I’ve got a years worth and more of food. I don’t know about water though. I live one the beach in Florida and fresh water is non existent. I wonder if they are going to shut off water at all. They are draining some reservoirs across the country. They are “repairing” one near me that they have lowered. I call BS on the repair since there is zero construction equipment near the dam.
Learn to distill water using two metal containers and some copper tubing (coiled in the center) and you have all the drinking water you could ever need living on the beach. Boil the water in one of the metal containers and you'll collect pure distilled drinking water in the other one. Just make sure to take supplements since the distilled water you make will be void of any vital minerals and electrolytes.
If you don't have access to fire wood you can use a large fresnel lense or parabolic mirror to heat the water using the power of the sun.
Those fresnel lenses work great. I use to remove them from the old large screen parabolic TVs. My son and I made a frame for it and mounted it one an adjustable stand. We use to melt bolts and stacks of pennies. When the sun is shining, a fresnel lens is pretty powerful. We could start any camp fire in a matter of seconds using only logs. Even on overcast days, we could get enough light to focus to start a fire.
Those green power science people have a youtube channel where they cook on a cast iron pan with fresnel and also parabolic lenses. They're pretty damn powerful. On one of their videos they mention that boiling 5 gallons of water requires something like 25 times more energy to boil than 1 gallon so depending on his needs it may or may not be cost effective for BOL86 to use the fresnel lenses.
A fresnel lens is what use to be found in light houses. There's an interesting history to them. Anyway, you're correct in stating water takes a lot of energy to heat. Water holds its heat better than any natural substance there is. It's slow to heat and its slow to cool. This is what provides us seasons and climates.
I've seen these fresnal lens ovens being sold on the internet. I don't know how effective they are. To me, a very pointed heat source like that of a fresnal lens is ineffective compared to a distributed heat source from say a propane burner or a wood fire.
Yeah the main issue with using them to cook with is that you need the focal point in front of the pan so the heating area is large enough to not cause a hotspot. This reduces it's heating capability. They work good on cast iron cookware though.
You don't even need a copper tube condenser. Just a tube, any tube, running from the boiler top to the collector. The steam will condense in any vessel on its own. It could even be a flat plate set an angle above of boiling pan. Steam will condense on the plate surface and run off into a container below it.
Yup, good ideas. It's good to get the ole noggin going to improvise with what's available.
I always recommend copper tubing for its durability and because you can bend it easily to whatever shape you need.
You can also use a pot within a pot with the lid for the larger pot placed on backwards and let the condensed water slide down the lid and into the smaller pot in the middle. This is good for smaller quantities of water.
Exactly. It's too easy to get caught up in one way to do something which may restrict thinking about good alternatives. Pot lid is a perfect example. A flat plate or pot lid nowhere as efficient as a copper condenser tube but will work and will provide distilled water just more slowly.
I got the still idea down. I used to make whiskey. But energy is going to be a bitch. I was looking into solar ovens. Palm trees and mangrove don’t burn well.
Nice! Yeah finding stuff to burn where you're located is gonna be hard that's why I recommended the fresnel lenses. But depending on your needs, they may not suffice. Good luck fren!
Farmers have been paid not to grow certain crops for decades. That is how the government manipulates the price of wholesale grains.
Farmers have had to waste millions of gallons of milk when the prices drop too low.
Farmers have been manipulated into growing crops that we don't need, so cronies in the Gov could get rich. Think ethanol. Absolutely stupid. Ethanol uses more energy to produce than it provides, and it will ruin your automobile engine.
Stop fear mongering.
True! I know a farmer who always stated that it cost him more in fuel to raise the corn than the corn produced! He knew exactly what it took him to raise his crops. Corn is a very inefficient crop for Ethanol. You only get one crop a year. There are other plants that can be used that produce several crops a year. It is all manipulated with Goverment interference.
Hardest hit will be Africa & the Middle East. They rely on imports. For what they do grow they will be restricted on fertilizer unless they are on Russia's approved list. Prices will rise in North America but we won't see shortages across the board. Between Canada, Mexico, and USA we are flush with food and fertilizer. It's everyone who relies on Russia/Ukraine that's fucked. In the end I really doubt Russia won't begin exporting fertilizer again. The price is so high now they'd be nuts not to reap the windfall from that.
Because lately their plans don't seem to be working out all like they had hoped.
"We were shooting for 20 million dead from starvation and the entire middle class subsisting off of nothing but Soros Bug Bars, but somehow ended up with $0.47 steaks and $1 pints of Guinness. And I don't even know how the brownie subsidies happened."
I’ve got a years worth and more of food. I don’t know about water though. I live one the beach in Florida and fresh water is non existent. I wonder if they are going to shut off water at all. They are draining some reservoirs across the country. They are “repairing” one near me that they have lowered. I call BS on the repair since there is zero construction equipment near the dam.
