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scolai 63 points ago +64 / -1

This exposes two things:

  1. The vax isn't safe or effective.

  2. HIV isn't the cause of AIDS.

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Scorpion76 34 points ago +34 / -0

And the FDA dam well knew that the safety and efficacy was well below what is required to issue an EUA!

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yeldarb1983 22 points ago +22 / -0

...at the very least, it's not the only cause of aids...

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PepeSee 8 points ago +18 / -10
  1. HIV isn't the ONLY cause of AIDS.

HIV denialism is as dumb as Covid-19 virus denialism....

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scolai 22 points ago +27 / -5

Here we go again with the "denialism" nonsense again.

Please point out where I denied the existence of HIV or AIDS. I just denied the connection between the two. One cannot claim the HIV causes AIDS if there are people with AIDS who do not test positive for HIV. Furthermore, I haven't personally met anyone who denies the existence of Covid, but rather they like to point out that Covid kills about as many yearly as do the flu and pneumonia. It's not that it's not real, but it is extremely overhyped.

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Sunshines09 12 points ago +14 / -2

I have actually met someone who very aggressively denies that COVID exists. They feel a need to remind me of this every time I see them.

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KimJung-Un 9 points ago +17 / -8

Why are you under the impression that "covid19" is real? Are you actually under the belief that "covid19" came and the flu disappeared? Are you also under the impression that "covid19" just happened to match the exact YOY average flu numbers but was not a flu? lmao. Some of you guys are hilarious.

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Sunshines09 12 points ago +12 / -0

This is usually said by people who have never had it. As someone who had it and watched my family go through it, it's absolutely nothing like the flu.

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BattleBornMama 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yep- It is real and it is a bioweapon. It reactivated my EBV and after 5 months I'm finally almost better. The horrid symptoms changed everyday in my acute phase which was super weird. It was like nothing I'd ever experienced with any other virus. My whole family had mild symptoms. I was probably in the best shape of my life also.

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KimJung-Un 3 points ago +5 / -2

I got both Alpha and Omicron. No symptoms with Alpha and you can check my post history as I described what happened during omicron. It was nothing like the flu, you're right. The flu fucked me up and omicron was discomfort. My father who got omicron 2 weeks after triple bypass heart surgery got a runny nose. My mother who gave her kidney to my immunosuppressed brother got no symptoms. My immunosuppressed brother got a runny nose and a cough for a week. I've seen the flu knock them off their asses.

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Sunshines09 1 point ago +2 / -1

So you're also under the impression that COVID 19 is real an is not like the flu.

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portuguesemama123 8 points ago +8 / -0

my husband and I occasionally have this conversation. He says no, I say yes. But it's semantics really. We agree that something makes people sick enough to die and the medical community is not interested in accurately identifying or curing what that actual things is. What else matters?

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OriginalRealityCheck 20 points ago +20 / -0

What made them die in droves was the mis-use of respirators set on full high pressure instead of only as high as required (about 20 %).

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MissMagaMillenial 19 points ago +19 / -0

And the administration of remdesivir

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7Nick9 6 points ago +6 / -0

Most if not all died in hospitals so that may or may not be revelent.

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VetforTrump 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly and the remdisavir. Doctors Killed a good friend of mine with it.

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SoMuchWinning45 3 points ago +3 / -0

It will kill you anyway if you don't get the fluid out of the lungs.

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portuguesemama123 1 point ago +1 / -0

to a lesser extent, refusal to treat early probably added to the body count.

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Godisgloryy 6 points ago +7 / -1

I had whatever it is in July 2020 and April this year. I think it is spread by the air in 2020 and 2022 by people who are vaccinated. Of course I took ivermectin plus severe nquil and a lot of chicken soup and the protocol and multivitamins and I am getting better Thanks to God

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VetforTrump 6 points ago +6 / -0

Fear is the virus.

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portuguesemama123 1 point ago +1 / -0

oi... well, thanks be to God you are getting better!

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rupedoggydawg 4 points ago +4 / -0

I will say what I had was not the typical flu. Almost killed me. There is definitely something they released. The taste and smell thing caused me to lose almost 20 pounds and oxygen dropped in the 80s. Took ivermectin, quercetin, zinc and a Z-Pack. Z pack is what cleared my lungs and got me better.

