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MZakOne 67 points ago +67 / -0

I believe the final percentage of fake accounts will be close to 50%.

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rayw_wwg1wga 50 points ago +50 / -0

Kash Patel was pretty confident that it would be about 5% real accounts

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MZakOne 25 points ago +25 / -0

WOW.

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M-I-vet 29 points ago +29 / -0

Summary: social media sites use massive numbers of bots that pretend to be users (AI, etc.) in order to herd the sheeple towards thinking that the leftist agenda is supported by the majority of people. That is all fake. Social engineering. Psyops.

In reality, the leftists are a small minority. That fact is now in the process of being exposed... and the leftists are not happy about that, which is a good thing.

This is also the reason that they have to cheat in elections. They are a small minority, and cannot win any fair elections. They have to steal them.

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ThinQ 7 points ago +7 / -0

Good three-minute video on Chinese click farms and evolving internet fraud (related to creating false popularity of products, people).

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EinrePede22 3 points ago +3 / -0

don't forget money laundering; the cabal has traditionally had few limits on how much money they can print, but making it look legit is a wall - wouldn't be surprised if it's 95% bot accounts and therefore 95% twitter "revenue" is a straight up wire deposit from the fed. Of course other socials doing similar, but twitter seems to most egregious offender

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lsvogel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep! Are the BOD at Twitter hyperventilating yet?

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MisprisionIsEvil 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wish my Marxist siblings were bots. Hoped they would wake up. But not yet.

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Sumsuch 19 points ago +19 / -0

That's been close to my own thoughts. You just need to understand three things:

  • Governments, corporations and other organizations have a strong motive to influence public discourse

  • There is NO significant barrier to prevent bots from making accounts (No barrier at all for twitter itself to run bots while taking payments off the books)

  • It is incredibly easy to run a very large number of bots with very basic hardware

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Vstablegenius45 14 points ago +14 / -0

I have heard from someone who is knowledgeable insider on machine learning and bots that places like reddit are like 80-90% bots and i could surely believe that when you look at what gets up-voted and such.

You can usually tell by looking at their accounts but people have been known to sell good accounts to bots so it appears more organic.

One of the things Skycoin was working on with their version of social media was a way to eliminate bots and also having client side filtering so you can filter out the idiots rather than the big tech filtering you out, so you can choose what content you want to see.

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operation_eland 16 points ago +16 / -0

I came to this conclusion a few years ago that 90% of the internet was astroturfed. Not just by governments and intelligence agencies either. A lot of it is probably corporations and their PR firms promoting narratives about their products or putting down anyone criticising them.

For example on reddit if you criticised Monsanto or Lockheed Martin at any time of day weird shill accounts would show up and defend them at any hour of the day. Likewise going back to 2016 those weird accounts which would show up and post walls of text defending Hillary Clinton with articles from CNN and MSNBC. A combination of bot and shill accounts likely working for one of the big PR firms.

I also came to the conclusion that a lot of the fandoms do the same these days. Most of its bots and shills who do their PR saying whatever the latest turd the TV or gaming industry has produced is wonderful and the best while a lot of genuine people will complain its a giant turd and get thousands of downvotes and replys calling you racist or a trump supporter or far right. For example when the new star trek series came out I had this experience which is when I first realised something was "off".

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TheMAGAnificent 14 points ago +14 / -0

I remember after Bernie lost the first time and it was Hillary in the General, the NEXT day, as in the NEXT day, all of reddit changed. You couldn't talk about Bernie, and you could only focus on Hillary, otherwise you'd get spam blasted. All posts everywhere shifted and there was absolutely zero discourse, only pro-hillary and anti-trump news.

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Wtf_socialismreally 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes and one day you could shit talk Hillary as being shady and get hundreds of upvotes, then the next, literally the next day those same style of posts were flooded with downvotes.

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jb12458 6 points ago +6 / -0

Reddit changed a lot after Trump was elected, as did all the social media sites

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ItsOkayToBeWight 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember seeing someone show off histograms of accounts that shows extremely suspicious posting activity. Tons of consecutive posts with ~1 minute between posts was a sure sign of a bit. A regular user would have their time between posts very sporadic and random but the bots very consistently had obvious lines on this time of day/delay per post heatmap.

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MileHiLife 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hmm... 5%? Right around the current value of the Dollar, which has lost over 96% since 1913, with the creation of Fed Reserve & IRSss 🐍

Facts

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MetalThatMatters 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nunes

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Quixotic 17 points ago +17 / -0

I bet it’s closer to 66.6%

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INK10 11 points ago +11 / -0

I'm actually thinking closer to 80 percent. But knowing "them", and their numbers, you are probably correct.

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kish-kumen 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'd wager there are more fake Twitter accounts than there are fake numbers of <?> who were supposedly <?> in the <?> during the height of <?>.

