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posted ago by naahbruh ago by naahbruh +238 / -0

We're on MMR. Any thoughts/suggestions/experiences that I could get as part of my knowledge journey? Wife and I are knee deep in side affects, lawsuits, fetal cells etc... We've dodged quite a bit, trying to stick to the 1983 schedule for vaccinations, however this one has us nervous.

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NoDramaMama2 46 points ago +47 / -1

One of my highly intelligent children was perfect - until his shots at around 2 years. He's now grown and has been diagnosed with Asperger's. I began to notice the signs - although at the time didn't know why - when he went to preschool. This loving, smiling, engaging, happy child became isolated, quiet, and had severely delayed speech. If I had a do-over, I would NEVER have given my children the shots !!! One: I wonder if it's necessary to the child's health or just "'convenient" for working mothers to not have to nurse a sick child (I had measles, mumps, and chicken pox and survived just fine). Two: A baby's and young child's immune system(s) aren't always sufficiently developed (imo) to handle the multiple-dose shots they're given and at such early ages!

I'm in my 60s, and when I was a child, autism and the "spectrum" were unheard of, and shots were not required. The only immunization I had was polio and smallpox before I started school.

Can't prove it, but a mother knows when her child changes after being vaxxed.

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Gitmo-or-Bust 37 points ago +37 / -0

I told our pediatrician there will be no vaxxes of any kind for any of our children ever again. They have shown themselves to be untrustworthy. Their your kids, not any doctor.

There are many families for decades that have never vaxxes any of their children. The long term data now shows they are healthier and even less obese. No more vaxxes ever!

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NooneFor2024II 17 points ago +17 / -0

Same and we did this prior to covid; last vax son received was when he was in 3rd grade and I wish I would have stood up MUCH sooner and said no to EVERY SINGLE ONE. There is no need for them; God already provided us with a healthy immune system and it is THEIR interference that is causing medical issues of ALL kinds that require their seriously messed up treatments, medications, vaccines, etc in order to keep their money laundering system going while destroying humans from the inside out, just like they plan to do to our society overall.

I HIGHLY advise every parent out there to look into the vaccine exemption regulations in their state and make full use of them as possible, if available. If none are available, start working to change the laws inyour state so they ARE available.

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Bully_Solution 1 point ago +1 / -0

 We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

 Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

 They will see our products used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effects.

 When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them it’s for their help.

From: The Secret Covenant

While it has been accused of being a hoax it accurately describes the world we now find ourselves in.

http://www.disleague.com/MassInCure/styled/styled-9/files/the-secret-covenant.pdf

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Gitmo-or-Bust 1 point ago +1 / -0

Agreed. We are homeschooling but TX has exemptions both for religious and even philosophical reasons (example: you think they are poison).

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SeeAreJay 8 points ago +8 / -0

Should look into parasite and heavy metal detoxes it has helped some autistic kids

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50_stars_for_freedom 6 points ago +6 / -0

Could be brain inflammation from heavy metals. You can detox.

https://youtu.be/tigMoxp-cCg

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Tcp_syn_ack_33 5 points ago +5 / -0

Agree. Friend had non verbal autistic and she switched to my pediatrician and they loaded him up with supplements to cleanse the brain. He is 12 and social smiles (doesn't look lost/glazed over) in pics now but speech 2 year old level.

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PatriotRage -12 points ago +2 / -14

Your child did not develop Asperger's from any vaccine. You labeled him "perfect" and "highly intelligent" up until he was 2 years old, but children younger than 2 have very few developmental milestones by which to judge them as "highly intelligent" and signs of being on the spectrum don't develop and show until AT LEAST 2 and usually more like 3-4.

What you described is the standard process of ASD manifestation; that's how the condition develops and presents. Vaccines had nothing to do with it.

Can't prove it

The reason you can't prove it is because there isn't a single, solitary shred of evidence to support the claims of links between vaccines and ASD. None. The entire "movement" was started by a discredited charlatan of a physician who eventually recanted and has been continuously debunked in the decades since.

I've worked with children with ASD for years and I feel a great amount of empathy for parents like yourself who struggle to find a reason or something to blame for their child being on the spectrum. No one wants to believe their child was born with any genetic issues, so it's easier and more comforting to blame it on an evil vaccine.

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jhartz39 16 points ago +16 / -0

Ya, when you get your kids vaccinated and one minute later their eyes glaze over and they become non verbal the rest of their lives its just coincidence.

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Hopiumaddict 14 points ago +14 / -0

That sounds like the exact script my pediatrician gave me. Why did autism rates spike after 1984? When did vaccine manufacturers add a bunch to the schedule? Why did they do this? Maybe because their liability was removed???

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jhartz39 11 points ago +12 / -1

Looking at all your comments and the extreme reactions to the bullshit you spew Im thinking you are just a pedo looking to start trouble. Your kind isn't admired around here.

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niumflow 9 points ago +10 / -1

You sound like you came from reddit. Go back to reddit with your mainstream beliefs. We're out here trying to prove the mainstream lies and you're over here pushing the lies further because you have a superiority complex and think if it's mainstream it must be right....

Hmm, are you a part of Biden's new Ministry of Truth? You likely wouldn't tell us if you were anyway.

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Razo 4 points ago +4 / -0

Much more logical assume to these disorders just magically appeared after being next to non-existent 100 years ago. It's just a mystery of the universe. This definitely sounds like the educated scientific approach.

Why are those who worship science as dogma unwilling to actually apply science practically and try to discover the reasons why things happen in our world? Maybe it is vaccines, maybe it's diet, maybe it's pollution but to just dismiss something as "debunked" especially just taking someone else's word for it is just plain ignorant. If it really isn't vaccines than that fact should stand up to scrutiny no matter how much is applied. Let people question things all they want it's how society advances.

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ILearnedToCode 33 points ago +33 / -0

Why is it a battle? Can you not just say no?

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Sadness 32 points ago +32 / -0

It's a funny thing the pressure comes from the school, and then the doctor's office. Sometimes work too. Yes, you can say no, but it means consequences.

For us, the consequence was homeschooling, which meant only one of us could work. That meant harsh budgeting in the early days.

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boystupid 34 points ago +34 / -0

It's 100% worth it. I'd sell my house and downsize if necessary to make homeschooling work.

I don't have kids but I would never EVER send them to public school based on my own experience there.

And I didn't even go to a "bad" school. I went to one of the top rated high schools in the country, wasn't bullied no one really was, teachers were basically polite.

It's broken from the ground-up.

Sure you can take over the school board and stop them from teaching bullshit.

But you can't really get away from the structure of the whole thing.

Homework assignments that don't give you ANY real life skills. No real analysis on writing - just can you pump out a meaningless but we'll formatted and organized A+ paper. There's no CONTENT in today's schools. It's totally devoid of meaning.

YES YOU NEED THESE SKILLS. Including things you don't want to do and completion of projects and goals.

