniDV. Something is definitely up with this footage being almost too "clean" meaning, it feels like the person recording it was intentionally panning all over the place - trying to look like an amateur but knowing full well what they were trying to achieve. The dialogue especially has a glow to it.
Yeah, the almost deadpan, "Oh my Lord." raises red flags for me.
That really sounded fake! Was he praying to Satan? That really made me think this was remade.
Yes, Hearing the person keep saying oh my lord over and over was pretty cringy in my opinion. It honestly didn't sound like he was shocked or upset.
Don't disagree there are issues, but I don't think the tone is one of them. LOTS of people take shock like this in different ways. We are very used to the extreme expressiveness and pacing of TV and movie actors.
Many real people in shock sound overly subdued. They are processing what they just saw / heard, and don't have to worry about expediting into the next scene, keeping people entertained.
Also not a lot of panic in the faces around him. OTOH it's hard to predict how people react in situations like that so it doesn't have to mean anything.
Cameraman: It was a united airplane! He flew it right into the building on purpose!"
Great eye to catch the brand of airplane lol
He also said “that was the second plane” but the inflection in his voice was like he was expecting and knew there was going to be two planes
I had a high 8 that wasn't bad
MiniDV is still in use!?! Isn't it all interlaced etc
Yes, it boils down to a look that you can’t create with a computer, you can but some directors or directors of photography just want a certain look - not for entire films mind you but say the film requires that “camcorder” look for a scene where an actor is watching a home movie, they’ll use a MiniDV camera to achieve that look. And/or a lot of documentary footage for a “making of” or a documentary itself will use multiple cameras and they might incorporate a MiniDV just to give that extra look to it.
Correct.
Minidv was 'hd' and even though used little tapes they were digital, not analog.
I had one. The video WAS excellent for the time.
All my home videos back then were great, then when we switched to early smart phones, the video sucked, until it progressively got better.
We used them for snowboarding the took pretty good videos we could slow down and study our technique.
That means this guy converted this video from casette to digital... so he ignore the fact that any news agency from Alaska to Mexico would pay thousands for his footage in 2001 but then when YouTube comes out in 2005 he finds it so important to upload it that he converted it from tape to digital so he can...
Thats not suspicious at all.
It's like someone else said. Maybe he was expecting a second plane? He had inside military knowledge of what was going to happen. Then thought it would be best to not draw attention to himself releasing the video?
Not really. You could easily upload your MiniDV footage to a PC with an AV cable then edit/cut the footage and save it under various formats to be uploaded to YouTube. This is how I used to upload to YT 15+ years ago..
Could a miniDV produce this good of footage back in 2001? Im only 24 years old, lol my first camera was digitial, but i dont remember seeing videos of this quality way back then. The other 911 footage isnt this good.
If you private or unlist a video during the upload process, the upload date resets once it's made public.
I just looked that ul online because ive never seen that as a thing and all i see online is that its impossible to change a videos publish date. Like you can still watch unlisted videos if you have a link and it shows the original upload date...
It only changes the first time a video is set to public. You'll see with some youtubers that use patreon they'll have n upload date of like 3/2 but comments going back to like 2/27 because they gave the unlisted link to their patrons and then set it to public on 3/2.
He posted it to his geocities page. :)
Nice... completely forgot about Geocities!