It's a <fill-in-the-blank> game!

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MZakOne 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nice call.

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lsvogel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Or of those legit accounts of the so called blue check users, their millions of subscribers are 50-95% fake! Number of subs pumped way, way up!

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suave200 3 points ago +3 / -0

kinda like they do with our 'votes'.

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operation_eland 2 points ago +2 / -0

Manufacturing consensus. Knowing most people are sheep and will follow the herd even if its a fake herd. I know Cas Sunstein advocated for something along those lines but I don't know if he actually originated the idea or someone else in the PR industry did.

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RoloTomassi1723 1 point ago +1 / -0

THIS ^^^^

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TitoshandmadePatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

The real number is 80% + fake accounts,. It was 80% during the 2016 primaries and elections when. Rush Limbaugh talked about it. I imagine it much larger today.

You can look up the data yourself searching unique ip addresses for x site.

Twitter and Reddit share similar same data.

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TheRisen 33 points ago +33 / -0

Just wait till they do the same analysis on the worlds population.

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Oh_Well_ian 21 points ago +21 / -0

I've long held that the world's population is only half to three-quarters of what is claimed.

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FEARNOT 9 points ago +10 / -1

People move to the cities for jobs. The country is beautiful, spacious, and great without the commie trash.

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INK10 4 points ago +4 / -0

My formerly peaceful, less populated, mostly summer resort area has turned into typical overcrowded crap in the past twenty years. I grew up in this area and we used to joke that you could lie down on the main highway and take a nap in the middle of winter without getting run over.

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INK10 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ahh, another Clamdigger?

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surf-guitar1 3 points ago +3 / -0

i get that feeling, but also gather that developed land takes up less than 5% of the country?

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sgtnoodle 4 points ago +4 / -0

The forest behind my parents' house was recently turned into cookie cutter single story houses without backyards. $550k each, and they're mostly all sold.

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GDZeus 3 points ago +3 / -0

The county I live in is one of the (if not the) fastest growing county in our state at the moment. And if the highway gets backed up, traffic ends up coming down our back road that our neighborhood is on and gets so bad we can’t turn towards town out of our neighborhood, we would have to go the opposite way and go a round about way that is going way out the way just to get were we want to go. And companies from like NY want to make new home or apartment developments that butt up against established neighborhoods that want to use their only entrance/exit road for their development. More and more people moving here from everywhere over the last few years, it’s just crazy! Maybe because it’s a Republican state and people want out of states that are too controlling. To me Florida is the same way, it’s seems like it’s been overcrowded there for a long time now. I use to live in Florida, partly grew up there and still have family there.

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Burrito_Bandito 0 points ago +1 / -1

did you even read the article? the entire article is an explanation as to why that cities population is unusually small

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Oh_Well_ian 4 points ago +5 / -1

See, I don't believe a God damn thing that is in the news, ever. Did you read the article about how Biden explained inflation? Did you read the article how the 2020 election was not stolen? Did you read the article that thinking 9/11 was an inside job is a crackpot conspiracy theory?

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Oh_Well_ian 2 points ago +5 / -3

You can easily fake the amount of people in the world. I don't even know what the hell you're talking about, honestly. Your evidence is all anecdotal and personal. Plus, you're a handshake and seem overly committed to your weak argument.

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tstr 7 points ago +7 / -0

Illuminator? nice username anyways, I guess...

Increased traffic in your area can easily be explained by people moving to that area for opportunity or because of other appealing reasons. I would never think that congestion in a locale would be caused by increased population. Increased population of that area yes but no reason to extrapolate that out world wide.

As for world population, I don't believe a single number they tell us.

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Oh_Well_ian 1 point ago +2 / -1

And your premise is ridiculously insufficient and narrow. I can't think of a better way to hide depopulation and genocide than under the guise of an overpopulated world.

Climate Change and Sustainability narrative rely on these inflated numbers. Look at the links I provided to you. Where are the people? Hey, maybe they all moved to your hometown.

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Burrito_Bandito 1 point ago +2 / -1

idk why you are attacking him (sounds like you are the one overly committed to a weak argument).

We do know that China has miscounted their population by roughly 100 million so your theory has a sliver of truth (like most theories) at least. but what makes you think the entire worlds population is artificially inflated and what reasons would a cabal kf world leaders and census statisticians have for this?

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Oh_Well_ian 6 points ago +6 / -0

I stated it clearly in my comments. Sustainability and economic destruction because of mythical climate change depend on overpopulation and a narrative of limited resources.

For example, it was alleged that 6 million refugees left ukraine. Where are the pictures or video that support that number?. We see huge crowds of people stacking up at our Southern border but that is just thousands. Do you lack the imagination to understand what 6 million refugees would look like?

