"There is general agreement among scholars that the hand salute is actually the first part of "uncovering" in front of a senior."
"There are three things to remember about the military salute. The first is that the lower-ranking or junior member initiates the salute. The senior member does not, nor should they be expected to."
And then there is stuff we see but cannot wrap our heads around... like... the evening of 5 October 2020 (just hours before Biden gives his Gettysburg speech, President Trump left Walter Reed Hospital and flew on Marine 1 to the White House south lawn. in this photograph, taken a few minutes after landing, who is President Trump saluting in the departing helicopter. whoever it is flew with the President from Walter Reed hospital in Marine 1, remained on the helicopter as the President ascended the staircase to the the South Lawn Balcony, where the President waited for the helicopter to begin its take off and departure to render and hold a salute as the helicopter departed [...] so i leave you with this question. you see the picture of The President of the United States saluting, what one guy described as the north end of a south bound helicopter. when have you ever seen The President of the United States salute an aircraft?
We've already established that proper salute protocol is not always followed. Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, all while in civilian clothes, rendered salutes. Reagan is often credited with starting the trend, BUT there's evidence of Eisenhower doing it, perhaps this has something to do with my questions and theories about the military flags in the Oval Office... Ike started that too.
Truman and FDR most typically removed their hats and put them over their hearts. Very hard to find photos of either rendering salutes, but I did find a few. In addition to a playful returned salute to a child, there's another instance from Truman and one from FDR... granted, we assume the men in the photos are the real people, and it's not a hypothetical double making an oopsie a la Inglorious Basterds.
Interestingly starting with Truman, all future presidents until Obama and then Trump, had some type of prior military service. Also keep in mind, a former POTUS isn't exactly your typical civilian... he's a retired CiC, still gets secret service detail and state protection. Also the question over Executive Privilege has been talked about recently re: Trump and Obama... granted, constitutionally speaking, privilege only applies to matters WHILE in office.
So point is that protocol alone, tradition alone, doesn't exactly mean anything. Trump could have been breaking protocol. The salute could have been nothing. But it also could have meant everything. The scene was clearly set up, focused on and promoted with obvious purpose. Remember the scene of Bob Dole standing and saluting HW Bush at his funeral? That was turned into media gold. And who could ever forget arguably the most memorable salute in US History?
Norman brought up this helicopter scene many times. CHAOS also brought attention to it. Trump would only be initiating a salute to a higher authority, or a foreign diplomatic equivalent. My running theory has been that section 3 of the 25th had been trigger either around that time or perhaps even earlier, so Trump was saluting the new 46th POTUS, perhaps Pence, Grassley or Pompeo.
I do agree that if some change of status occurred, it was at Walter Reed. Still can't stop thinking about this event, how it was staged up, the cameras set up for these perfect shots... the salute send off to the helicopter... Norman, CHAOS, others, were onto something. And Trump's remarks at Alamo Texas on Jan 12th 2021 regarding the 25th...
The pre-speech music selection was on fire... music is chosen INTENTIONALLY. Might need to more closely analyze the song list, but just triggers my spidy senses (the show HIMYM used music to drop so many hints about the endgame, which I figured out in the damn pilot episode and had to endure years of bashing to be vindicated)... also nice football jersey there fren
"The 25th Amendment is of zero risk to me, but will come back to haunt Joe Biden and the Biden administration. As the expression goes, be careful what you wish for..."
Zero risk because if he's not POTUS, he couldn't be impeached anyway? Remember the media/Dems pushing the theory that he could be impeached "after leaving office"? Of course that went nowhere, because derp, can't be done, would be unconstitutional. The assumption of seemingly 99.999999% of the world was that Trump's warning to "Biden and the Biden administration" was prophetic to a future event in which Biden would be 25th'd and replaced by Harris. But how would that haunt the "Biden administration"? Would only be the removal of Biden, not the "administration." Some have [wrongly] speculated about a Trump return via Speaker and removal of Biden/Harris, BUT that would be via impeachment, NOT the 25th. So then how would a yet to be 25th'ing haunt Biden and the Biden administration? As my theory goes, it's because Trump already used it on himself for reasons yet to be definitively confirmed and explained. This isn't Trump predicting Biden being 25th'd. It's Trump top kek trolling Biden and the Biden administration because the prior usage of the 25th (Oct 5th or earlier) allowed for the Nov 3rd Sting Operation to proceed under the command of acting POTUS Pence + Chris Miller + Space Force... at least, that's my theory anyway... they wanted Trump 25th'd... and they got what they wished for, and it will have been the cause of their defeat.
