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Not Trying to Believe, I PROMISE 🌎 WWG1WGAWW 🌍
posted ago by FractalizingIron ago by FractalizingIron +44 / -2

This is a response to the Not Trying to Doom, I PROMISE post, in three parts:

One, how active is DJT?

Two, why was that post stickied?

Three, Q said "only at the precipice..." quoting a film (The Day the Earth Stood Still). Question: Things are bad. Is this really necessary?


One, how active is DJT?

I feel like all he's done is work for us since the election was stolen from him. He could have ridden off into the sunset but instead he's holding rallies, endorsing candidates, and essentially running the country behind the scenes via devolution and shadow government. And this is just what we know about. Have faith, fren. (anon #3, to OP)

Well, I guess the OP is querying the last part there. If he IS running the country, and to some extent that's still speculation. Solid, grounded, logical speculation, but speculation nonetheless.

But at a minimum, what you say is right on target: Holding rallies, endorsing candidates. Not to mention, continually posting into the public sphere with his Trump Office releases.

These are no small things. What other "ex-president" ever did these things, to the level that DJT is doing it? The man is still highly engaged in the political, cultural and morale experience of the country. That's unprecedented, from what I can see.

See original thread for other (excellent) replies.


Two, why was that post stickied?

I'd hate to see what you consider dooming if this is what you consider to be not dooming. (anon #1, to OP)

My only question is: why the fuck is this bullshit doomer post STICKIED? Are the mods just begging us to leave GAW for TS and never come back? (anon #2, to anon #1)

Up until recently, I would have had a similar reaction. I've reacted to a bunch of stickies, querying the rationale behind the stick, in cases, for example, of obviously fake stories.

Some mods answered my objections.

It looks like sometimes stickies are made by some mods to raise attention to a post. In other words, it's not necessarily an endorsement of the post, nor is it a "Notable" affirmation. Rather, in some cases, it's a "eyes on" and/or "Let's respond to this".

In this case, I think it's a valid query. Why? Because the query makes sense? No. Because the query or sentiment expressed is based, grounded or solid? No.

But this IS a sentiment that some pedes experience. Particularly, newbie pedes, or maybe exhausted pedes.

IMO, we need to build a community culture where we see a good-hearted but exhausted or confused pede, and we help them get over their doom, or their funk or their confusion. We can only really do that if such expressions are not ignored, or censored, or censured, but rather made visible, and responded to.

Solidarity is important, and as long as the poster is not a deep dark doomer, or a shill, or a plant, then I think we benefit by addressing some of these types of concerns.

Maybe that's one reason why this got stickied.....


Three: Things are bad. Is (the precipice) really necessary?

lol you are complaining when Q said himself the US and world will have to literally be on the brink of death. You are not there yet but you will be and its going pretty fast. (anon #4, to OP)

Is waiting until the brink of death generally a sound strategy? Do you hold off treating cancer until the last moment? Do you avoid swerving out of the way of something in your traffic lane until the absolute last minute? (anon #5, to anon #4)

I'd challenge (anon #4's) interpretation that the world "will have to literally be on the brink of death". I guess one could argue that this is what the precipice means, but....

When I think about this situation, I reflect on a bunch of different factors in reaching my conclusions, including:

  • War.

War is hard, tough, and people suffer. War is NOT about avoiding casualties as much as possible. Otherwise, surrender would always seem an option. War is about winning, even if it means sacrifice, death and suffering, because NOT winning the war would result in something far, far worse. (talking about righteous war here, between good and evil, nto war for the purpose of conquest). Some pedes look around them and see the suffering, death and difficulties, and they start to imagine that it's actually unnecessary, or avoidable. In my view, they are ignoring the truth that this is a war. A war on which the entire future of the human race and world depends, at that.

  • Game theory.

I think about how the military intelligence would have access to the absolute highest levels of computing power and game theory practitioners, etc. I imagine how they ran hundreds and thousands of scenarios, imagining, discussing, analyzing, applying game theory. I imagine that they did all that analysis and concluded: "we have to go this way. This is the best, least damaging way forward that has the best chance of winning." I trust that they did the hard work, that they did the analysis. At some point, we have to trust our military, and those who stand in positions of responsibility. Not because they will never make mistakes, but because a) they carry a responsibility that we ourselves probably could never handle (because if we could, we would be in their position) and b) we have to trust God, and in doing so, trust them. Trust that God is guiding them.

  • History.

Historically, for MOST of human history, there have been generations that suffered far, far worse than we are now suffering. Are people starving? People in the past have died from starving year after year. Are people freezing to death? Are people being shelled, and attacked, and shot at or invaded by marauders? Historically, the suffering most of us are experiencing is very small by comparison, except only for this:


Perspective: the suffering most of us are experiencing is a psychological, emotional and spiritual suffering. THAT is the nature of suffering today. It's being duped, mislead, feeling that so much is at stake, and yet Evil is so great, etc.

So, we should not really deny that suffering is there. But we should be thankful that externally, it's nowhere near as bad as most generations that suffered previously. At the same time, we need to understand that because this is the final war between good and evil, the cross we must carry is an internal one, of the heart, of the spirit, and of the mind. But we should also understand that it's this way for an important reason. Would we prefer that our children, or our children's children suffer this, or we?

This is a spiritual war. Our minds are the battlefield, and our state of mind, and heart, are the deciding factors that determine our actions or inaction.

Solidarity is important, but so is belief, faith. Not blind faith, not doubting faith, but faith with knowledge, understanding, evidence and logic.

Conclusion: I'm trying not to believe, really. But I cannot help it. Too much knowledge, evidence, confirmations, logic and understanding, now. See you on the battlefield, pepe.


Note: 'sorry, trying not to believe' is a rhetorical comment. I'm not actually trying NOT to believe.