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NanoKhuma 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd find the concept suspect, since the main method of control via that angle was keeping the actual writings in Latin to keep the commoners from directly reading it for the longest time. If it was supposed to be tainted or corrupted, then why bother keeping it out of the hands of commoners?

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Yeetthedems 1 point ago +2 / -1

What I have personally experienced through a relationship with the Father can’t be explained or mimicked, there’s a reason why Jesus said the world would hate us because we want to follow Him. Following Jesus makes you an enemy of the world.

The enemy doesn’t care what you do as long as it’s rejecting Christ.

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SuckaFree 1 point ago +2 / -1

We're only targets because right now, and for the last 6,000+ yrs, the fleshly realm has been Lucifer's dominion.

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SuckaFree 1 point ago +2 / -1

He didn't say he was playing by [their] rules. It's pretty obvious [they] hate the Holy Trinity. Otherwise, the current Pope wouldn't be trying so hard to convince people that when Jesus ascended to Heaven, that he actually became the Serpent from the Scriptures.

And David Icke, no matter how you or anyone else around here may feel about him, wouldn't be saying the current "God" of this realm is the Demiurge, without [their] taint on that narrative.

Sounds like you need to do a little more research, bub.

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Narg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Solid, thoughtful post. Yes, the Church isn't Jesus. Quite a few churches aren't -- appearances aside -- even Christian.

My approach since childhood has been to ignore the church and for that matter, most of the Bible, some of which (especially in the Old Testament) is cruel enough that Jesus himself opposed it (John 8:7 . . . He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her).

Jesus taught kindness. Love, compassion, brotherhood -- call it what you will.

Everything flows from that. EVERYTHING: respect for others, willingness to sacrifice when necessary, personal responsibility, charity, honesty, protection of the weak and the young -- every good and necessary element in human life comes from love and suffers from its lack.

Two more verses from John make the point, and include Jesus' OWN definition of who his disciples are:

John: 
13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. 


13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

Believe in whatever you want - personally, inwardly and on your own terms.

That's a great line right there, fren. When people take Jesus' admonition to carry love in their hearts, their inner life changes; the healthy side is reinforced and the words of long-dead strangers and present-day preachers are evaluated in light of the need for kindness. We learn best what we come to from our own earnest thoughts and honest feelings.

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Narg 1 point ago +1 / -0

written after the events in question and has been under control of the controllers the entire time.

Of COURSE the Bible was written long after the events; no direct recording tech was available so it can be nothing but hearsay, then written down by people who had their own agendas (who doesn't), then translated into English by another group with THEIR own agendas.

We don't know for certain what happened yesterday so I don't make the mistake of thinking something written thousands of years ago is accurate. It might be a reasonably close description of events but it might not. I'm not someone who believes every word in the Bible was written by an infallible God.

There's enough similarity in the VOICE and content of Jesus' words in the New Testament (well, until Revelations, when a jarring change of voice occurs) to persuade me that much of what is reported of Jesus' words might actually be from one man and close to his meaning. The need for kindness and love comes through strongly.

Since I PERSONALLY believe (from experience and from years of study; for example, see the ACE Study on Adverse Childhood Experiences for how early trauma creates life-long harm) that love and kindness are the most important key to a healthy life and a healthy society -- I find Jesus' teachings in that regard to be important -- all the moreso because people have been reading them and trying to live by them for millennia now. Even with all the corruption we've seen in the various churches over the centuries, the narrative Jesus left us has survived and people continue to believe in its importance. I find organized Christianity a very mixed bag, but much of what Jesus' has to say (yes, see above: might have said, etc) is profound, simple to understand, and speaks deeply to any decent person. It's a message that has been carried down through time (and not only from Jesus or in the Bible) because love / brotherhood / connection to others is what we are made for; it is the meaning of life at the deepest level.

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ViaToil 0 points ago +1 / -1

Well, they have infiltrated every religion so yes? I do understand that they have managed to both, cut out every part of the bible that they do not want people to hear/know and wont allow people to even see much of it.. So, yes they have manipulated it.

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NanaQ45 0 points ago +1 / -1

I came to believe in Christ and, I believe, with discernment and the addition of older, formerly Canon, books like the Dead Sea scrolls, we can come to some pretty reasonable conclusions about who, where, when, and why....I consider myself a Christian but I wouldn't be caught dead in any of these compromised churches. The seminaries were, obviously, the first place the infiltration began. The Rapture doctrine has crippled Christians into acquiescing to evil and tyranny. God has an army of Christian soldiers, teeheeheee, we're just NOT where anyone thinks we are. Lol. We are the new Christians and look out because we are smart, awake, and full of righteous anger.

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NanaQ45 0 points ago +1 / -1

Whatever dude. Apparently, you're not as secure in your beliefs as you'd like to be or you wouldn't feel this need to justify. I don't care what you think or believe, because, at the end of the day, we all meet our maker alone. Good luck.

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NanaQ45 0 points ago +1 / -1

I disobey constantly. That's the whole point. I answer to no man. Period. I do what my heart and soul tells me. I've got good contact.

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NanaQ45 0 points ago +1 / -1

I do agree none of it can be trusted, but my gut and discernment can. I had none and now I have tons. Not me. Proof is in the pudding and I stand with my heart.

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SuckaFree 0 points ago +1 / -1

Millenia, actually. Roughly 6 Millennia, to be exact.

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