He did salute as have others in the past, although that's always been breaking of military protocol (POTUS not to salute when in civilian dress). Returning a salute however, would be within protocol. It's been a while so I don't remember exactly, but check back through my comments re: salute protocol... posted about in a while back when CHAOS prompted the questions about the helicopter scene.
We SAW Trump acting with presidential authority... could always just be optics. There's no constituonal requirement to publicly disclose everything that is or isn't happening outside of the camera's view.
Yes, as we've gone over before, Pelosi would have had to be informed. I've already addressed that and the question about gained advantages multiple times. No need to rehash. Something still to consider is Pompeo's role in all of this... if Pelosi was controlled, it's also possible that if both Trump and Pence 25th'd (section 3) themselves, next down is Pelosi (controlled), Grassley, Pompeo. Grassley clearly still in Senate, so that would have been a pass (he didn't HAVE to accept the "promotion" after all). But boy has Pompeo been looking good and acting the part of president quite well... though, really he's been more a continued role of Sec of State... perhaps under POTUS Pence (or Trump)... several possibilities. Will be great to finally learn the truth behind everything
Was Pelosi told to push impeachment etc? Certainly possible.
Theory to make a difference would be to shield Trump from having any influence over or involvement with military operations, also shield from public view... optics are essential. Ensure that everything happens legally, by the book, in accordance with the Constitution, yet not tip off enemies or cause public chaos.
It's possible that he un-25th'd himself and resumed powers to sign EOs etc. Possible he triggered Section 3 multiple times. Again, also possible that his "signings" were just a show. In either case, not that important
https://qagg.news/?q=Q%2B
WWG1WGA!
i've seen this video........ 17 times!!!
There is one of the Q drops that mentions this sorta, nice photo BTW, thanks. Q+ with two extra ++
President Trump's hand looks too low to be a salute, but who knows! WWG1WGA
Back to salutes...
See CHAOS_ACTUAL
See the rest of the thread with my comments.
Also, Norman_F_Dixon
My answer here, and to the very first time that Norman asked the question, was: "POTUS."
Speaking of salutes...
We've already established that proper salute protocol is not always followed. Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, all while in civilian clothes, rendered salutes. Reagan is often credited with starting the trend, BUT there's evidence of Eisenhower doing it, perhaps this has something to do with my questions and theories about the military flags in the Oval Office... Ike started that too.
Truman and FDR most typically removed their hats and put them over their hearts. Very hard to find photos of either rendering salutes, but I did find a few. In addition to a playful returned salute to a child, there's another instance from Truman and one from FDR... granted, we assume the men in the photos are the real people, and it's not a hypothetical double making an oopsie a la Inglorious Basterds.
Interestingly starting with Truman, all future presidents until Obama and then Trump, had some type of prior military service. Also keep in mind, a former POTUS isn't exactly your typical civilian... he's a retired CiC, still gets secret service detail and state protection. Also the question over Executive Privilege has been talked about recently re: Trump and Obama... granted, constitutionally speaking, privilege only applies to matters WHILE in office.
So point is that protocol alone, tradition alone, doesn't exactly mean anything. Trump could have been breaking protocol. The salute could have been nothing. But it also could have meant everything. The scene was clearly set up, focused on and promoted with obvious purpose. Remember the scene of Bob Dole standing and saluting HW Bush at his funeral? That was turned into media gold. And who could ever forget arguably the most memorable salute in US History?
Norman brought up this helicopter scene many times. CHAOS also brought attention to it. Trump would only be initiating a salute to a higher authority, or a foreign diplomatic equivalent. My running theory has been that section 3 of the 25th had been trigger either around that time or perhaps even earlier, so Trump was saluting the new 46th POTUS, perhaps Pence, Grassley or Pompeo.