But school is about the stupidest way you could teach them.

Teach kids to learn with their heart passion driving their brain. Don't just teach them a bunch of brain skills totally devoid of heart or they'll destroy the world with those skills, even with 'good' intentions.

Teach kids to dream of greatness and to make the world great too!

And building it yourself with a community of things you can involve your family and friends in will only make your entire life and every aspect of it stronger and closer to God too (even if you don't believe in God I think you can see a point in this).

Maybe I'm talking out my ass because I don't have kids like I said. But if I did I'd do ANYTHING to not send them to school.

Not unless they already seemed prepared for the shit storm of depressing beuracracy and WANTED to go for some reason. But even then I'd basically tell them I don't give a shit if they do what they're supposed to. I ABSOLUTELY care that they make a commitment to be successful at some aspect of it though and follow through until it's done. I just wouldn't make them okay the schools game if they didn't want to. And really I'd do anything to give them a life and friends and learning so they wouldn't want this.

A traditional school will kill this God passion. Even a good one without CRT or Bill Gates Math.

** omg lol the sp errors ... hahaha I'd Blake my phone but also you want spell check pay me

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coolhandcuke 10 points ago +10 / -0

Same here. And my teachers were generally pretty good or at least not too inefficient. None of them felt the need to parade their political views or sexual preferences, but now, it's just too scary.

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WeAreThePlan 4 points ago +4 / -0

Thanks so much for taking the time to write this comment.

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IwantmyCountryback 14 points ago +14 / -0

My daughter has twin 5 year olds. Had all the shots up to 3 years. One is diagnosed w educational autism, and he also has eczema on his right arm (she thinks he got a shot in that arm that he reacted to). Also has a 6 month old who only has a dtp. Her doctor pressured her into getting it or being dropped as a patient. She was still recovering from the birth and knuckled under. She has since been adamant to no more shots for any of her boys.

She’s been told by parent who didn’t vaccinate to look for a family doctor who’s a D.O. She’s looking into finding a naturopathic dr. My friend was pressured to have her 11 year old to get the guardisil shot. She said no way. The doctors try to shame you. Pediatricians make money off kids who complete the entire shot schedule.

My daughter says homeschooling is probably what she’ll do. Stay strong for your children.

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Krigstein 2 points ago +2 / -0

What’s a D.O, If you don’t mind me asking?

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MegaMAGAMichiPede 3 points ago +3 / -0

Doctor of Osteopathy. They’re just as much a physician as other doctors, it’s just that their education precludes them to being functional medicine doctors or a hybrid of allopathic and traditional/functional.

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Krigstein 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you!

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IwantmyCountryback 2 points ago +2 / -0

Doctor of Osteopathy from Piedmontdotorg Doctors of osteopathic medicine regard the body as an integrated whole rather than treating for specific symptoms only, according to the American Osteopathic Association. Allopathic medicine focuses more on disease treatment, Dr. Jaggers explains. Although both M.D.s and D.O.s receive similar education, D.O. programs require 300 hours of osteopathic manipulation medicine (OMM) training, which focuses on the musculoskeletal system. D.O.s also often address conditions from both a medical and lifestyle perspective

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Krigstein 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks!

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PatriotRage -4 points ago +2 / -6

Pediatricians make money off kids who complete the entire shot schedule

This is not true

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RageQuit 4 points ago +4 / -0

BS. BCBS gives bonuses based on percentage of kids that are fully vaccinated. Fall below the threshold and lose out on the whole bonus.

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IwantmyCountryback 1 point ago +1 / -0

Maybe not where you live, and I shouldn’t have implied all. Every hospital system works their own deals.

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IwantmyCountryback 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines-and-autism-is-the-science-really-settled/

Maybe not? Very few people in the world have read every single published study purporting to show that vaccines don’t cause autism. I happen to be one of them. Not since President George W. Bush stood on the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in 2003 to declare “mission accomplished” about the war in Iraq (right before it descended into a decade of chaotic hell) has so little evidence actually been marshaled to support a declaration that a critical question has been asked and answered—or, in this case, that the science is settled.

The “Tobacco Playbook”—more on this shortly—is alive and well, and it’s been both perfected and expanded in the fight to obfuscate the truth about vaccines and autism through the propagation of what’s called “distracting research”and, whenever necessary, outright lies about the science that’s been published exploring this topic. What’s actually true?

Almost no science has actually been done, and what little has been completed has been done with a singular focus: exonerate vaccines.

Just a part of the above article.

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BigDaddy1reboot 11 points ago +11 / -0

Home school your children. No need to produce an ‘immunization record’ if you home school.

Tell your Dr. you are changing health plans and he/she isn’t part of the new plan. After changing, do not go to the new Dr with your children.

I only had 2 or 3 vaccines as a child. It’s amazing I lived isn’t it. It’s amazing anyone lived through childhood before the late 50s when vaccines started.

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WeAreThePlan 9 points ago +9 / -0

It is a good thing that people are challenging vaccines. We need to take a close look at EVERYTHING that an authority tells us is true.

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weaponizedgravy 4 points ago +4 / -0

Producing an “immunization record” when you’re homeschooling is state specific. PLEASE, PLEASE look into your states homeschool rules and get with a local homeschooling associations!! Through those things I learned our state was trying to pass laws last year making homeschooled kids adhere to and submit proof of current immunizations to the state. Any non-compliance would put your kid on a “list” that everyone in the public would have access to. (These people are effing stupid AND sick)

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Truth4Freedom 3 points ago +3 / -0

WTF that’s disturbing, they are obsessed with shooting our kids up with toxic substances!

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NorthusMaximus 19 points ago +19 / -0

Holy Jesus.... please don't let your precious child become a statistic and government Big Pharma victim. Contrary to what the commies try to tell us, our children do not belong to them. I'm a parent. I can speak of these things.

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NoDramaMama2 5 points ago +6 / -1

If you want your child to attend a public school (even some private schools) or public university, proof of vaccination is required.

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SmolPedeBestPede 18 points ago +20 / -2

That’s one reason why sending your kid to public school is child abuse. Period. If you can’t home school your child or find alternative arrangements, you should have thought about that before.

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NoDramaMama2 7 points ago +8 / -1

My children never attended public school, we homeschooled. But as a young mom, I didn't know - I trusted the doctors. ::: sigh :::

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pearlrevolver 8 points ago +8 / -0

Every day I am more and more thankful my parents raised me to question everything.

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BigDaddy1reboot 7 points ago +7 / -0

There are still other options. If you must get your child vaccinated, wait as long as possible. Giving the MMR at 2 seems to be the cause of many vaccines injuries.

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NooneFor2024II 6 points ago +6 / -0

wrong; A LOT of states provide exemption status. And if they don't, work to change that. After all, "my body, my choice", right???

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dirtypaperplate 2 points ago +2 / -0

No its not, you can get religious exemptions

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MAGAsoyboyslayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

The amount of vaccines my local schools want is considerably lower then CDC recommends.

