ugh my point is that you should look outside the box. And the box for you is the bible. Jesus has updated communications and because that communication is in a different form or isn't written in the bible it's dismissed as demonic or misleading on purpose. It's like arguing with someone who religiously watches CNN.
"A Course in Miracles: Based On The Original Handwritten Notes Of Helen Schucman--Complete & Annotated Edition"
I started reading this, there is no author, only a scribe. The Scribe only wrote down what the voice in her head was saying. The voice is jesus.
2000 pages and has daily exercises to learn how to perform miracles.
Ignore this or not, I put the information out there. Deep down we know when things are true or not. Here is a text example.
"Where could his freedom lie but in himself, if he is free already? And who could bind him but himself, if he deny his freedom? God is not mocked; no more His Son can be imprisoned, save by his own desire. And it is by his own desire that he is freed. Such is his strength and not his weakness. He is at his own mercy. And where he chooses to be merciful, there is he free. But where he chooses to condemn instead, there is he held a prisoner, awaiting in chains his pardon on himself to set him free."
"Why is it strange to you that faith can move mountains? This is indeed a little feat for such a power. For faith can keep the Son of God in chains, as long as he believes he is in chains."
"When you are tempted to believe that sin is real, remember this: If sin is real, both God and you are not. There is no choice but this. If creation is extension, the Creator must have extended Himself, and it is impossible that what is part of Him is totally unlike the rest. If sin is real, God must be at war within Himself. He must be split, and torn between good and evil; partly sane and partially insane. For He must have created what wills to destroy Him and has the power to do so. Is it not easier to believe that you have been mistaken than to believe in this?"
If you read this far, you have read updated communications from Jesus.
One of the biggest sins is giving oneself over to the rule of our fellow man< God said no. The world is living in sin that it is unaware of for not living in Faith is to have ones back turned to God.
Christ specifically speaks to this!
The laws are the 10 commandments and the Judge is the Father above. Breaking one of these laws is sin and would be considerable to waging war with God. Why, because God is within all! Jesus tells us this!
Effective slavery is one you do no know you are in. The Son of Man, Jesus called himself that, purposefully wore the chains to get others out of them. Think about it. He allowed himself into bondage so that those around him could see it, so that it would be documented, so that the laws of man might fall! He didn't break a single law, God's or man's and they still killed him. Used democracy to do it too!
I am not interested in the white washed channeled versions of I can make this or that happen with my mind. If I am to move any mountain it would be the one hoisted on the back of the most common man held in a bondage that he isn't even aware of!
They need us distracted so they can keep their power, influence and control.
He came in the flesh once already, why would he bother speaking through someone else when he knows how to be a human?
"The laws are the 10 commandments and the Judge is the Father above. Breaking one of these laws is sin and would be considerable to waging war with God. Why, because God is within all! Jesus tells us this!"
What kind of God can have war wagged on him? Your perspective is small and disempowering. War implies a chance to lose... lol come on. There is no war against God / Prime Creator. The idea that there is a war against god is a trick to fool you into chaining yourself up.
There are negatively oriented individuals, but they too will eventually return to Source. When you say there is war against god, you are peddling Satanic thinking. There is no war because there was never a chance for God to lose.
The only hell that exists is the one of your own creation in this existence. There is no such thing as death, you can lose your physical body but you never die.
The only Laws on this plant are Freewill and Karma.
To quickly explain Karma: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
There are no sins, the idea of sins is a satanic infiltration. But how do you know if something is "Good" or "Bad". You do something to someone and it feels "good" but to that person it feels "bad". How can you possibly know how that person feels unless you have that done to you.
Then karama comes around - "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and that same thing that made you feel good doing has been done to you. Now you understand how that truly feels, now dont do that to other people.
"What kind of God can have war wagged on him? Your perspective is small and disempowering. War implies a chance to lose... lol come on. There is no war against God / Prime Creator. The idea that there is a war against god is a trick to fool you into chaining yourself up."
