That is where the stockpiling food thing does not seem that feasible to me. Like if it really gets to the point where there is no food for anyone to buy anymore, then society is kind of over, isn’t it? At that point, would hunkering down in a basement with supplies be the best move? Wouldn’t it be better to load up a vehicle and flee the city - just to try to put distance between yourself and the collapse? Or would there be military checkpoints between states? Would all the highways be blocked? Or if everyone is scattering in every direction, would the military even be able to stop it?
I don’t know, it just seems to me that being light and mobile with two to three days worth of beef jerky and water is the way to go. Priority is avoiding the mob, wherever it goes, and acquiring additional food in two to three day increments. The whole hunkering down in one place with a year’s worth of food only works if nobody knows who or where you are. And even then how many people in a starving mob could you reasonably defend against? A hundred? A thousand? A million? Eventually the starving mob would win.
I'm taking out anyone in my way or until they take me out. There is no "law and order" once food is gone. It's "If you have it and don't have a gun. It's mine."...On every leftist I know of lol
The issue with that is you are up against dozens or more people who are desperate.
I think roving scavengers would be a huge problem in some sort of end times event. Unless you were able to have armed guards protecting you and your property 24/7/365 I would think at some point someone would just take your supplies and maybe kill you in the process.
I think there is a lot of fantasy machismo that goes on when people imagine themselves defending their property. But they never think of the desperation of people starving or parents with starving children.
You're right. But that's not what I meant. I meant if shit hits the fan, the leftists around me (and there are a lot) are going to have their shit taken by me as they all oppose firearms and weapons in general lol
My feeling is that if there is a nationwide food shortage/cut off, people would get by for a few days on normal home supplies, in a few more days people would start getting hungry, a few more days after that people would be desperate and start breaking into places in search of food, but they would be weak. A few days after that, the only people with food would be scattered hoarders, and if they are also armed, would be able to defend themselves. Roving gangs would be hungry, because they would have been in the group who didn't hoard, and had been hungry for quite a while, so their ability to find significant, un-armed, places for raiding would be limited, and I think even they would get starved out, unless they found some lucky cache of food that was unprotected. This would leave only the hoarders, with defense, left. But the real question is, who, other than the real hard-core hoarders, would have enough food to last more than a month or two? (wild game and wild plants would be the only real food source unless you had a self-sufficient farm)
The thing with fleeing is eventually you'll run out of places to go. Naturally you'll want to go near farmers. If you don't know a farmer by now I'd try to build a relationship with a few. If shit hits the fan you may have an area to go to that has food and water and other people to have a small community semi off the grid.
Makes me think of that meme that said something like cif city folk run out of food will harass farmers. The response is you know they talk about what gun are best 😅
That is where the stockpiling food thing does not seem that feasible to me. Like if it really gets to the point where there is no food for anyone to buy anymore, then society is kind of over, isn’t it? At that point, would hunkering down in a basement with supplies be the best move? Wouldn’t it be better to load up a vehicle and flee the city - just to try to put distance between yourself and the collapse? Or would there be military checkpoints between states? Would all the highways be blocked? Or if everyone is scattering in every direction, would the military even be able to stop it?
I don’t know, it just seems to me that being light and mobile with two to three days worth of beef jerky and water is the way to go. Priority is avoiding the mob, wherever it goes, and acquiring additional food in two to three day increments. The whole hunkering down in one place with a year’s worth of food only works if nobody knows who or where you are. And even then how many people in a starving mob could you reasonably defend against? A hundred? A thousand? A million? Eventually the starving mob would win.
I'm taking out anyone in my way or until they take me out. There is no "law and order" once food is gone. It's "If you have it and don't have a gun. It's mine."...On every leftist I know of lol
The issue with that is you are up against dozens or more people who are desperate.
I think roving scavengers would be a huge problem in some sort of end times event. Unless you were able to have armed guards protecting you and your property 24/7/365 I would think at some point someone would just take your supplies and maybe kill you in the process.
I think there is a lot of fantasy machismo that goes on when people imagine themselves defending their property. But they never think of the desperation of people starving or parents with starving children.
You're right. But that's not what I meant. I meant if shit hits the fan, the leftists around me (and there are a lot) are going to have their shit taken by me as they all oppose firearms and weapons in general lol
Gotcha. I completely misunderstood what you were saying. My bad. 😊
Yup. This is the plot of 'Soylent Green'. Charlton Heston with a .50 cal on his house shooting at Anthony Zerbe and his starving friends.
I only vaguely remember the movie. Basically just him screaming "Soylent Green is people!" at the end.
I just looked up the plot to remind myself of the details and saw it's set in 2022.
At least we seem to have dodged that bullet. 😁
My feeling is that if there is a nationwide food shortage/cut off, people would get by for a few days on normal home supplies, in a few more days people would start getting hungry, a few more days after that people would be desperate and start breaking into places in search of food, but they would be weak. A few days after that, the only people with food would be scattered hoarders, and if they are also armed, would be able to defend themselves. Roving gangs would be hungry, because they would have been in the group who didn't hoard, and had been hungry for quite a while, so their ability to find significant, un-armed, places for raiding would be limited, and I think even they would get starved out, unless they found some lucky cache of food that was unprotected. This would leave only the hoarders, with defense, left. But the real question is, who, other than the real hard-core hoarders, would have enough food to last more than a month or two? (wild game and wild plants would be the only real food source unless you had a self-sufficient farm)
The thing with fleeing is eventually you'll run out of places to go. Naturally you'll want to go near farmers. If you don't know a farmer by now I'd try to build a relationship with a few. If shit hits the fan you may have an area to go to that has food and water and other people to have a small community semi off the grid.
Makes me think of that meme that said something like cif city folk run out of food will harass farmers. The response is you know they talk about what gun are best 😅