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Burninator 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can say no but the doctor won't let you schedule another appointment untill you get the shots he recommends. Happened to me.

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Pcolagal777 32 points ago +32 / -0

My son (now 15yo) had a febrile seizure 10 days after MMR vaccine when he was little. I was not anti vax to any major degree at the time but both my husband and I felt it was caused by the vax. Pediatrician told us no way. Too long after vax to have been the cause. Fast forward a few years and MMR vaccine handout at doctors office has seizures up to 2 weeks post vax as a side effect. Our son was laying on his stomach in his crib with his face down when we heard something odd on the monitor. He vomited after seizure and could hardly hold his head up. To this day I wonder what would have happened if we hadn’t stayed up very late that night and heard the small noises. Normally would have been sleeping.

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Sadness 19 points ago +19 / -0

God, or one of his angels, was watching over you.

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CirclebackGinger 8 points ago +8 / -0

That’s hilarious that the pediatrician said it was too long after the MMR shot for it to be the cause of the seizure when they literally tell you that your child can and usually does develop a fever from the shot 10-14 days after the inoculation. If you can develop a fever from the shot at 10 days, which your son did, then it would stand to reason that the seizure was from the shot b/c the shot caused the fever. The two go hand in hand. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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50_stars_for_freedom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Exactly what this study says: https://www.nature.com/articles/ng.3129

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Sadness 19 points ago +19 / -0

Personal anecdote, research group of (n=1).

MMR vaccine caused terrible crying for three nights, Febrile seizures - convulsions on the first night and high fever, that required paracetamol. Husband had no sleep as was carrying hysterical child all night, for three nights in a row. We were like zombies, snatching twenty minute naps when he did.

Then the green shits. These carried on for nearly three months. Tried all sorts of stomach soothing remedies. Had a line of nurses recommending anything from dill water to chicken bones.

Child survived, but is on autism spectrum. As a toddler he would need to walk vigorously in circles while talking, or singing songs that he had made up. Imagine forcing him onto a chair to read quietly! So, the luck of genetics was high IQ, but the vaccine made his mind into one that had very pronounced quirks.

Have since homeschooled all my kids, partly because of this experience. There was no way we were gonna let any vaccine in again, for anything. So 'vaccine mandates' for school were just a hard no.

The child in question would also have been abused by teachers and bullied in school. He has a very active mouth and has no social filters... So, any why? question will have to be discussed at length, with critical to-and-fro, complete with mobile reference library and long-form podcasts to prove it. He even talks openly about autism, and how the mind works. Also he was vociferously anti-vax at work, and had to change jobs three times in the last couple years. But, needs must. He feels strongly that any vaccine is a lie and a threat.

But imagine the damage (((they))) could have inflicted with the mob-mentality and the fake science, at school. Such walking, talking libraries are totally unsuitable in an institutional environment.

Actually, he's had to have jaw surgery after being decked out in a bar for talking too much. So he doesn't go to bars anymore. Society sucks sometimes.

Anyhoo.

Why are you 'talking to' a paediatrician? Find a school that will take your child without a vax. Get a private tutor, a few times a week. Maybe investigate home-schooling until this thing blows over. You might like it. I did. Also give the child a computer, so that they can learn to touch type, read, and research. Make it fun to watch math and science. Add some hands-on stuff like calligraphy pens or art supplies, so that they can get away from the keyboard. TBH, I do not respect what is being passed off for an education nowadays.

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Datadude 13 points ago +13 / -0

Wow, what a journey. Why is it that the most valuable lesson seem to come with the highest price, paid for by the most innocent?

May God Bless you and yours. :-)

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weaponizedgravy 3 points ago +3 / -0

You are not the first person to say “higher intelligence” and vax reaction in the same sentence. My family lineage is average intelligence at best and never saw any measurable signs of vax reaction. I don’t wonder if vax are designed (among other things) to be targeted destruction of the higher intelligent.

That being said, I’m sorry, my heart hurts for your heartbreaking experience. That would have been terrifying to witness. I’m happy to hear there’s another unfiltered mouth on the planet. (As embarrassing at that might be at times!) May God help us all find the strength to say what we mean without fearing someone else’s “feelings.” High five to your unique and important guy!

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meekturtle 2 points ago +2 / -0

As a homeschool parent veteran, how do you teach subjects you’re not skilled at? Im not a math person, or a science person really. I’ve had trouble teaching my 16 year old Algebra II and had to get my brilliant sister to help her. But that’s not working too well either because of schedules and she’s fallen behind task, drastically.

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deleteme1234 3 points ago +3 / -0

Online videos. Khan academy.

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Sadness 1 point ago +1 / -0

Try searching each topic within algebra 2 on youtube. My favorite find this year is Eddie Woo, an Australian that lights up the classroom.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjIHB8WzJek

Try his basic algebra algebraic techniques series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAyI-yiXaek&list=PL5KkMZvBpo5BTbgTCHTkwxUqfvg6MvNuJ

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Truth4Freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Checkout local homeschool groups near you! We know several families who school in groups, so the knowledge and workload is divided up amongst several other parents.

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NoDramaMama2 0 points ago +1 / -1

We used A Beka online for subjects I wasn't comfortable teaching - Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Spanish, Calculus. Great teaching, and the advantage of going back over a lesson if you didn't quite understand it the first time.

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SpaceCadet0106 17 points ago +17 / -0

I had fully vaxxed my two kids, I got in heated, HEATED, arguments with anyone who said vaccines were dangerous. I fully believed all the bullet points, 1) there is no threats of diseases BECAUSE we vax, 2) if we don’t vax, immune suppressed kids will be the ones to suffer, 3) doctors go to med school, this is one of the most fundamental advances in modern medicine and your going to refuse?!?

Then Covid happened. And I watched every doctor (family/friends who are doctors included) toute every safety measure against Covid like it was gospel. Shut downs, quarantines, social distancing, masks, locking up senior citizens etc. All things that absolutely were ludicrous according to basic germ theory or common sense. But the doctors were all in agreement, they were all experts, and they all lashed out at dissenters.

Then I watched all the doctors, nurses, experts in unison shout from the rooftops that HCQ and ivermectin were worthless poisons that only idiots would take. The real medicine was the ventilator and remidisvior

Then the Covid Vax , I watched all the doctors, nurses “experts” shove that needle down everyone’s throats with absolutely no qualms about the side effects, the rushed trials, the ethics of payouts, etc etc etc. YOU HAD TO HAVE THE SHOT if you wanted to survive.

After all that I started to think about the Autism debate. Doctors will lie to your face, they will fudge the numbers, they will turn a blind eye, they will go scorched earth on dissent when it comes to Covid questions. What’s to say that wasn’t the same formula used against vaccines and autism but on a slower metric. Covid put their methods on the fast track for all to see. It’s the same game.