Come now... It is quit obvious that you would lose against the creator, which is why he suggests not turning from him.
Read the 10 commandants and tell me how they do not lend to good karma, would it be possible to gain good karma if you didn't follow them? I do not think so.
Man has a tendency to chop shit up to make it something that can be sold. Karma is in the Bible, doing something negative/positive to another has consequences. Same with Faith. Someone can love you but if you truly believe that they hate you all that you will experience from them are things that make you reaffirm your belief that they hate you.
It is simply put in the Bible to be understood, man chopped it up and made it a feel good story, that could be SOLD!
If someone loved you and you hurt them you would expect some pain back, right?
Karma? Or God?
Y'all need to see the parallels between these. There were 12 tribes of israel, you think they all live together? They were split, tongue and all, from the whole and scattered.
They are all the same story! Only one offers it mostly for free though, more than others when you consider that the Bible is one of the most stolen items in the world. Almost like it was planned, cuz Jesus said if they are going to steal from you to let them. (how is that for filling up that karma portfolio.
The concept of Karma allows one to believe that they are "better" as well, which isn't the case in the slightest. We are all equal, another idea pushed by the Christ Jesus! All the good karma in the world doesn't make you better than someone with all the bad. It helps to support a class system, largely used in the past and into today to maintain dominance over their fellows.
Karma ends with death then, no? You kill someone you get killed back? That is exactly how it is working isn't it? All those murderers in Chicago done got murdered back so now they KNOW not to murder. There isn't much chance for redemption in that scenario. Repentance is realizing you fucked up and apologizing. If your karma were high enough you might not care to hurt this one or that one because, "I am a GOOD person!!!!" But you are not, only the Christ Jesus broke no Laws and can be considered Good. If you are Jesus then you are Golden, anyone else and oof!
You are not incorrect in saying that hell can be built, but only a mental construct in the flesh, lord knows what happens after and I doubt you want to be taking much negative karma with you to where ever you think we go.
Do unto others is also largely derived from the 10 commandments. And is a charge given by Christ Jesus himself.
Y'all are concerned with the wrong stuff.
When you understand that Jesus walked the earth to set us free from the bondage hoisted on us by our fellow men, our brothers! He spoke often that if he is with you the kingdom is at hand.
I suppose that there is nothing wrong with learning about karma the hard way, but we were given a map to follow to keep only good karma coming in and going out.
Jesus also said that you can ask for anything in his name of the Father and it would be given, without repercussion. Or you can just take what you want to have it taken from you later.
"Karma ends with death then, no? You kill someone you get killed back? That is exactly how it is working isn't it? All those murderers in Chicago done got murdered back so now they KNOW not to murder. There isn't much chance for redemption in that scenario."
No it doesn't, you have to reincarnate on this planet until you learn from your Karma. Again, there is no such thing as death, no one can get murdered.. they can lose their physical bodies but they never ever die. Karma isn't a punishment tool, it's a learning tool. If you truly understand and feel what you did was wrong and learned from it. It wont come back.
You are too deep in the illusion, this is not the real world, nothing real can ever die. Things like the 10 commandments are a trick to make you feel guilty. Sin is the ultimate ego trip and the cause of suffering.
Even them most 'evil' like Soros will eventually go back to God. You give too much power to what you call 'Evil', when you fear it, you give it power.
What you call "demons" actually need the most love. They are playing the game on hard mode +
That's why some would call this planet a prison planet. You make Karma hear and it's really tough to get out.
"Come now... It is quit obvious that you would lose against the creator, which is why he suggests not turning from him."
There is no losing, there is only experience. When you level up or return to Prime Creator, you bring the gifts of experience. The most negatively oriented beings provide valuable experience to Source....
"There are negatively oriented individuals, but they too will eventually return to Source. When you say there is war against god, you are peddling Satanic thinking. There is no war because there was never a chance for God to lose."
You are kind of right. God cannot lose, YOU CAN however and that isn't what is wanted.
ugh my point is that you should look outside the box. And the box for you is the bible. Jesus has updated communications and because that communication is in a different form or isn't written in the bible it's dismissed as demonic or misleading on purpose. It's like arguing with someone who religiously watches CNN.