You're bending over backwards to believe NWO propaganda.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 3 points ago +3 / -0

idk why you are attacking him (sounds like you are the one overly committed to a weak argument).

Maybe for the same reason you're here shilling against Russia and sowing disinformation about Ukraine?

Illuminator's probably your second account or something. Kek.

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Mcmurdo32 1 point ago +1 / -0

China's ghost cities are because they don't really know how capitalism works, thinking if they just build it, people will come. Thus they do little market research and analysis to find out where people want to live and then build there.

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Burrito_Bandito 5 points ago +5 / -0

thats not even it, China has a massive balooning real estate bubble. its the only investment chinese citizens can make and since for decades real estate has only gone up they just keep buying. no matter how shitty the building or where its located it has always gone up in value.

so chinese people buy as many apartments as they can as future investments because thats all they bave known. it has gotten so extreme that the government had to limiti properties per household, so in response people get divorced on paper just so they can buy more.

so these ghost cities arise because developers know they can just build shit and people will buy it. this isnt a population conspiracy

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BillWhittle24 8 points ago +8 / -0

Dude, you know what? You might really be on to something here.

What if the entire global population was actually 500,000,000 or less, and every war, abortion and famine was created to keep that limit? That would be fucking mind blowing.

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MegaMAGAMichiPede 1 point ago +1 / -0

Now THAT is a rabbit hole to go down, fren.

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Mcmurdo32 4 points ago +4 / -0

Since funding received and political power within a jurisdiction's nation is often based on population, there is a strong incentive to over count. So your assumption is reasonable.

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RugerP89 0 points ago +1 / -1

Eh, obvious from the 16 year plan that the Globalist Clowns get a stiffy from world depopulation. What would be their reason to high ball the numbers? Simply a resource scarcity push? That fear pron seemed to peak in the 90s.

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TheRisen 3 points ago +3 / -0

To artificially inflate everything, not enough houses to go around, not enough food for world, not enough medicine to make it free. Look how many people have died of covid, look how many people got jabbed... you better get jabbed too.

Why would they fake population numbers... Well why would they fake twitter accounts...

Slavery, mind control. The more people they create the less control the real people have.

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Bgtholt88 22 points ago +22 / -0

I feel bad for the dummies who bought a bunch of twitter stock and are still holding it. This does not end well for twitter.

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deleteme1234 4 points ago +4 / -0

Buy 1 for the possible class action settlement

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PepeSee 3 points ago +3 / -0

But wait till it hits say 10 bucks

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deleteme1234 1 point ago +1 / -0

If you're confident it'll hit 10 bucks, you can make money off of that knowledge. Purchase put options.

The purchase of a put option is interpreted as a negative sentiment about the future value of the underlying stock.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good point....

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SocratesKnowsNothing 16 points ago +16 / -0

it all makes now. what better way to expose the fraud. every sheep and every news rag has been reporting this so a sudden halt from the rags will only serve to create the Streisand effect for those sheep. the poor sheeple babies are being forcefully awakened from their sleep

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pby1000 15 points ago +15 / -0

It's because they keep banning real accounts. Lol.

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Cyberhawk 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is very plausible. With a crap ton banned, fake ones were created to cover the “loss”. Good thinking.

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ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points ago +2 / -0

My theory is that is why so many conservative accounts were magically re-enabled the same day Mark Hamill and other leftists lost 2000-8000+ followers.

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Cyberhawk 1 point ago +1 / -0

I assume thats the shadow ban people referred to? Like hiding subscriptions and followers from both parties. All about the numbers I suppose. Dirty business.

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Wtf_socialismreally 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shadowbanning is a multifaceted blanket term at this point that applies to quite a few different methods of doing so, from hiding posts from other people, to hiding their upvotes or downvotes, to hiding their ability to be searched up, etc.

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Hodar 12 points ago +12 / -0

The damage to Twitter, exposed by Elon, cannot be understated.

Oxley-Sarbanes Act of 2002 - Sarbanes-Oxley makes it a crime to defraud shareholders of publicly traded companies through the filing of misleading financial reports. Executives face fines of up to $1 million and ten years imprisonment for knowingly certifying financial reports that don't comply with the SOX's requirements

Elon can walk away, without incurring any penalties, due to fraud. So the stock could then go into free-fall.

Shareholders now have cause to sue Twitter. First, by fraudulently filing SEC reports, shareholders were intentionally given bad information, by which they made financial decisions. This is a Class Action Law Suit.

Advertisers were defrauded, as the rate they were charged for advertising on that platform, was based on the number of Active Accounts, which were intentionally inflated. This is a Class Action Law Suit.

It's bad, it's very, very bad.

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spaceforceltc 5 points ago +5 / -0

He can walk away from buying the whole thing, but he'll still own that 10% that he bought earlier, making him the largest stakeholder in the eventual class action suit.