I prayed and prayed, cried and cried because I have an infant this year and what or who was I supposed to trust? I asked God over and over who do I trust. And to me he said “Trust Me” so I took a deep breath and have refused all vaccines for my third child. I’ve put my child’s health in God’s hands, we make our best decisions on personal hygiene and nutrition we can personally make and have put our health completely in the hands of the creator of all things. I am at peace with my decision and I hope you can pray for the Lord to Guide you to an answer that will also bring you peace and health for you and you’re whole family.

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greeneggsnham 6 points ago +6 / -0

Thanks for sharing. I have a newborn and will have to face the same situation soon. I don't think this will be a something that my marriage can weather since my wife and I on opposite ends on many things--including this and she previously brought up divorce because of our differences are too difficult for her her (although, pregnancy hormones probably played a factor). COVID, too, was my wake up that made me go from 99% trust in the medical industry to 3% trust.

Was your spouse on board with how you went forward with no vaxing? Any tips for me?

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pearlrevolver 8 points ago +8 / -0

You know your wife best. For my husband, I felt I had to threaten divorce since he wanted to get our baby vaccinated. I'm the feisty one and he's a go with the flow kind of guy so this method ended up working out. Plus women hold all the cards in a divorce. Nowadays he's had a total change of heart and has told me how thankful he is that I never backed down. He's totally anti-vax now after all this covid bs.

For your wife, it sounds like you have to use a different approach. Try to convince her to wait until your child is school-aged. If you can get her to agree to waiting, you can slowly work on diminishing her trust of vaccines. I don't know your wife, but if she is like most women, emotion plays a big role in their decision making. There are plenty of horror stories of vaccine damaged children out there. My advice is to do this gradually. You're not going to change her mind overnight, but persistence is key. Good luck.

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greeneggsnham 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks for the listening ear and the tips! I think delaying could possibly be a workable approach.

I'm weak at addressing her at the emotional level... I guess this is the next thing on my heart to think about and pray about!

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verum_malleo 8 points ago +8 / -0

I’ve had similar trouble convincing my wife to avoid all vaccines for our kids not just the covid ones. Here are some points/links/books that helped convince her: https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/drinking/history.html (CDC admits improvements in sanitation were the main driver of the massive decline in infectious diseases in early 1900’s, before vaccines were widely used) https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/12/ten-year-study-unvaccinated-children-far-healthier-than-their-vaccinated-peers (Ten year study shows that unvaccinated children are far healthier than vaccinated children) https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674 (Ten year study shows that unvaccinated children are far healthier than vaccinated children) https://youtu.be/3vIcrFOT8pc (taped deposition of Stanley Plotkin MD, a leading authority on vaccinology, on vaccine ingredients containing animal viruses, aborted fetal tissues, etc.) https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/01/dr-andrew-zimmermans-full-affidavit-on-alleged-link-between-vaccines-and-autism-that-u-s-govt-covered-up/ (Dr. Zimmerman affidavit on link between vaccines and autism) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2536523/ (Dr. Andrew Zimmerman - Developmental Regression and Mitochondrial Dysfunction in a Child With Autism Caused By vaccines) https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/425061-how-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism (Dr. Zimmerman - How a pro-vaccine doctor reopened debate about link to autism) https://www.icandecide.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ICAN-VS-CDC-LAWSUIT-PR.pdf? (CDC couldn’t provide proof that certain vaccines don’t cause autism) https://www.immunizationcoalitions.org/content/uploads/2017/01/Timeline-for-CDC-Whistleblower.pdf (Timeline - William Thompson CDC whistleblower - link between MMR vaccine and autism) https://legislature.vermont.gov/Documents/2016/WorkGroups/House%20Health%20Care/Bills/H.98/Witness%20Testimony/H.98~Jennifer%20Stella~William%20Thompson%20Statement~5-6-2015.pdf (William Thompson testimony on 8/27/14 re: CDC cover up of link between MMR vaccine and autism) https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/06/read-cdc-senior-scientist-we-trashed-data-showing-vaccine-autism-link-in-african-american-boys (CDC whistleblower William Thompson’s testimony re: autism link to vaccines) https://translationalneurodegeneration.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/2047-9158-3-16 (Brian Hooker - Measles-mumps-rubella vaccination timing and autism among young african american boys: a reanalysis of CDC data) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25057632 (Polio vaccines from 1955-1963 were contaminated with cancer causing monkey SV-40 viruses) https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cancer-causing-simian-monkey-virus-polio-vaccines (How a cancer causing SV-40 monkey virus ended up in polio vaccines) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6121585/pdf/ijerph-15-01755.pdf (See page 3 of 7: Over 490,000 people in India developed paralysis as a result of the oral polio vaccine between 2000 and 2017) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28188123 (DTP vaccine (whole cell) increased infant 3+ month all cause mortality) https://academic.oup.com/jpids/article/8/4/334/5359449 (The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines - Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future, DTaP vaccine causes increased lifetime susceptibility to Pertussis) https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf (CDC vaccine excipient summary) https://www.nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/0062.pdf (Aluminum Phosphate is a known hazardous substance but it’s in many vaccines including TDaP) https://ijme.in/articles/deaths-in-a-trial-of-the-hpv-vaccine/?galley=html (Gates funded HPV vaccine trial in India that recruited poor malnourished girls, many died) https://youtu.be/o7A_cMpKm6w (Bill Gates' Plan to Vaccinate the world, damage caused by polio and HPV vaccines in India and meningitis vaccines in Africa) Vaccine injury cover up: https://learntherisk.org/ (Merck whistleblower Brandy Vaughan vaccine truth organization) https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27023738 (Vaccine-associated inflammatory diseases of the central nervous system: from signals to causation) https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10210810 (Magnetic resonance imaging findings in 22 cases of myelitis: comparison between patients with and without multiple sclerosis) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24514081/ (The spectrum of post-vaccination inflammatory CNS demyelinating syndromes) https://ccandh.com/vaccine-injuries/transverse-myelitis-tm/ (Vaccine Injuries > Transverse Myelitis) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19880568/ (Transverse myelitis and vaccines: a multi-analysis) https://www.cdc.gov/acute-flaccid-myelitis/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Facute-flaccid-myelitis%2Fafm-investigation.html

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dirtypaperplate 5 points ago +5 / -0

Relaaaaaax, so many people survived without vaccines. It's a snake oil gimmick.

I have unvaxed children. No diseases thus far.

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weaponizedgravy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I love you! And I LOVE this! Strength and honor fren! 💪🏼🙏🏼

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Hellann 16 points ago +18 / -2

Research Blood-brain barrier. They need to have this developed first, then its safer for some of these vaccinations. My daughter explained this to her pediatrician and they agreed. So, basically, just waiting until they are older.

I also agree with find another pediatrician, general, natural medicine type or even some midwives groups can help with this.