"A Course in Miracles: Based On The Original Handwritten Notes Of Helen Schucman--Complete & Annotated Edition"
I started reading this, there is no author, only a scribe. The Scribe only wrote down what the voice in her head was saying. The voice is jesus.
2000 pages and has daily exercises to learn how to perform miracles.
Ignore this or not, I put the information out there. Deep down we know when things are true or not. Here is a text example.
"Where could his freedom lie but in himself, if he is free already? And who could bind him but himself, if he deny his freedom? God is not mocked; no more His Son can be imprisoned, save by his own desire. And it is by his own desire that he is freed. Such is his strength and not his weakness. He is at his own mercy. And where he chooses to be merciful, there is he free. But where he chooses to condemn instead, there is he held a prisoner, awaiting in chains his pardon on himself to set him free."
"Why is it strange to you that faith can move mountains? This is indeed a little feat for such a power. For faith can keep the Son of God in chains, as long as he believes he is in chains."
"When you are tempted to believe that sin is real, remember this: If sin is real, both God and you are not. There is no choice but this. If creation is extension, the Creator must have extended Himself, and it is impossible that what is part of Him is totally unlike the rest. If sin is real, God must be at war within Himself. He must be split, and torn between good and evil; partly sane and partially insane. For He must have created what wills to destroy Him and has the power to do so. Is it not easier to believe that you have been mistaken than to believe in this?"
If you read this far, you have read updated communications from Jesus.
One of the biggest sins is giving oneself over to the rule of our fellow man< God said no. The world is living in sin that it is unaware of for not living in Faith is to have ones back turned to God.
Christ specifically speaks to this!
The laws are the 10 commandments and the Judge is the Father above. Breaking one of these laws is sin and would be considerable to waging war with God. Why, because God is within all! Jesus tells us this!
Effective slavery is one you do no know you are in. The Son of Man, Jesus called himself that, purposefully wore the chains to get others out of them. Think about it. He allowed himself into bondage so that those around him could see it, so that it would be documented, so that the laws of man might fall! He didn't break a single law, God's or man's and they still killed him. Used democracy to do it too!
I am not interested in the white washed channeled versions of I can make this or that happen with my mind. If I am to move any mountain it would be the one hoisted on the back of the most common man held in a bondage that he isn't even aware of!
They need us distracted so they can keep their power, influence and control.
He came in the flesh once already, why would he bother speaking through someone else when he knows how to be a human?
"The laws are the 10 commandments and the Judge is the Father above. Breaking one of these laws is sin and would be considerable to waging war with God. Why, because God is within all! Jesus tells us this!"
What kind of God can have war wagged on him? Your perspective is small and disempowering. War implies a chance to lose... lol come on. There is no war against God / Prime Creator. The idea that there is a war against god is a trick to fool you into chaining yourself up.
There are negatively oriented individuals, but they too will eventually return to Source. When you say there is war against god, you are peddling Satanic thinking. There is no war because there was never a chance for God to lose.
The only hell that exists is the one of your own creation in this existence. There is no such thing as death, you can lose your physical body but you never die.
The only Laws on this plant are Freewill and Karma.
To quickly explain Karma: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
There are no sins, the idea of sins is a satanic infiltration. But how do you know if something is "Good" or "Bad". You do something to someone and it feels "good" but to that person it feels "bad". How can you possibly know how that person feels unless you have that done to you.
Then karama comes around - "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and that same thing that made you feel good doing has been done to you. Now you understand how that truly feels, now dont do that to other people.
"What kind of God can have war wagged on him? Your perspective is small and disempowering. War implies a chance to lose... lol come on. There is no war against God / Prime Creator. The idea that there is a war against god is a trick to fool you into chaining yourself up."
Come now... It is quit obvious that you would lose against the creator, which is why he suggests not turning from him.