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KimJung-Un 1 point ago +2 / -1

What do you mean "not the typical flu"? The flu is a massive killer each year. Just cause you hadn't experienced it in the form you experienced it in doesn't mean it's not the typical flu. When I was 16 I had the flu and it almost killed me. I was bed ridden for a week, lost 15lbs, couldn't speak and barely move and was sent to ER. Prior and after that, whenever I caught the flu it was mild or really shitty but not deadly

The flu is no joke. Not sure why people all of a sudden assume because what they got this year wasn't the typical experience that somehow it wasn't the flu.

And if they did release something, it magically matched flu numbers while they also magically declared flu died while covid identically replaced it lool

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rupedoggydawg 2 points ago +2 / -0

For two years I tried to get it. Finally did on Thanksgiving day. Say what you will, but what I had was not the flu. I'm almost 50, and pretty fit, and never get the flu shot. Had the flu many times in my life, but this was unlike anything I experienced. I know they fucked with flu numbers, but they also released something. My fiancee got it the day after me with less symptoms, kids never got it.

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LordLag1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Believe me I"m not asking for any kind of sympathy but... My brother died of Covid it shut down his lungs. We kept him off the went as long as possible but his oxygen got to the point he was going to die anyways. This was before Remsdivir he got it in mid April 20 and was dead by 5/6.

I and my whole family also got Covid last September. Most likely Delta. That shit ran through all 4 of us, from my 9 year old, 17 year old, and me and my wife. Everyone of us got sick but I got it really bad. Was with a 104 fever while stacking Advil and Tylenol. Smell was 100% gone, felt like I was made of led when I moved, and got a cough and shortness of breath like nothing else in my life. I was on HCQ and IVR at the same time. This is real. I don't want to hear about Omni which is the weak cousin of the original and Delta strains. Strait bio-weapon.

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Cornpop_Henchman 7 points ago +7 / -0

Certificate of Vaxx ID*

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oceanside13 6 points ago +7 / -1

I think the confusion with people who are covid deniers is that there has been discussions in alt media that covid 19 has never been isolated. Court cases have been won due to this fact. I have friends who use that as evidence. Thats all fine and great but I had it bad. It was the most sick I have ever been. Never in my life have I been laid out for over 2 weeks.

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Sunshines09 5 points ago +5 / -0

Absolutely this. I had it. My whole family had it. It's very different than any other illness.

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VetforTrump 3 points ago +4 / -1

That which I feared has come upon me, that which I feared has come unto me.

It's all fear and the sniffles made worse by negative believing nd conditioning

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VetforTrump 4 points ago +4 / -0

Find me any documented source where they isolated a covid 19 molecule. Even one.

An entire province in Canada lifted restrictions because when in court a demand was made for a sample of the virus to be produced and the medically scientific fact that any supposed positively infected person with active transmission still possible could produce a sample.

Millions of supposed people who had covid and no sample. A pcr test that the developer himself said would not id Covid19. The test parameters ran them at 40 cycles, the pcr manual itself states a 95 percent false positive at that rate Nd then add the fact it doesn't find covid anyway and you have zero proof of even one single case.

If you want to make the leap it exist then go ahead. But, I'll just say, psyops works exactly this way and the plan was the JAB.

There is no covid except for those who took the shot. And what they are getting is worse than covid.

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PepeSee -1 points ago +1 / -2

"I just denied the connection between the two."

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scolai 1 point ago +2 / -1

"HIV denialism"

Once again, I am not saying HIV does not exist. I am also not saying AIDS does not exist. I'm saying they're not related. I suppose you could call that denialism if you want, but you'll have to continue that argument by yourself.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +2 / -1

"HIV denialism" isn't just denying the virus exists at all, it's denying it causes AIDS.

I'm not arguing.

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Munchaussen 4 points ago +4 / -0

There are people with full blown AIDS that do not have the HIV antibodies.

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PepeSee 2 points ago +3 / -1

Sure, but all that says is there are OTHER things that can bring about the condition - such as mRNA vaccines, as it turns out.

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KimJung-Un -6 points ago +6 / -12

You're a retard. Why? Because only a retard would consider covid19 was real while simultaneously believing the flu disappeared while also believing that one was not the other. Retard.