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FreeMainiac 1 point ago +3 / -2

Look up the Dr. Sears schedule. It spreads the shots out over a long period of time. Haven't noticed any problems so far. At the end of the day, if you don't want your kids getting the shot, say no and fire the doc if necessary. Every state has exemption forms and they're simple to fill out. It's our choice, our kids.

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Reefay 14 points ago +14 / -0

MMR causes autism in boys. Don't let your kids get it. Watch the movie Vaxxed by Del Bigtree. That'll give you all the ammunition you need.

Also find a pediatrician that is ok with no vaccines

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NooneFor2024II 2 points ago +2 / -0

Del is doing incredible work. I wish he was getting much more exposure.

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Reefay 2 points ago +2 / -0

To anyone wanting to watch him, you can see him on the highwire.com or Roku channel of same name.

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +1 / -1

Del needs to get the point across that viruses dont exist. Until then hes CIA shit like Malone and McCullough

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NooneFor2024II 1 point ago +1 / -0

The normies, even the crunchy mamas who are huge supporters of him, would immediately turn away from him if he said such a thing. I dont think his purpose in this is to make people aware of that side of the equation; his role is to wake as much as he can to the dangers of vaccines and how every single manufacturer of them has LIED, with the Govt covering it up, about vaccine safety trials.

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Gandiva 13 points ago +13 / -0

Do not, under any circumstances, give any of your children even one vaccine. Only 6 states do not allow for more than a medical exemption: CA, ME, NY, CT, WV, and MS. If you are not in one of these states, check to see if they allow philosophical exemption. In Oregon, I had a girlfriend who had three kids and she never had to give any of them vaccines, ever. In liberal hellhole Portland, no less! Just a few easy paper hoops to jump through once a year. They all attend public schools, because Oregon has a philosophical exemption. 15 states are like this:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx

The rest of the states have religious exemptions. If you can't get a religious exemption through your present religion, pay a bit of money and sign up the entire household to this religious organization. It can all be done by mail. I did it, and I got membership certificates and everything. There's even a court case in New York that upheld membership in this group for purposes of granting religious exemption.

https://seekwisdom.life

Finally, read the most important book anyone could read in the world at the present moment: Virus Mania, 3rd Edition. I guarantee you this will not be a waste of your time. You will see what a fraud so-called vaccines are, and how these phony pandemics have been going on for a very long time, long before the current giant scam.

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1eyeameye1 1 point ago +1 / -0

Any advice what to do in CA?

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Gandiva 0 points ago +1 / -1

You could try to find a doctor willing to grant you a medical exemption. I have a friend who is a federal employee who was able to get one and keep her job. But she had to find a doctor in a different state where they are not threatening doctors who grant medical exemptions. Call all your friends in red states and find out if they know any doctors sympathetic to this issue. Doctors in other states can issue medical exemptions for patients in other states.

Also, homeschooling. I'm not well-versed on this for states like California. I'm sure there's something more than I can think of.

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OneArmedViolinist 13 points ago +13 / -0

The only reason to take your kid into the pediatrician is to get those injections. You can keep track of their weight and height all your lonesome. Personally? I recommend NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM. I have an 8 year old and a 6 year old. Neither has had a single injection in their entire life.

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NooneFor2024II 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yearly wellness checks arent about the health of the child; they are about ensuring that they get those vaccines pushed out on to kids and now can encourage gender confusion, as well as make note of the chattle for updating those med records (which are now ALL digital) and tied to SSN (chattle #s). Have to update yearly how much you are worth in the human trafficking system, dont you know.

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Gandiva 1 point ago +1 / -0

Great for you! You have protected your kids from terrible people.

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OneArmedViolinist 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not without much intimidation and pushback. I've known about vaccines for a very long time. You might call me an "OG Antivaxxer." They tried to tell us in the hospital with our first born that we wouldn't be allowed to see him in the NICU if we didn't get vaccinated OURSELVES for flu. We refused, of course, and good thing, because the nurses who ran that NICU understood the mechanics of vaccine shedding and actually had a sign posted that said you were not allowed in if you'd been vaccinated for anything within 2 weeks. Our first pediatrician wouldn't even consider a delayed vaccination schedule, nor would he even show us the inserts for the vaccines there in his own office. I like to think the certified letter I sent him illustrating my concern for his utter lack of respect for the AMA's code of ethics, specifically surrounding INFORMED CONSENT, stopped him from coming after us with CPS. No - as a parent, you must stand firm. You are all that is in their way.

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dildoschwaggins 10 points ago +10 / -0

What's the issue...it's YOUR kid. Not the doctor's, not the school's, not the government's, etc. Say no, move on. That's what we do. I don't take any if, ands, or buts from the pediatrician. Period.

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DagnyDocket 9 points ago +9 / -0

I would back up and think about why you go to the pediatrician to begin with. Nary an appt scheduled except well baby visits that typically only coincide with vax schedule? If your child is healthy and growing normally you hardly need a Dr. or nurse to measure head and length, weigh, and interpret growth charts. Many common child illnesses like pinkeye can be diagnosed via telemedicine, too. Just some food for thought. If you plan on public school and vax exemptions are allowed, consider that, too. You pay their mortgage when you take a healthy child in for no real reason.

As for research, liked Dr. Tenpenny and of course Wakefield.

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angrysnowpede 9 points ago +9 / -0

I know almost for certain I read recently one of the CDC scientists that did their MMR trials admitted their internal studies showed an association with autism.

Also, make sure you research about the CDC being obligated to do long-term studies on their vaccine schedule (which they still haven't done decades later).

And find the 10-year study released late 2020 from one of the largest pediatrician clinics in the PNW showing more vaccines results in more chronic health conditions. That was posted on Children's Health Defense IIRC.

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YoHoseph 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don’t be afraid to shop docs until you find one that will do what YOU wanna do. It is a free country after all.

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WuTangFlu2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

In my area you can’t just “dr shop”. If you have a pediatrician and you decide to go to another office, you have to show proof you have moved. I was told the local pediatricians got together and decided on this to prevent parents from leaving a practice because they disagreed with the dr.

I tried to leave mine. Didn’t go well.

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NooneFor2024II 6 points ago +6 / -0

If you have a pediatrician and you decide to go to another office, you have to show proof you have moved

Uh, say what?? Where is this a law?

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Analophigus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yes please explain

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WuTangFlu2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no law.

I tried to move my daughter to a different local pediatrician and was told that unless we had moved, they wouldn’t take her because she already had an existing local pediatrician. When I told them I didn’t like him and wanted to book a consultation to interview a new pediatrician to take my daughter, they refused. They said it is common local practice to not allow dr hopping of local patients.

My daughter has special needs and I didn’t like the lackadaisical approach my current pediatrician had at that time.

I tried one other practice before I gave up because what a damn racket. I get that they don’t want parents leaving doctors simply because they don’t like the diagnosis but at least give me a chance to talk to another local dr about it as a consultation.

I’ve fought a ton of battles including my own state for her cannabis oil. I had about enough and let that battle go.