Twitter is done. And the timing could not be better with the emergence of Truth Social.

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M-I-vet 4 points ago +4 / -0

Excellent points... I had not factored in SOX rules and regulations for publicly traded companies... yeah, it's very very bad. Which is good.

Now, the question is: do many of these same problems also apply to FakeBook? Hmmm...

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BWolf79 5 points ago +5 / -0

And are they still counting my permanently suspended account?? Probably so...

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Devolution1776 [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

And all 4 of mine

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Donny_Fiasco 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's some heat right there.

Burn it down baby

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ToeBlake34 4 points ago +4 / -0

Interesting number 66m …..

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Honeypot02 4 points ago +4 / -0

Can’t say I’m completely shocked he’s backing out, now that a lot of tech stocks are collapsing in price (Facebook, Netflix, etc)

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Devolution1776 [S] 2 points ago +3 / -1

Hopefully, Twitter dies. Truth Social is #1. Trump TV is coming. Simply too much winning.

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Wtf_socialismreally 1 point ago +1 / -0

At the very least, he's devaluing a company he intends to buy by exposing their shitty practices and lies, which is just good business.

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DoozerChuck 4 points ago +4 / -0

You can draw them to comment too

Say something very controversial in a large older post. You will get one or two replies giving you "facts"

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Captntrouble 3 points ago +3 / -0

this was the plan the whole time i bet....

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FEARNOT 3 points ago +4 / -1

Liberal commies screw up everything.

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hothousecreekguy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tell twatter to F.O. Elon!!!

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SarahRosie86 4 points ago +4 / -0

He can't bring this to court if he gives up....how do u insert evidence legally? You buy it. Twitter will fall under it's own weight by doing this...he won't buy Twitter he'll let it fall then buy up DWAC at pennies on the dollar...

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spaceforceltc 3 points ago +3 / -0

The phrase "4D chess" gets thrown around and over-used quite a bit, but in this case, I truly feel that Elon Musk has been playing 4-D chess the entire time with Twitter.

He is forcing Twitter's dirty laundry to be aired. Ultimately, Twitter will either be completely irrelevant afterwards and nearly worthless, or Elon will own it at a significant discount and he will transform it away from a social media platform and into his own web-scale technology company supplementing Tesla, SpaceX, and Neuralink.

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Rootcause 2 points ago +2 / -0

66 you say? Sure it isn't 66.6? They like that # 666.

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AgnosticTemplar 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think focusing on the number of bot accounts is missing the forest for the trees. It's been widely known for several years now that 80% of all tweets posted come from only 10% of users, how many of those 10% are bots?

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placekicker17 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am enjoying this part of the movie. Can he buy Dominion next?

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HappyPupAxel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Take note of all the blue wave/Ukraine flag accounts. You see those accounts a lot, yes? Most of them are bots, so the percentage of fake accounts is high. Now take into consideration all the real users they banned the last 4 years and its even higher.

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Chimera 2 points ago +2 / -0

I definitely like what Elon is doing here. Even if it's not part of the plan, clearly it was his plan all along to expose twitter through this deal.

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Hoshi 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let's see twitter release a different type of CAPTCHA every day and see what "active" accounts don't tweet at all for a whole week

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Katrina241 2 points ago +2 / -0

The account I despise?

@mmpadellan BrooklynDad_Defiant

I did the Elon test on his account and over 25% are bots.

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Hoshi 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think it funny how BrooklynDad became artificially a big deal thanks to Twitter. He has a youtube channel and seems to only get 200-500 views per video with his "massive" twitter following.

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SolarWinds123 2 points ago +2 / -0

Being as that cost to advertise is based on the size of the audience, will current/past advertisements be owed retributions?

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lsvogel 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wowzer! Check the stock prices daily! TWITTER = Down she goes!

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MetalThatMatters 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hold their feet to the fire. Lying bastards.

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Jacurutu99 2 points ago +2 / -0

And they ALL loved Biden.

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Knotnow 1 point ago +1 / -0

It would be interesting to see the influence of elections on the number of bot accounts.

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Soperp 1 point ago +1 / -0

i said it before but no one I know uses twitter. facebook yes

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Letthepiecesfall17 1 point ago +1 / -0

While the act of exposing this is amazing, and does seem to be a win for free speech, I don’t trust Elon for a second. Could he have deeper motives to all of this? https://youtu.be/AeEK7yCP72c

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comlib 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah but 95% of them are shilling NFTs.

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davidwilcox -1 points ago +1 / -2

Most fake accounts are not political bots, but are created by hackers by the thousands and verified automatically. They get sold and used by people to spam promotions and such. Many of them probably never get used beyond whatever steps the creator took a single time to establish the legitimacy of the user with Twitter's algorithms.

An example: https://accsmarket.com/en/catalog/twitter