Learn to distill water using two metal containers and some copper tubing (coiled in the center) and you have all the drinking water you could ever need living on the beach. Boil the water in one of the metal containers and you'll collect pure distilled drinking water in the other one. Just make sure to take supplements since the distilled water you make will be void of any vital minerals and electrolytes.
If you don't have access to fire wood you can use a large fresnel lense or parabolic mirror to heat the water using the power of the sun.
https://greenpowerscience.com/
These guys are in Florida too.
Those fresnel lenses work great. I use to remove them from the old large screen parabolic TVs. My son and I made a frame for it and mounted it one an adjustable stand. We use to melt bolts and stacks of pennies. When the sun is shining, a fresnel lens is pretty powerful. We could start any camp fire in a matter of seconds using only logs. Even on overcast days, we could get enough light to focus to start a fire.
Awesome, I’m going to look into that for sure.
Those green power science people have a youtube channel where they cook on a cast iron pan with fresnel and also parabolic lenses. They're pretty damn powerful. On one of their videos they mention that boiling 5 gallons of water requires something like 25 times more energy to boil than 1 gallon so depending on his needs it may or may not be cost effective for BOL86 to use the fresnel lenses.
A fresnel lens is what use to be found in light houses. There's an interesting history to them. Anyway, you're correct in stating water takes a lot of energy to heat. Water holds its heat better than any natural substance there is. It's slow to heat and its slow to cool. This is what provides us seasons and climates.
I've seen these fresnal lens ovens being sold on the internet. I don't know how effective they are. To me, a very pointed heat source like that of a fresnal lens is ineffective compared to a distributed heat source from say a propane burner or a wood fire.
Nice info on the light houses.
Yeah the main issue with using them to cook with is that you need the focal point in front of the pan so the heating area is large enough to not cause a hotspot. This reduces it's heating capability. They work good on cast iron cookware though.
Noice noice. Thanks for the ideas.
You don't even need a copper tube condenser. Just a tube, any tube, running from the boiler top to the collector. The steam will condense in any vessel on its own. It could even be a flat plate set an angle above of boiling pan. Steam will condense on the plate surface and run off into a container below it.
Yup, good ideas. It's good to get the ole noggin going to improvise with what's available.
I always recommend copper tubing for its durability and because you can bend it easily to whatever shape you need.
You can also use a pot within a pot with the lid for the larger pot placed on backwards and let the condensed water slide down the lid and into the smaller pot in the middle. This is good for smaller quantities of water.
Exactly. It's too easy to get caught up in one way to do something which may restrict thinking about good alternatives. Pot lid is a perfect example. A flat plate or pot lid nowhere as efficient as a copper condenser tube but will work and will provide distilled water just more slowly.
I got the still idea down. I used to make whiskey. But energy is going to be a bitch. I was looking into solar ovens. Palm trees and mangrove don’t burn well.
Nice! Yeah finding stuff to burn where you're located is gonna be hard that's why I recommended the fresnel lenses. But depending on your needs, they may not suffice. Good luck fren!
I checked those out, they look really cool I’m buying one for sure.
Buy? BUY? Keep checking craigslist for older projection & DLP TVs for free.
Every week there are a couple around me.
Very Nice! Hope it works for your needs.
We've been calling this out since we got wind of them forcing farmers to destroy significant portions of their crops. AKA for two years now.
People need to pay attention.
Farmers have been paid not to grow certain crops for decades. That is how the government manipulates the price of wholesale grains. Farmers have had to waste millions of gallons of milk when the prices drop too low. Farmers have been manipulated into growing crops that we don't need, so cronies in the Gov could get rich. Think ethanol. Absolutely stupid. Ethanol uses more energy to produce than it provides, and it will ruin your automobile engine. Stop fear mongering.
Iowa Corn Mafia
True! I know a farmer who always stated that it cost him more in fuel to raise the corn than the corn produced! He knew exactly what it took him to raise his crops. Corn is a very inefficient crop for Ethanol. You only get one crop a year. There are other plants that can be used that produce several crops a year. It is all manipulated with Goverment interference.
Not planning, creating
Food will become insanely expensive .
Hardest hit will be Africa & the Middle East. They rely on imports. For what they do grow they will be restricted on fertilizer unless they are on Russia's approved list. Prices will rise in North America but we won't see shortages across the board. Between Canada, Mexico, and USA we are flush with food and fertilizer. It's everyone who relies on Russia/Ukraine that's fucked. In the end I really doubt Russia won't begin exporting fertilizer again. The price is so high now they'd be nuts not to reap the windfall from that.
Well, thank goodness, then.
Because lately their plans don't seem to be working out all like they had hoped.
"We were shooting for 20 million dead from starvation and the entire middle class subsisting off of nothing but Soros Bug Bars, but somehow ended up with $0.47 steaks and $1 pints of Guinness. And I don't even know how the brownie subsidies happened."
They are trying to catch the first wave of inflation and trickle down the higher price tag to you.
u/#cmon