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Glooptygloop 8 points ago +8 / -0

Try to get them to hold it off. Just tell them you're waiting. Ask about individual vaxxes altho I'm sure they will say they're not available

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NoDramaMama2 6 points ago +7 / -1

Yes, I've heard of this lately... mothers saying they'll get their child vaxxed BUT with only one at a time and with a wait time in between. That's better than what the docs are offering. I wish I'd known.

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Glooptygloop 6 points ago +6 / -0

We were told they couldn't get the single vaxes which was probably a lie

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NotATeamPlayer 12 points ago +12 / -0

That is a lie. We broke our kids shots sort and spread the time apart as well. My pediatrician argued with me saying that vaccines don't cause autism. I said, ok, then what does? She said they don't know. My response was that she couldn't say say it wasn't the vaccines then, if they didn't know. I would avoid as many vaxxes as possible if I were to do it over again.

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WeAreThePlan 4 points ago +4 / -0

If the "science" doesn't involve logic, it ain't science. Good job, NotATeamPlayer. Keep not being a team player. The team is run by assholes.

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MAGAsoyboyslayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep. This is what we do. The multiple vaccines at once cause problems.

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +1 / -1

Please dont even do this. Viruses dont exist, so why why why why why why the poor children

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MAGAsoyboyslayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

My wife knows someone who didnt get polio vaccine and got polio. I don't feel like having a crippled kid

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +1 / -1

Lol right. Even though no one has ever seen or found a "polio". But there sure is a link between DDT and whatever toxic chems they moved to to continue to give people those symptoms

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Bonnieric 8 points ago +8 / -0

There is no need to use a pediatrician. Their only purpose is to keep our kids on the vax schedule. They are also there to target parents who will not comply.

Instead, hire a family physician who honors your wish to never vaccinate. These physicians can treat your children as well as any pediatrician.

I have a vax injured child. We suffer every day because I allowed the pediatrician to bully me five years ago. Now I am awake.

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trumphairdontcare 7 points ago +7 / -0

You pay them for their advice and that's that. They dont reign over your children. I've found the less I say, the less they say. I tried stating my concerns and religious beliefs- they dont care. I then just firmly and politely declined. I didnt give them a conversation. They ask if I have questions and I say no. With our first kid, they really didn't care much after age 2. It gets brought up at most appointments but just a "we usually do this at their age I see you declined, of course we recommend it so let me know if I can answer any questions you have.." i say okay thanks. That's it. We move on and its not even a stressful thing anymore. Our schools here have waivers but we homeschool anyway.

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magglepuss 7 points ago +7 / -0

Go to Bitchute and watch the documentary "Vaxxed". Then watch "Vaxxed 2"

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Honor+Duty 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wow! Thanks. I was just going to ask if anyone knew of some documentaries to watch for information on vaccinations.

I know autism rates for boys are like 1 in 40. Up from like 1 in 100,000 a few years back before they added all the vaccines.

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +1 / -1

and then watch the viral delusion please. it gets so much worse when you realize viruses dont exist

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NewportBeach 7 points ago +7 / -0

Trust your instincts. Don't do it.

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RealCleanUpPhilly 7 points ago +7 / -0

Tell them no. No means no.

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Hellann 2 points ago +2 / -0

One thing I did just kind of out of instinct, before I knew more (like 2 decades ago) was to make the appt for the next shot how they want you to .. then, closer to appt, call and reschedule due to ..whatever.. could stretch it out another month or 3 depending on your willingness to accept what they had avail. Same with the dentist.

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COLNE68601 6 points ago +6 / -0

Informed Consent Action Network is a great source for honest info on vaccines. Their weekly program, The Highwire, has been exposing the lies about vaccine safety for years. https://www.icandecide.org/white-papers/

https://thehighwire.com/

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Jacurutu99 6 points ago +6 / -0

They traded EVERYTHING to go ALL IN with Covid. They can't be trusted and never should have been.

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Gandiva 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes!

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Lookingfortruth 6 points ago +6 / -0

Go to another pediatrician. Wake up. Man-made injections directly into arm of child is never healthy. Bodies were made to be exposed, process naturally, then have immunity.

There are plenty of pediatricians who are awake to vaccine corruption. Find one who resonates.

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Trumptrumpandaway1 5 points ago +5 / -0

We followed a delayed vaccine “schedule” so they never received more than one shot at the same time.

For years that seemed ok to me as a clueless parent.

However both of my kids are now teenagers and my oldest most dramatic teenager claims that both of them (and practically everyone else in the world) is autistic.

So, not sure if vaccine are at play in this. What I do know is the Amish don’t seem to have the autism problem and they don’t have the vaccinations or the electronics.

Can you keep unsupervised phone and tablet access away from your child until they are 16 or even 18?

If you are serious about protecting your child and want to save yourself a whole other rabbit hole of problems, consider doing BOTH the things that the Amish do by avoiding the electronics and the vaccines.

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MAGAsoyboyslayer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Same here. We fo one at a time, delayed them and only follow public school requirements which is alot less shots then cdc and delayed.

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Ssue1216 5 points ago +5 / -0

Please please please read my comment and my 17 year old sons story. It’s not the vax it combining all of them at once that screws up most kids. https://www.opposingviews.com/health/the-peanut-allergy-epidemic-is-a-man-made-epidemic-caused-by-vaccinations

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BlowTorch 5 points ago +5 / -0

I registered my son and myself to a legitimate control group, If you’d like I can provide the information to become members as well.

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l3tsgetit 1 point ago +1 / -0

What is the purpose of said group?

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BlowTorch 4 points ago +4 / -0

To compile a database of health events of non vaccinated, to be compared to the vaccinated population, control groups serve as a relative point to observe post vax issues. Hope that made sense, been a long work weekend

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BlowTorch 2 points ago +2 / -0

Certain legalities of being a part of the control group explicitly protect the unvaxxed status

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Kaboni420 4 points ago +4 / -0

Get this book: The Vaccine friendly plan by Dr.Paul Thomas

It helped me navigate the medical bulshit for my child.

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Krigstein 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thomas has recently said that he thinks his book didn’t go far enough as well. He has some very interesting new videos and interviews (not on his YouTube channel which is vax talk free, can search for him on Rumble.)

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dirtypaperplate 3 points ago +3 / -0

I love his videos! I wish he did more nutrition panels.

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MAGAVER 2 points ago +2 / -0

Second this recommendation! We ended up spacing out all the vaccinations and I rejected all the ones I could, including for myself during pregnancy. His book really opened my eyes with its rational and sensible approach.

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dougwiser 4 points ago +5 / -1

I recently shut down the Karen receptionist at the doctor cause she was trying to take my pic and scan my drivers license, I feel you pain for having been there but my kids who are teenagers now were young I told the pediatrician with a strait face, if you inject any mercury based preservatives into my children with a vaccine and you will have regrets from that decision, Of Course my wife runs her mouth about stuff but she would get them vaxxed behind my back. What I am saying is what makes you trust the satanic doctors

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TychoDurandal 1 point ago +2 / -1

What did the receptionist plan to do with that information

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WeAreThePlan 1 point ago +2 / -1

Probably sell it to Zuckerberg.

