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Fifth Circuit Court rules SEC can't regulate markets πŸ‘€β—β— (media.greatawakening.win) πŸ’₯ B O O O O O M πŸ’₯
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lsdQ [S] 102 points ago +102 / -0

Declaring administrative hearings a violation of the 7th amendment is an enormous ruling. it's been considered constitutional because you can always appeal the agency ruling in district court, which is incredibly expensive and as a result almost noone ever does it, but you theoretically can.

If SCOTUS backs this it will basically dismantle the administrative state.

Link to the ruling: https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/20/20-61007-CV0.pdf

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Mr_A 85 points ago +85 / -0

Next up: IRS.

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xchainlinkx 45 points ago +45 / -0

Don't forget the ATF

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PlumberFag 42 points ago +42 / -0

And FDA

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therobots 38 points ago +38 / -0

And CDC

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Island_Photo 33 points ago +33 / -0

EPA, Homeland Security? this is akin to DOT "Regulations" such as banning Passenger/driver window tint.. those do not hold up in court either..

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JizmJunky 22 points ago +22 / -0

All 3 letter bureaucracies should be dissolved. We dont have a king in the US, we have a million little kings in the form of the administrative state. 100% unelected.

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AmericanVictory 4 points ago +4 / -0

And the BFD

Sorry -- I couldn't restrain myself KEK

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Darwyn 7 points ago +7 / -0

Now do BLM. I wonder how this effects the Bundy Ranch thing. Hmmmm....

How many people over decades have been denied due process??? What a can of worms this is.

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FreeMainiac 18 points ago +18 / -0

And my HOA? G*d dammit I hate those pricks

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PompeiusMagnus 8 points ago +8 / -0

Sell your house and buy one where there's not an HOA...

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FreeMainiac 4 points ago +4 / -0

F'n A, Cotton!

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WildWestWarrior 6 points ago +6 / -0

I’m looking into buying my first house soon and I refuse to purchase a home with an HOA fee.. I’m also finding that there’s more to buying a house than property taxes and the monthly payments, which I’ve grilled my parents about where all the hidden costs come from and who gets them because it’s insane!

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summerstormAK 6 points ago +6 / -0

Be aware that you can get into a house with an HOA even if there isn't any fee. This is just one reason to READ THE REAL ESTATE CONTRACT VERY CAREFULLY before signing it! Almost no one does this.

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45-4KAG 4 points ago +4 / -0

I recommend looking at using a credit union for a loan. They usually don't have the hidden BS fees.

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scurfie 2 points ago +2 / -0

As a homeowner, I soon learned you really don't own the home. You own the right to live there and pay taxes. If you do not pay your taxes they take your home from you.

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FreeMainiac 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ya, that part sucks. I had to have PMI on my loan, then there's insurance, utilities, and maintenance. That can be the worst part, depending on how old the home is or how it was constructed. My place was 40 years old when I bought it. I've replaced every appliance in 5 years since I moved in and had to fix 2 dozen other things. Youtube is your friend when it comes to home repairs if you don't know how to do a particular job. You're about to discover how good of a plumber, carpenter, landscaper, painter and electrician you can be and if you need to call someone to do a repair, how much that can cost. If the place holds together, however, you pay a lot less than you would in rent and then you have equity also. At this moment, if I was you, I'd save up your money and wait for the imminent housing bubble pop.

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inquimous 2 points ago +2 / -0

I owned a condo for 15 years and the cumulative fees equalled the purchase price by then.

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inquimous 2 points ago +2 / -0

Is there anyone who liked their HOA, other than the little tyrants on the board? I never heard of it.

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therobots 2 points ago +2 / -0

Take over and then.... yeah nevermind. kek

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lalahemingway 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hated ours too, so we moved. It's been freakin' heaven ever since. I highly encourage it.

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Lawjic 2 points ago +2 / -0

All the TLAs?

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Mr_A 6 points ago +6 / -0

And the FDA. Once the dam breaks, nobody will care which crack was first.

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dec3169 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hunter will.

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intellectual-darkweb 16 points ago +16 / -0

OSHA, EPA

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CheekyBastard 7 points ago +7 / -0

TSA, DHS, Dept of Ed, Dept of Energy.

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dec3169 4 points ago +4 / -0

Hell, with the vax mandates the DoD is just as bad.

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into_the_continuum 5 points ago +5 / -0

This applies to EVERYTHING. Even state courts and traffic courts. You have a right of trial by jury. Period.

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Mcmurdo32 29 points ago +29 / -0

So if this is upheld, then when a government agency wants to enforce a regulation on a citizen or entity, it will have to sue in court where they will have the burden of proof. Am I understanding this correctly?

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tstr 16 points ago +16 / -0

Pretty much what it is doing it's beginning the dismantling of the administrative state. The administrative state is where they basically run their own courts and then legislate using the courts which is completely unconstitutional and this is exactly what should happen. Personally I hope they burn the whole f****** thing down.