Read the 10 commandants and tell me how they do not lend to good karma, would it be possible to gain good karma if you didn't follow them? I do not think so.
Man has a tendency to chop shit up to make it something that can be sold. Karma is in the Bible, doing something negative/positive to another has consequences. Same with Faith. Someone can love you but if you truly believe that they hate you all that you will experience from them are things that make you reaffirm your belief that they hate you.
It is simply put in the Bible to be understood, man chopped it up and made it a feel good story, that could be SOLD!
If someone loved you and you hurt them you would expect some pain back, right? Karma? Or God?
Y'all need to see the parallels between these. There were 12 tribes of israel, you think they all live together? They were split, tongue and all, from the whole and scattered.
They are all the same story! Only one offers it mostly for free though, more than others when you consider that the Bible is one of the most stolen items in the world. Almost like it was planned, cuz Jesus said if they are going to steal from you to let them. (how is that for filling up that karma portfolio.
The concept of Karma allows one to believe that they are "better" as well, which isn't the case in the slightest. We are all equal, another idea pushed by the Christ Jesus! All the good karma in the world doesn't make you better than someone with all the bad. It helps to support a class system, largely used in the past and into today to maintain dominance over their fellows.
Karma ends with death then, no? You kill someone you get killed back? That is exactly how it is working isn't it? All those murderers in Chicago done got murdered back so now they KNOW not to murder. There isn't much chance for redemption in that scenario. Repentance is realizing you fucked up and apologizing. If your karma were high enough you might not care to hurt this one or that one because, "I am a GOOD person!!!!" But you are not, only the Christ Jesus broke no Laws and can be considered Good. If you are Jesus then you are Golden, anyone else and oof!
You are not incorrect in saying that hell can be built, but only a mental construct in the flesh, lord knows what happens after and I doubt you want to be taking much negative karma with you to where ever you think we go.
Do unto others is also largely derived from the 10 commandments. And is a charge given by Christ Jesus himself.
Y'all are concerned with the wrong stuff.
When you understand that Jesus walked the earth to set us free from the bondage hoisted on us by our fellow men, our brothers! He spoke often that if he is with you the kingdom is at hand.
I suppose that there is nothing wrong with learning about karma the hard way, but we were given a map to follow to keep only good karma coming in and going out.
Jesus also said that you can ask for anything in his name of the Father and it would be given, without repercussion. Or you can just take what you want to have it taken from you later.
"Karma ends with death then, no? You kill someone you get killed back? That is exactly how it is working isn't it? All those murderers in Chicago done got murdered back so now they KNOW not to murder. There isn't much chance for redemption in that scenario."
No it doesn't, you have to reincarnate on this planet until you learn from your Karma. Again, there is no such thing as death, no one can get murdered.. they can lose their physical bodies but they never ever die. Karma isn't a punishment tool, it's a learning tool. If you truly understand and feel what you did was wrong and learned from it. It wont come back.
You are too deep in the illusion, this is not the real world, nothing real can ever die. Things like the 10 commandments are a trick to make you feel guilty. Sin is the ultimate ego trip and the cause of suffering.
Even them most 'evil' like Soros will eventually go back to God. You give too much power to what you call 'Evil', when you fear it, you give it power.
What you call "demons" actually need the most love. They are playing the game on hard mode +
That's why some would call this planet a prison planet. You make Karma hear and it's really tough to get out.
"Come now... It is quit obvious that you would lose against the creator, which is why he suggests not turning from him."
There is no losing, there is only experience. When you level up or return to Prime Creator, you bring the gifts of experience. The most negatively oriented beings provide valuable experience to Source....
"There are negatively oriented individuals, but they too will eventually return to Source. When you say there is war against god, you are peddling Satanic thinking. There is no war because there was never a chance for God to lose."
You are kind of right. God cannot lose, YOU CAN however and that isn't what is wanted.
It's more complicated, but no, sooner of later we ALL come back to god.
You can separate yourself from God as much as you want, but at the end we are all connected.
Everything is made out of the same thing... God.