I just charge it at home, at night. Haven't needed to charge it at a charging station in years. No need to stop for 5 minutes at the gas station either, just keep on going. My electric bill did go up by about $40/month, but that's nothing compared to gas prices these days
So basically what you're saying is you don't really go anywhere? You never go farther than 300 miles or so from home? Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun, being a slave to your electric car so you don't have to charge it at a charging station...lol.
Electric vehicles use basically no energy while idling in traffic. The only energy usage is that A/C and maybe a radio. I bet my electric car can stay cool idling longer than your SUV can.
Also, the car doesn't "shut off" at 20%. I don't know where you got that info.
IF you wish...drive your ELECTRO CAR in fully charged, and let it and then a some point full stop WITHOUT PUTTING THE CAR IN NEUTRAL sit there idling...WITH THE A/C ON!!!!!!
Take pictures of the instrument (all) before and then when it reaches the 20% mark take another picture and then finally when the battery gets to zero!!!!!!!
I've had this thing for 6 years now. It's been my everyday vehicle for those past 6 years. I know what i know, and i don't have to prove anything to random internet folk. Either believe my experience, or don't, i don't really care, lol.
So basically what you're saying is you regularly drive 300+ miles from home? That's good and all, but 99% of my daily needs are within 20 miles from my house. I have a gas SUV as well, but why spend money on gasoline if I'm only going 3 miles from my house to pick up groceries?
You can keep paying that $7/gallon though, to drive 300+ miles for groceries. Have fun. Won't bother me any.
Mentioning the gas suv makes more sense of having an electric car for the daily. So you do atleast have the opportunity to drive the gas vehicle if you wanted to go on a road trip with your family or take a vacation that was more than 300 miles from home. And gas is about 4.85 where I live not 7 but it doesn't make it any less bullshit. I was paying almost sub 2 dollars for a gallon of gas for 4 years of Trump. I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to pay for it even of it goes substantially higher but a lot of people don't have that option and they feel the biggest burden. It's all by design like everything else is. Taking a play from the KGB. Have to demoralize the people. Yuri wasn't lying when he told us.
About 15 years ago I was considering going totally solar. At the time the utility companies were not offering these deals where they install some panels on your roof 'for free' and then you pay them a flat amount each month for a contracted period regardless of usage like they do now.
So, back then, I was living in a hot, desert climate. My utility bills were high in the summer and low in the winter.
I had to do my own investigation to find a vendor, an installer, and electrician. I'd have to order the panels from the manufacturer and have it delivered and then installed locally by someone. I researched all the solar panel manufacturers across the country and emailed them with my questions. They asked me for my utility bill usage info and calculated what I would need to convert my home to go completely solar.
At the time, my 3,000 sf house had energy bills as high as $500 per mo in the summer and $200 in the winter. They came back with this info:
20 year lifespan of the panels themselves
3,800 s.f. of solar panels needed (Where to put? Larger than my roof span)
$250,000.00 = solar panels only
$$ = +Add for delivery, + install and + connection to local utility company meters.
So. If I considered the cost of the panels ONLY, and they were only good for 20 years, here's how it would pencil out:
12 months x 20 years = 240 months lifespan. $250,000.00 divided by 240 months = $1,042 per month (not including interest).
It clearly made no sense. So, I didn't do it.
I'm sure the solar products have improved since then, but man! There's gotta be a better way.
After 20 years your panels lose some capability. Not all of it. I am looking at used panels. About 10-20 cents per watt. I can get enough to power my house for a few thousand. The used ones generally are 95-99%. Then I need a big inverter or a micro inverter for each panel. The whole system would cost about 5k plus installation. I can do everything myself except the actual tie to the pole.
The batteries are the expensive part. Lithium ion. Add another 10-30k depending on how much back up I want.
I got bids from 25-30k for grid tie, no batteries with install included.
I can’t imagine where they would get a price of 250k. That’s crazy.
Yeah, I thought so, too. The big problem was powering up two large A/C units, two refrigerators, stove, oven microwave, computers, tvs, lights, washer, dryer, water heater, etc., all maybe running simultaneously or nearly.
I've thought about just getting enough to power the fridges, microwave, hot water heater and computers/phones and a couple of lights in case of emergency.
I need to talk with someone who is better versed on the newest options so I don't make a mistake.
I have just two 325W panels that charge batteries during the day and the excess runs my three office computer systems. When the sun goes, mains electricity takes over (during the night and bad weather). I probably spent the equivalent of $1500. For this I get several hours of power when the mains electricity is offline (as happens frequently on our island). It's for convenience - not saving money.
So tell me again how we hate fossil fuels. Just another scam to curb people’s movements by using expensive form of fossil fuel to charge a battery, for less travel mileage. I have said this all along, you have to get the energy from somewhere to power the battery and it sure isn’t from windmills. Plus it will take more time to wait for a charge. So more of your valuable time and money is lost charging a vehicle with less distance with a short term battery life, which you may not even be able to get the battery if the foreign government which makes them, refuses to sell to the U.S. This is NOT a win:win situation. Then how good is it health wise for passengers to be sitting on the battery power source,or the driver who is close to the battery? Every plan by the Left and government seems to be ill thought out.
The Volt was a good concept car. The battery replaces the transmission, and the electric motor requires a lot less maintenance than an internal combustion engine. The generator is designed to maximize battery life (as opposed to a Tesla, or a Bolt). It's more like a car version of a diesel electric locomotive- taking advantage of the good parts of electricity and gasoline. But basically a two-seater, unless you're a family of hobbits.
That is funny as hell
probably 4x vaxxed
Sitting on a battery. Bet that’s good for the nads.