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PolishBaldEagle [M] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Let’s try to keep the direct insults out of debate here… even if it’s a “he insulted first” reaction insult.

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VetforTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

You are not wrong but be fair and give people a chance to hear logical facts and consider what the picture presents. I once believed covid was real. The way it was handled told me it was a psyop. I literally recognize the doctrine. 1998 I was part of a national conference that addressed using the media and its power to control w ha t people think and how they act. Manipulating entire populations. This became a pillar of the new naval maritime strategy replacing the Admiral Haywood system which replaced the pentomic system. The conference was called the 1998 world wide public affairs conference. It was held in D.C. I attended from my position as public affair officer for my unit.

They gave us topic matter to produce content and told us the top 10 priorities if published would generate cash awards for the journalist who wrote and promoted . So the bastards did. Medical health crisis were deemed the most reliable way to gain psychological compliance. Create a problem and a solution. The jab was the solution. At the conference my working group opposed the direction and gave our presentation to the board admirals. We where reprimanded. You see my real job was intelligence. I was only doing PAO as a collateral duty because there is a skill set to it and in hument, the personnel are often assigned to PAO as cover. For me it was a training assignment and I produced numerous articles amd they were published. Several of us tried to produce articles countering the move, this is considered proper in the military to ve able to hold an opposing view normally. They would not publish any of our positions. So. Here we are.

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PepeSee 2 points ago +3 / -1

Same to you fucko

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KimJung-Un 1 point ago +6 / -5

"Covid19 dEnIErS are so stUPid. ThEy ActuALlY thINk it'S AbSuRd thAt "covid" sTatS anD flu StAts MAtcH PeRfeCtLY hurrrrduuurrrr"

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PepeSee 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who here said every single "Covid" "positive" was in fact Covid?

Hurr durr yourself, hoers.

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KimJung-Un 0 points ago +2 / -2

The same people who told you covid19 is a thing are the same people who told you flu disappeared. It's time to wake up.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's time to fuck off.

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OffGridGuy 2 points ago +2 / -0

How exactly does it show HIV isn't the cause of AIDS? What other mechanism that primarily involves homosexuals and IV drug users do you propose accounts for their vastly higher incidences of AIDS?

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PolishBaldEagle 14 points ago +14 / -0

My fully vaccinated and boosted sister recently and quietly disclosed her experiencing some Auto Immune issues 😔😔

Unfortunately if I told her it’s because of the jab, she’ll have a million reasons to how it is not

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raver9876 7 points ago +7 / -0

“Russia is causing my immunodeficiency.”

-Liberal “thinker”

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comlib -1 points ago +1 / -2

So wait, is it causing immunodeficiency or autoimmunity? It can't do both.

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PolishBaldEagle 1 point ago +1 / -0

She said autoimmune. Though, it’s still quite early. I’m just hoping things get better for her. She’s had “bad luck” for most of her adolescent life based off of the choices she makes

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comlib 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hope for her health to improve as well!

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VetforTrump 10 points ago +10 / -0

Just heard the military is doing a 100 percent HIV testing on the troops. My daughter still in. She refused the jab. 8 years army, combat vet and did some difficult stuff she was awarded for. Tjeybare trying to put her out but someone is fighting for her to be retained. She fixes some highly technical stuff and has a Aerospace Engineering degree. She loved serving up until this shit. I'm retired Navy and took every shot i was ordered to.

I was out before the death jab but I would not have taken it either. I'll never take another vax. It's not that I'm anti vax, I'll never trust another vaccine source again. Ever. Nobody should. Of a real vaccine is produce I think it's useful. But nobody can be trusted to make them anymore ever.

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Realist_Theory 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hate to hear that’s happening to your daughter but glad to hear she’s refusing the jab. It’s not safe. I’ve already told my boss there’s no way I’m getting it. Luckily my job has not required it.

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Suckitreddit 9 points ago +9 / -0

Are they purposely using “muh…Ukraine!” Colors for the bar graph?

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KickingPugilist 9 points ago +9 / -0

Yes, I was going to point this out. The Ukraine flag colors have been used through much of the covid/vax campaign. This is just another reflection of that.

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Atlas117 5 points ago +5 / -0

I wonder if they did it subconsciously.

Spooky Derren Brown shit.