Cause the real POTUS is in the chopper 😯
Looking more into anything else that could be significant about Oct 5th.
Interestingly (or not), Oct 5th is the 278th day of the year (2+7+8=17=Q) or the 279th day for leap years (2+7+9=18=Q+).
Some media headlines:
https://theweek.com/10things/941692/10-things-need-know-today-october-5-2020
https://www.nytimes.com/issue/todaysheadlines/2020/10/05/todays-headlines
Historical events: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_5
I do agree that if some change of status occurred, it was at Walter Reed. Still can't stop thinking about this event, how it was staged up, the cameras set up for these perfect shots... the salute send off to the helicopter... Norman, CHAOS, others, were onto something. And Trump's remarks at Alamo Texas on Jan 12th 2021 regarding the 25th...
The pre-speech music selection was on fire... music is chosen INTENTIONALLY. Might need to more closely analyze the song list, but just triggers my spidy senses (the show HIMYM used music to drop so many hints about the endgame, which I figured out in the damn pilot episode and had to endure years of bashing to be vindicated)... also nice football jersey there fren
Starts talking about the 25th Amendment around timestamp 15:50 and finishes the word "Amendment" right at timestamp 15:56 (1+5+5+6=17).
Zero risk because if he's not POTUS, he couldn't be impeached anyway? Remember the media/Dems pushing the theory that he could be impeached "after leaving office"? Of course that went nowhere, because derp, can't be done, would be unconstitutional. The assumption of seemingly 99.999999% of the world was that Trump's warning to "Biden and the Biden administration" was prophetic to a future event in which Biden would be 25th'd and replaced by Harris. But how would that haunt the "Biden administration"? Would only be the removal of Biden, not the "administration." Some have [wrongly] speculated about a Trump return via Speaker and removal of Biden/Harris, BUT that would be via impeachment, NOT the 25th. So then how would a yet to be 25th'ing haunt Biden and the Biden administration? As my theory goes, it's because Trump already used it on himself for reasons yet to be definitively confirmed and explained. This isn't Trump predicting Biden being 25th'd. It's Trump top kek trolling Biden and the Biden administration because the prior usage of the 25th (Oct 5th or earlier) allowed for the Nov 3rd Sting Operation to proceed under the command of acting POTUS Pence + Chris Miller + Space Force... at least, that's my theory anyway... they wanted Trump 25th'd... and they got what they wished for, and it will have been the cause of their defeat.
He did salute as have others in the past, although that's always been breaking of military protocol (POTUS not to salute when in civilian dress). Returning a salute however, would be within protocol. It's been a while so I don't remember exactly, but check back through my comments re: salute protocol... posted about in a while back when CHAOS prompted the questions about the helicopter scene.
We SAW Trump acting with presidential authority... could always just be optics. There's no constituonal requirement to publicly disclose everything that is or isn't happening outside of the camera's view.
Yes, as we've gone over before, Pelosi would have had to be informed. I've already addressed that and the question about gained advantages multiple times. No need to rehash. Something still to consider is Pompeo's role in all of this... if Pelosi was controlled, it's also possible that if both Trump and Pence 25th'd (section 3) themselves, next down is Pelosi (controlled), Grassley, Pompeo. Grassley clearly still in Senate, so that would have been a pass (he didn't HAVE to accept the "promotion" after all). But boy has Pompeo been looking good and acting the part of president quite well... though, really he's been more a continued role of Sec of State... perhaps under POTUS Pence (or Trump)... several possibilities. Will be great to finally learn the truth behind everything
Was Pelosi told to push impeachment etc? Certainly possible.
Theory to make a difference would be to shield Trump from having any influence over or involvement with military operations, also shield from public view... optics are essential. Ensure that everything happens legally, by the book, in accordance with the Constitution, yet not tip off enemies or cause public chaos.
It's possible that he un-25th'd himself and resumed powers to sign EOs etc. Possible he triggered Section 3 multiple times. Again, also possible that his "signings" were just a show. In either case, not that important
Q = "Q" Q+ = DJT Q++ = Whoever was in the helicopter on Oct 5th 2020 Q+++ = the MAGA Patriot army... us
Amazing.
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