Also this is one of the weapons the deep state uses to inflict their will on the people so that so this is absolutely wonderful That this is happening

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teppischfresser 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes. The title of this post is not entirely correct. The SEC or any federal agency can still regulate markets, BUT they can't be judge, jury, and executioner. You know have to go through proper courts and not the SEC's own court with judges that will not be neutral.

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Mr_A 16 points ago +16 / -0

All the upset lawyers in the comment section.

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NOT_ADMIN 8 points ago +8 / -0

Can you explain this to me in another way, it is still unclear to me what the impact of this is, and what they were doing.

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scoripowarrior 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's the same question I have. This is confusing. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

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Darwyn 11 points ago +11 / -0

Think of it like this. They now have to give you your full due process rights if you demand them. That means a petty bureaucrat has to get a court date and put you in front of a jury to bleed you dry. He can't just call up a panel made up of other petty bureaucrats and get them to rubber stamp your life being ruined.

With the courts being overloaded it will force them to negotiate in good faith and work deals that most likely favor the citizen. The current system is basically hey offer you a "deal" that sucks balls and you either take it or they rubber stamp your destruction. That's assuming you get a nice guy or don't piss him off. Call your IRS agent a son of a bitch and the next thing you know you're doing jail time. Just because he doesn't like you.

Now that same petty son of a bitch has to get a jury of your peers to agree you need to have a hot poker shoved up your ass just because you called him a mean name.

The jury system is broken FYI. People are taught in school to trust authorities and such... don't think for yourself, look it up... trust the government agent... the DA... the IRS/ATF/FBI etc but hopefully we can reverse that problem and with sane juries then proper due process will castrate the government. It will no longer be all powerful. We The People will have power back.

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into_the_continuum 4 points ago +4 / -0

Think of it like this. They now have to give you your full due process rights if you demand them.

This should also mean you get full due process when you sue them :)

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dec3169 3 points ago +3 / -0

Maybe this will open up the can of worms at the ATF with their stupid $200 "tax stamp" and their notorious, punitive slow-walking of the unnecessary paperwork.. I'd love to get a suppressor/silencer to save what little bit of hearing I have left after all those years in computer rooms. Plus if the ATF is forced to get rid of that scam maybe more people would buy them and use them at the gun ranges.

That just might save some of them from going out of business or being sued for excessive noise pollution by the surrounding subdivisions that want to shut them down.

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Darwyn 1 point ago +1 / -0

To the best of my knowledge the $200 tax tamp thing is because congress won't fix that properly. That comes from a law written like 150 years ago... if I remember correctly. The cabal won't allow congress to fix it because they want the ATF to be able to harass We The People with stupid BS. Not sure how much this would effect that. Well I do know the one way it would effect it is they would have to give you a trail to say you broke their stupid rules.

Our gun laws need some major reworking. Maybe if we get rid of the deep state cabal that can be done.

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CheekyBastard 8 points ago +8 / -0

This is a very good thing. Basically saying that little bureaucrats have NO authority whatsoever to take any sort of action against the people without a trial. Meaning no fines, no jail time, etc. just because some little government fuck says so.

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AngelCole 39 points ago +39 / -0

It seems we are moving back to the original Constitution, slowly but surely.πŸ‘πŸŽ‰

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mmtwo 7 points ago +7 / -0

looks like baby steps..but i will take it

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Q20191776 4 points ago +4 / -0

Upvote #17!!

Back To The Constitution!!!

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everticus 2 points ago +2 / -0

If this stands it will be HUUUGE. All administrative agencies implementing "laws" will be dismantled.

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lalahemingway 1 point ago +1 / -0

YASSSS!

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SiKniSS 35 points ago +35 / -0

big big big... dismantling the administrative state also defangs the IRS from prosecuting people.

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CavePeasant 4 points ago +5 / -1

Yep. Huge. Last thing we need is the fuckin IRS of all things stealing our gains.

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BeerMan 1 point ago +1 / -0
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M-I-vet 12 points ago +12 / -0

Well, this came out of left field... I had no idea this was even going on.

Huge implications - but does it have to go to the Supreme Court? Since the 5th Circuit has ruled, these restrictions go into effect pretty much immediately, no?

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AnonDan 7 points ago +7 / -0

I would assume the sec will appeal, that’s how it gets to the supreme.

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honestlynow 1 point ago +1 / -0

Left field, that's probably where Q is hiding ;) Who is this patriot 28?

I'm really thrilled by all this. I'm thinking that Q has a number of these patriots taking actions like this seemingly out of left field to take our country back. I wonder what's next?