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hildberht 6 points ago +6 / -0

I know it sounds harsh but the counter to this is that 150 million odd Americans got the jab and 800 is a very small number in percentage terms.

Now we do not know if it will worsen in time and grow as many fear but as it stands they will counter with 'we saved many more lives and serious illnesses so the risk return is acceptable.

Still, people should have been told but they were not and if you believe the credible people reporting on this, it will grow in time as the damage is done and its a ticking time bomb.

Personally I am starting to see a lot of very strange illnesses related to the heart amongst people I know.

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comlib -1 points ago +1 / -2

Thank you for sensible thought! Most of this is also predicated on VAERS data, which has been massively inflated due to widespread vax skepticism over this same period. More reporting does not equate to more cases, and many orders of magnitude more people reported nothing.

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HairyWBush 5 points ago +5 / -0

so this is what they really mean when they want you to embrace the colors of Ukraine: this poll

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Glooptygloop 4 points ago +4 / -0

"You best start believin' in AIDS...it's in you."

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yeldarb1983 4 points ago +4 / -0

The problem is while you're technically correct, most people will assume when you say AIDS, you mean that the vaccine somehow gives you HIV. You're not saying that of course, but that's how people will interpret it.

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PepeSee 5 points ago +5 / -0

Eventually, like with many other things they don't know about, they'll learn (if they've survived that far).

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yeldarb1983 3 points ago +3 / -0

true, but it's something to keep in mind when you're explaining this to people... It might be easier to say the vaccine destroys your immune system...

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PepeSee 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think VAIDS and explaining it all out carries some weight - no-one wants AIDS - it's well known Bad News.

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yeldarb1983 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is that, but leading with AIDS implies the vaccine somehow gives you HIV, which just sounds kooky to most people.

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Enlightenment_Now 3 points ago +3 / -0

But it does give you HIV.

They use HIV protein fragments in the jabs. I think that's how they get the spikes to stick or something.

Remember all those people in Australia back in 2020 who tested positive for HIV because of the jab they were developing?

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yeldarb1983 1 point ago +1 / -0

I hadn't heard that, but it's something that's gotta be shown to people definitively and in a way they can't easily deny.

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stevethefish76 2 points ago +2 / -0

Isn't there some truth to that, though? HIV genetic sequences have been identified in the spike proteins, haven't they?

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yeldarb1983 1 point ago +1 / -0

If so, I hadn't heard that, but you're gonna have to walk people down that road somehow, otherwise you're gonna be dismissed as a kook.

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stevethefish76 2 points ago +2 / -0

The conversation of the HIV connection began over 2 years ago. It's been discussed on this forum before.

https://greatawakening.win/p/15HIhY892J/--nobel-prize-winner-luc-montagn/c/

HIV seems to be connected with COVID on many levels, from Fauci to the number of HIV scientists who've all died somehow all around the same time. Something weird is going on. Considering how often this has been "fact checked," it's possible that there could be some truth to it. Just like the possibility that DNA from snake poison could be spliced into the spike proteins.

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yeldarb1983 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay, but that's the virus itself, I thought we were taking about the vaccine?

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Traveling_Thru_Time 1 point ago +1 / -0

TD.Win called this like 4 months ago.

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Citizen17Soldier 1 point ago +1 / -0

Great articles like this come on here and whenever they do, shills and trolls drive the discussion right into the weeds by purposely confusing the issue about HIV vs AIDS. Any new reader will get lost in the cloudy discussion, I think, by design. The Jonestown Jab will destroy one's immune system - Can't we just leave it at that?

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DoMagnum 1 point ago +1 / -0

Alas poor vaxxies, I knew you well. No Refunds!

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comlib 1 point ago +2 / -1

Oh good lord. The best this proves is that way more people have been reporting stuff through VAERS, during two years in which vax skepticism was at an all-time high and VAERS was in headlines and anti-vax postings constantly. You'd have to show that the number of actual cases — not just reported cases — has increased by the same amount.

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Quantachyon 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's see how this ages over the next year...

"extremely rare" to have AIDs without HIV...

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg13718610-700-cause-unknown-for-aids-without-hiv/

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FreedomLover2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anyone actually experiencing it? Most of my coworkers are jabbed last year and they are all healthy and no problems whatsoever, at least so far. I haven't heard anyone even taking sick leave. Not sure what to believe.