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๐Ÿ”ฅโš–๏ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ TechnoFog's Take: Michael Sussmann has been acquitted ๐Ÿ”ฅโš–๏ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ (technofog.substack.com)
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– Tewdryg 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I understand what you're saying. I agree. Sussman, Baker, Joffa, and others are all part of the conspiracy. Even if the jury recognized by the evidence shown that the FBI was part of the conspiracy, it doesn't negate the charge against Sussman. Sussman lied and its provable. I want all the fish, little and large, to fry.

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– MeanOMan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

by the way.. it was Sussman's attorney's strategy to convince the Jury that Baker and other agents knew that Sussman was working for Hillary.

essentially in on the lie, an not fooled by it, making the lie immaterial

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– Tewdryg 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

"making the lie immaterial"

Whether the lie was material or immaterial, it is still a lie. The jury was not tasked with this premise either. Did Sussman lie. Yes. His testimony before Congress proves this. Sussman lied, but was was not convicted because of a very biased jury.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

yes they where man.. sorry, but your just not understanding the instructions and perjury law...

You can lie to the FBI... You can say, "I have a pretty girlfriend." Then go out and tell the CIA... "My girlfriend is dog ass ugly." Then tell congress... "My girlfriend is smart but looks are just ok."

unless the lie is material to an investigation, its not perjury

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– MeanOMan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

someone lied... not sure why Sussman would have to lie, Baker was in on it

Sussman was innocent of the charges unless Baker was not in on it. The moment Baker is in on it, it makes Sussman's lie immaterial.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The charge against Sussman was lying to the FBI. He actually said to Baker he was not representing a client when he knowingly was. Sussman lied to the FBI and its provable by his statement before Congress. Whether Baker was in on the conspiracy is another case. Durham used Sussman's peccadillo for laying a wider net. I don't care how small the fish are. I want justice.

Lying to the FBI is considered to be verbal or non-verbal. The threshold is outrageously biased to anything the FBI wants to interpret. Many people have gone to prison for their silence in not answering a question or forgetting a detail of the event. All are considered lying to the FBI. On the flip side it is legal for the FBI to lie to you and me.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

AGAIN!! You don't know for fact he told Baker... All you have his Baker saying he did. Of course Baker is going to say he lied, because if Baker tagged it to prevent a political investigation from getting squashed because of Bureau rules, then BAKER goes to jail.

You understand... If Baker doesn't say Sussman lied, Baker goes to jail, because Baker told the his subs he was not working for a client.

It's not like Baker didn't have a motive to lie, he did... He knew for fact Sussman worked for Hillary. Sussman, Baker, Elias, and the whole party probably Zoomed 15 min before Sussman walked across the street to give him the evidence....

The whole fucking thing was planned.

It would be like one bankrobber wearing a mask in a private room with the other bankrobber even though they know each other... It's immaterial...

Doesn't mean I don't think Sussman took part in a lie to the FBI because he did!! Everyone on the Hillary team took part in that lie.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"You don't know for fact he told Baker... All you have his Baker saying he did."

There's more. Durham has all of Sussman's billing statements. Billing records showed Sussmann charged his time for working the Alfa Bank hoaxโ€”including the time he spent meeting with the FBIโ€™s General Counsel Bakerโ€”to the Clinton campaign. In fact, late last week, the jury in the Sussmann case learned that Sussmann even charged the Clinton campaign for two thumb drives purchased at Staples used for the Alfa Bank project.

"It would be like one bankrobber wearing a mask in a private room with the other bankrobber even though they know each other... It's immaterial..."

Except at this point in time, only one bankrobber was being charged for lying to the FBI. The other isn't right now. More to come though.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

One more quick question to ask yourself....

What if Baker had a conversation with Elias over the phone, and Elias asked Baker if he would lie to the Bureau to get the investigation opened.

Baker tells Elias to send a patsy by the office with the evidence, and he'll do the rest...

So Elias sends Sussman over with the evidence, and says nothing about working for Hillary.... What this entire plan was concocted by Elias and Baker?

Plausible? FUCK YES its not just plausible, there was a lot of testimony in the trial that came out that could support it.

Is Sussman guilty if that took place?

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It doesn't matter how factual this is. The question is it relevant to the charge made against Sussman. No.

It appears the FBI had an office at Perkin Coie. Is it relevant to the charge against Sussman? No.

There's more to come though with more indictments. The FBI looks like they have some 'splainin' to do.

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