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dougwiser 1 point ago +1 / -0

well they say they required the ID scan so if I skipped on the bill. then she had the phone in her ear when she told me they didnt need the pic but the boss said they had to scan the license. I told her to tell her boss that his boss (me) said hell no and left

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Astryr 4 points ago +4 / -0

We vaccinated our first up to 4 years (she is 12 now)... she ended up having multiple seizures (one resulting in some minor brain damage). Since then, no more for her, and our two younger ones have never been vaccinated (2 & 4 yo), at all. They are both unbelievably bright & healthy.

Highly recommend reading Dissolving Illusions, by Suzanne Humphries as a good starting point. Will make your decisions much easier I think. Best of luck!

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Morpheus11 4 points ago +5 / -1

Viruses don't exist. Therefore, all vaxes are worthless poisons. Watch this film and all your questions will be answered.

The Viral Delusion - https://paradigmshift.uscreen.io/programs/episode-one-narrated-18-no-perth-2-72011-a0209a?categoryId=112764

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +2 / -2

dude thank god i had to scroll to the bottom of the page. the viruses not real shit has been easy to find for a year now yet all of great awakening believes in them?? this site is controlled big time

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Morpheus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep, peeps are sleeping through the obvious. Most are trapped in middle-land, where folks like Zelenko, McCullough, Malone, Mikovits, Mercola, Kennedy, Bigtree, Tenpenny, Madej, etc. are all holding sway in the "alternative health" space. Not a one has even made an attempt to discuss, let alone disprove the work of doctors Lanka, Kaufman, Cowan, Bailey, etc.

The blocker/veil is pretty obvious to me now after shouting this from the rooftops for nearly 2 years now. Everybody's had a situation where multiple family members came down with the flu at the same time, or attended a chicken pox party when they were a kid, etc. And they don't like the real explanations for these diseases, preferring the victim consciousness explanation instead.

C'est la vie. All we can do is to continue dropping the truth into their threads...

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Isthisreallifee 0 points ago +1 / -1

Im sure youve seen this gem from Malone when confronted with germ theory being fake. Um. Drr. Is clear viruses exist we have the evidence. There are tests. https://www.bitchute.com/video/t0QXBWfoYStZ/

How could anyone see this and be like hell yea you showed us viruses are real thank god

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Morpheus11 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. He's either in denial, afraid for his life/career, or most likely, completely brainwashed.

Not a single person has even made an ATTEMPT to explain why Dr. Stefan Lanka's findings are incorrect. We're coming up on the 2 year anniversary of his paper "The Misconception Called Virus", and not a single peep from anybody.

It's all so painfully obvious...but alas, a high percentage of our fellow man is still unable to discern truth from falsehood due to their past traumas....sigh..

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Gandiva 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would judge that most of Great Awakening still believes in the existence of viruses. I feel in the minority here, because I have figured out that virus theory is a scam. But there are enough people here who have figured this out that I am able to openly talk about this, and they're helping wake up those who haven't figured it out yet. My recommendation to you is that you read the book Virus Mania, 3rd edition. It is the most important book anyone could read right now.

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MAG768720 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well ... the ulitimate "Trump Card" here is that no vaccine has ever been proven safe or effective against viruses because viruses do not exist.

The way to play this in a legal case is to put the burden of proof on the other party making the claims that you "must" do this or that.

If a law or regulation or policy exists, but it is based on fraud, then it is not valid and cannot be legally enfored.

Get them to show evidence that their claims are valid. If you are using an attorney, then the problem is that an attorney will "stipulate" to certain things that they don't think are worth arguing. Once stipulated, a thing will be considered a fact for the purpose of that particular lawsuit.

If you and I were in a lawsuit against each other, and we stipulated that the Moon is made of cheese, then for the purpose of that lawsuit, the it would be considered a fact that the Moon is made of cheese.

We could stipulate that (a) vaccines are required because (b) vaccines are effective (c) against viruses that exist and do harm. All of these things would be considered facts for this case. If we stipulate to (b) and (c) but not (a), then it becomes a fight over whether or not they are required. And you will lose that fight.

But if we do NOT stipulate to (b) and (c), then the burden of proof is on the party making the claim.

If you are not up to speed on the April 2021 research that proved that viruses do not exist, this is a good start:

https://rumble.com/vtd2cf-cov-myths-exposed-scientists-prove-sars-cov-2-cov-dont-exist.html

If you choose to go down this road, you will have to become more of an expert than the lawyers, the judges, and any supposed "experts" that the other side will attempt to bring into the case. Just keep in mind that you (or attorney) have the right to voir dire any witness as to their expertise, and they will crumble once you ask them to show you any paper that shows that any virus has ever been isolated and proven to be transmissible and harmful to others. No person on Earth has ever done that. And they never will -- for the same reason that I will never ride a unicorn.

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Hope70 4 points ago +4 / -0

Find a different pediatrician who is more compatible with your views.

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Truth4Freedom 3 points ago +3 / -0

In my years of researching this, I’ve never heard of a parent who regrets not vaccinating their child, but I’ve read countless sad and tragic stories from parents who wish they never gave their children a shot. No safety studies have ever been done. The shots are toxic and unnecessary. It’s good to see so many on this thread are awake to the horrors.

I’ll post some links to research when I get a chance later today…

Edit: here's a link to an older post asking for info on vaccines.. good info in here! https://greatawakening.win/p/12hl5FqP7m/need-evidence-on-vaccine-dangers/

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wantstogomoon 3 points ago +3 / -0

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GIVE YOUR KIDS THE MMR SHOT.

Period. They gave me that shit and I blacked out and developed GB syndrome: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/guillainbarr-syndrome

I still suffer from nerve pain from that day. Tell your pediatrician you need no vaccines.

Also ask him if he is willing to sign a form stating he and his practice will be willing to pay for any and all disabilities, including death that occurs from said shots since the manufacturer is 100% immune from being sued!

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Mpower88 3 points ago +3 / -0

Read the book “To Vaccinate or not to vaccinate” and you’ll decline every shot they have. The author uses data from pharma and goes shot by shot per chapter - the conclusion for all of them is that the shot is worse than the disease. I wish I’d never gotten any of mine vaccinated, ever.

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Isthisreallifee 1 point ago +2 / -1

So that book is still full of shit then because viruses are not real. wake up please this is great awakening

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Gandiva 1 point ago +1 / -0

I love this site because of people like you! Only, go easy with the language on anyone already willing to question the phony narrative. Those who haven't figured out yet that virus theory is a scam are still on the same team. In fact, those of us who know this are still in the minority around here.