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Blue-collar745 11 points ago +11 / -0

Trump spent most of his term flipping courts. While the fifth court was already Republican, I’m sure he made it even redder. https://www.rpc.senate.gov/policy-papers/flipping-circuit-courts

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dty6 11 points ago +11 / -0

holy cow

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dty6 6 points ago +6 / -0

deported for sticky :) this is HUGE

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numina22 10 points ago +10 / -0

Anyone speak legalese here??? Please translate.

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MAGAdeburger 26 points ago +26 / -0

Congress alone has the authority and responsibility to legislate (make law). Congress cannot just delegate away that power to the Executive branch, which then further delegates it away to agencies which mostly aren't even established by Congress but are rather only funded through appropriations.

In other words, Congress has a job. They aren't doing their job, but instead waste their time on bullshit while tasking shitheads to do their job for them.

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M-I-vet 2 points ago +2 / -0

... eees no my chob, meng.

Speaking of the illegality of delegation, this also applies to all the fear porn currently going around that a bunch of chuckleheads in Switzerland (WHO) can vote themselves the power to be able to take over national sovereignty whenever they feel like it. Nope, not gonna happen. That is not how things work in reality.

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SoMuchWinning45 19 points ago +19 / -0

It's deliberately designed to be complicated so laymen cannot understand it.

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Cpleb 14 points ago +14 / -0

And all this time I just thought I was retarded.

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Wtf_socialismreally 10 points ago +10 / -0

You are, but most people are in some way, it's okay buddy, I'm retarded too

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IamWearingaDress 8 points ago +8 / -0

Don't worry scrote. Lots of tards are out there living kick ass lives. My sister is tarded. She's a pilot now.

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catbertz 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was "my first wife was tarded", but you're probably tarded too, since you're wearing a dress and all. 🍺😁

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CheekyBastard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Usernamne checks out.

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Wtf_socialismreally 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hey now, socialists are a special kind of retard

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SoMuchWinning45 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you hold Gamestop, you're happily retarded with all the other apes.

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BQnita 3 points ago +4 / -1

...and therefore not question it. Til now.

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Angela84 19 points ago +19 / -0

Lots of agencies like IRS, FDA and everything make rules that sort of follow the law. If it seems like there rules suck and don't do what the law says, too bad follow anyway. Now agencies would have to listen when people say they are being unfair, possibly stop.

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HunnyB 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh damn that's a good boom.

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b472113 11 points ago +11 / -0

Vaccine mandate would be rendered moot

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mmtwo 1 point ago +1 / -0

i saw it on pol earlier. and was waiting on the lawfaggs to explain.

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horseyPatriot 9 points ago +9 / -0

WOW!!

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scoripowarrior 9 points ago +9 / -0

So it seems the "administrative state" is a bunch of "unelected bureaucrats" !

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M-I-vet 2 points ago +2 / -0

So it seems the "administrative state" is a bunch of "unelected bureaucrats" !

Yeah. Almost like a "deep state" or something...

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into_the_continuum 2 points ago +2 / -0

A 4th branch of government created out of thin air.

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MakeAmericaWinAgain 2 points ago +2 / -0

5th behind BlackRock

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Shalimar 1 point ago +1 / -0

Shocking!!! Why didn't we think of that?? /s

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Gotrek 8 points ago +8 / -0

Spicy

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MAGADITTOS 5 points ago +5 / -0

Incredibly interesting development.

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dipchunk 5 points ago +5 / -0

How would this impact the WHO power grab planned for next week in Davos if this vote could potentially nullify vaccine mandates? Is there any connection?

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Q20191776 6 points ago +6 / -0

That is unconstitutional too.

Imho.

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Blue-collar745 4 points ago +4 / -0

Now this is winning

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queue-anon 4 points ago +4 / -0

What does this mean for GME?

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Ssue1216 1 point ago +1 / -0

My thoughts as well. This and dwac

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slowtalkinwalter 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the pressing question right now.

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throwawayforyou 2 points ago +2 / -0

wen moass

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CanadaWaker 4 points ago +4 / -0

soo now dwac take off?

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GetsTheNogginJoggin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Would this also void mandatory arbitration and settlement clauses in contracts, then?

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InmatesRunTheAsylum 3 points ago +3 / -0

So does the same then hold true for every other 3 letter agency including the IRS?

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catbertz 3 points ago +3 / -0

Wouldn't it be nice if all the agency fake laws madness just disappeared, and sanity spread across our nation again.

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AmericanVictory 2 points ago +2 / -0

What an amazing time we live in! As harsh as things have been for us, it is clear that we are witnessing the systematic dismantling of the globalist cabal and its DeepShit.

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_Canadianon_ 2 points ago +2 / -0

What's this mean for gamestop ? I need crayon drawings to understand things.

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l177l3l4dy10 2 points ago +2 / -0

How does this affect Elon's Twatter deal? And screw James Whitey Bulger ;)

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Ssue1216 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is exciting!

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CavePeasant 0 points ago +1 / -1

Here we GOOOOOOOOOOO