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Surfsup 3 points ago +3 / -0

Consider gettingt a new pediatrician! Or stop depending on doctors. Humans didn't need doctors for 100s of 1000s of years. My wife was the same until she met me. Now she's fixed. Doctors are for when your arm is falling off, that's it. My kids eat healthy and limited screentime means they use their bodies. Therefore, they are healthy and not fat disgusting freaks like most kids. We go to the park, not the mall.

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AWOLSheep 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you are having to battle your pediatrician about this, find a new pediatrician. We woke up and stop giving our daughter any vaccines after 3 and my daughter on the way will receive none. Their Pediatrician gives me zero pushback about it.

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Greatheart 3 points ago +3 / -0

From what I understand the vaccines are not supportive by the fda for anyone under 6. They are only recommended by the cdc. If nothing else say you only want vaccines that are aged approved only

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Analophigus 3 points ago +3 / -0

Do not vaccinate your child anymore. Do not pay a pediatrician to bully you or dictate anything regarding your child. If that pediatrician doesn’t say “okay” after you decline a service then you walk the f out of there and never go back. Vaccines are poison. Join the club of parents that do not poison our kids—please!

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ditzee58 3 points ago +3 / -0

They're your children just say no.

Scroll down and you'll see a list by state as to whether or not religious and/or personal beliefs are accepted when not wanting to vaccinate your children:

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx

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MegaMAGAMichiPede 2 points ago +2 / -0

Switch pediatricians. Check out Dr. Green Mom, she has a state by state list of pediatricians who are accepting of an alternate or even NO vaccine schedule.

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Ssue1216 2 points ago +2 / -0

This shot is what caused my son to be allergic to peanuts, tree nuts, latex, peas, cats dogs and for a while peaches

If you let them make them separate it instead of combining. My son would not have gone through having to live in a bubble (figuratively) if I would have known this. Instead I was not awake and trusted my pediatrician.

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Trumpguurl2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

None!!

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Krigstein 2 points ago +2 / -0

Reposting an older post of mine that compiles a bunch of information and links. Hope it can be helpful to you.

Compiled some of my older replies for you. Hope it helps in your decision making process.

Check out the Plotkin deposition. Video is 9 hours long and can be found on YouTube and Rumble. Basically, the main lawyer who is responsible for recently getting the Pfizer docs (Aaron Siri) deposed one of the worlds foremost vaccine scientist/expert/makers. Lots of good information there. Some links regarding that exchange.

An interview with lawyer Aaron Siri where he talks about the deposition among other things. Pretty good overview to wet your whistle.

https://media.livecast365.com/highwire/thehighwire/content/1635806248371.mp4

From there you can watch the actual 9 hour deposition video. Pretty sure someone in the comments of the video has timestamped it with the questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhNGu3jFylU

Watch Vaxxed 1 and 2.

I’ve heard good things about the book Dissolving Illusions.

I’m currently reading this book by a parent who’s son was vaccine injured and unfortunately passed away at a young age (20 something). The father has compiled information for 20 years and put out his book for free. Can be found here:

http://www.daretoquestionvaccination.com/

Search for videos by Dr Paul Thomas on Rumble. He also has some good pediatrician videos on YouTube for other kid ailments and whatnot.

He’s a Pediatrician who recently had his license suspended because he was recommending a different schedule for childhood vaccines. His local medical board asked for the evidence for his recommendations which he countered by saying the CDC has never proven the safety of their recommended schedule. He had a 3rd party come in and compare the health of his vax and unvax patients (children) and he found that the unvaxxed were significantly healthier,. Less than a week later the medical board came and took his license away. He’s back working again, but he is definitely someone who has a ton of valuable information.

This video sums up Dr. Paul Thomas’s research.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VHEPZ1VszJRV

He mentions this site in some of his videos. Has good visuals and charts.

https://www.thecontrolgroup.org/

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Ang77 2 points ago +3 / -1

Just say No nicely and that I will do another day...kids are typically cranky the day after getting them, so say you have an important event the next day, and just nicely get out of it. I kick myself for EVER getting my children vaccinated now, or sending them to public school. We have to change the system, the current one will take all of us pulling our children out until the indoctrination system is removed. And the schools have been using the Vaccination card system for a while, and don’t we now see that is wrong.

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weaponizedgravy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Jan 2020 is the last ped appt my kids had. Honestly, I only had a ped for my kids and took them to the scheduled appts for vaccines, a schedule we modified anyway (similar to the 1983 schedule bc “we were fine being subjected to it”) . I always just assumed I’d notice if something was “wrong” since I was the one physically feeding them and observing them everyday, and I didn’t need a doc to point it out (narsisstic overconfidence or common sense, I’m not sure). I’d check this site (don’t know who runs it) to make sure I wasn’t forgetting to show them things (like putting cheerios in a bottle?!?)

No shots since chyna virus, no drs since chyna virus. Some shots may very well be “fine” but I don’t trust easily and the medical community REALLY effed it up hardcore over the last 2yrs. There won’t be any “catch up” shots. Any future kids will be shot free until someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the shot is absolutely paramount to survival (good luck with THAT).

We visit a naturopathic dr every few months but I understand good Naturopaths are hard to find.

I wish I could offer more “proof” help. Just know that unless you’re injecting them with poison, kids develop at their own rate anyway (roughly on the peds schedule) and only under some rare instances, will you need more specialized help, which you’ll probably notice all on your own. Example, my oldest would have been considered “delayed” in speech. He figured it all out exactly a month after his 2yo appt and hasn’t stopped talking since (even when he’s sleeping he’s talking 🙄).

Note: I have since learned enough about the childhood shots to know that what’s in that syringe today is in fact different from what the 1980’s kids received. I wouldn’t do it again.

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somebodysdaughter 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was in your position, initially I decided to delay, but still haven't done it at age 2 and think we'll fully skip it MMR. I've been researching so much that I believe it's unnecessary. Lmk if you want resources, I haven't read the comments yet.

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Pyromnd 1 point ago +1 / -0

To op, my daughter has all the shots. At least to the list up to 2011. When she was a baby they doctor wanted to give her all the shots in a very short time frame. I had them spread it out even more. I’m not against vaccines you can condem me all you want, but I gave my daughter all of them. But I considered the vaccines to overload the system. This is why I had her have them spread out. Even further than it should of been. If it was a month or two between shots, it’s was another month or two added on before she got those shots.

She will soon be 11. She is healthy and smart and all around a good normal kid. Everything has side effects. I just used rational of something that trains the body and if you have too many at once you have a breakdown in the system.

I will say this though. She was breastfed for her first 6 months and then formula after due to mom drying up. But as an unknown tidbit. If mom likes peppermint. Don’t let her have any. It stops milk production.

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Truth4Freedom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Checkout this older post asking the same thing, got a lot of great feedback and research. Good luck! Your gut knows the right thing to do. Trust that sense, and trust God.

https://greatawakening.win/p/12hl5FqP7m/need-evidence-on-vaccine-dangers/