They'll just glow blue for a few hours after exiting the vehicle. No biggie. 😕
Well of course duh? Most of these people have no clue until a few years from now ...
I just charge it at home, at night. Haven't needed to charge it at a charging station in years. No need to stop for 5 minutes at the gas station either, just keep on going. My electric bill did go up by about $40/month, but that's nothing compared to gas prices these days
So basically what you're saying is you don't really go anywhere? You never go farther than 300 miles or so from home? Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun, being a slave to your electric car so you don't have to charge it at a charging station...lol.
NOW imagine, if you will, going to LA Freeway at Rush Hour and there is a wreck on a HOT Summer day...
And 10% of the cars are ELECTRIC!!!!!!!!!
Imagine the drivers consternation when the needle pegs to 20% and the car shuts off and the A/C stops working!!!!!!!
OMG!!!!!!! Mech. Eng!!!!!!!!
Electric vehicles use basically no energy while idling in traffic. The only energy usage is that A/C and maybe a radio. I bet my electric car can stay cool idling longer than your SUV can.
Also, the car doesn't "shut off" at 20%. I don't know where you got that info.
IF you wish...drive your ELECTRO CAR in fully charged, and let it and then a some point full stop WITHOUT PUTTING THE CAR IN NEUTRAL sit there idling...WITH THE A/C ON!!!!!!
Take pictures of the instrument (all) before and then when it reaches the 20% mark take another picture and then finally when the battery gets to zero!!!!!!!
Like you have alluded too...
I've had this thing for 6 years now. It's been my everyday vehicle for those past 6 years. I know what i know, and i don't have to prove anything to random internet folk. Either believe my experience, or don't, i don't really care, lol.
So basically what you're saying is you regularly drive 300+ miles from home? That's good and all, but 99% of my daily needs are within 20 miles from my house. I have a gas SUV as well, but why spend money on gasoline if I'm only going 3 miles from my house to pick up groceries?
You can keep paying that $7/gallon though, to drive 300+ miles for groceries. Have fun. Won't bother me any.
Mentioning the gas suv makes more sense of having an electric car for the daily. So you do atleast have the opportunity to drive the gas vehicle if you wanted to go on a road trip with your family or take a vacation that was more than 300 miles from home. And gas is about 4.85 where I live not 7 but it doesn't make it any less bullshit. I was paying almost sub 2 dollars for a gallon of gas for 4 years of Trump. I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to pay for it even of it goes substantially higher but a lot of people don't have that option and they feel the biggest burden. It's all by design like everything else is. Taking a play from the KGB. Have to demoralize the people. Yuri wasn't lying when he told us.
Do you think they will ever get it?
Unless it is solar, it is not free.
How much power is required to create a consistent solar panel? How many years does it work? Does it happens to reach a positive return of investment?
Edit: how do you recycle it?
About 15 years ago I was considering going totally solar. At the time the utility companies were not offering these deals where they install some panels on your roof 'for free' and then you pay them a flat amount each month for a contracted period regardless of usage like they do now.
So, back then, I was living in a hot, desert climate. My utility bills were high in the summer and low in the winter.
I had to do my own investigation to find a vendor, an installer, and electrician. I'd have to order the panels from the manufacturer and have it delivered and then installed locally by someone. I researched all the solar panel manufacturers across the country and emailed them with my questions. They asked me for my utility bill usage info and calculated what I would need to convert my home to go completely solar.
At the time, my 3,000 sf house had energy bills as high as $500 per mo in the summer and $200 in the winter. They came back with this info:
20 year lifespan of the panels themselves
3,800 s.f. of solar panels needed (Where to put? Larger than my roof span)
$250,000.00 = solar panels only
$$ = +Add for delivery, + install and + connection to local utility company meters.
So. If I considered the cost of the panels ONLY, and they were only good for 20 years, here's how it would pencil out: 12 months x 20 years = 240 months lifespan. $250,000.00 divided by 240 months = $1,042 per month (not including interest).
It clearly made no sense. So, I didn't do it.
I'm sure the solar products have improved since then, but man! There's gotta be a better way.
After 20 years your panels lose some capability. Not all of it. I am looking at used panels. About 10-20 cents per watt. I can get enough to power my house for a few thousand. The used ones generally are 95-99%. Then I need a big inverter or a micro inverter for each panel. The whole system would cost about 5k plus installation. I can do everything myself except the actual tie to the pole.
The batteries are the expensive part. Lithium ion. Add another 10-30k depending on how much back up I want.
I got bids from 25-30k for grid tie, no batteries with install included.
I can’t imagine where they would get a price of 250k. That’s crazy.
Yeah, I thought so, too. The big problem was powering up two large A/C units, two refrigerators, stove, oven microwave, computers, tvs, lights, washer, dryer, water heater, etc., all maybe running simultaneously or nearly.
I've thought about just getting enough to power the fridges, microwave, hot water heater and computers/phones and a couple of lights in case of emergency.
I need to talk with someone who is better versed on the newest options so I don't make a mistake.
Wind!! /s
I'll have a nice day....
I have just two 325W panels that charge batteries during the day and the excess runs my three office computer systems. When the sun goes, mains electricity takes over (during the night and bad weather). I probably spent the equivalent of $1500. For this I get several hours of power when the mains electricity is offline (as happens frequently on our island). It's for convenience - not saving money.
True. I want to get Solar Panels for my house but haven't yet
These people look so serious when they lie …
So tell me again how we hate fossil fuels. Just another scam to curb people’s movements by using expensive form of fossil fuel to charge a battery, for less travel mileage. I have said this all along, you have to get the energy from somewhere to power the battery and it sure isn’t from windmills. Plus it will take more time to wait for a charge. So more of your valuable time and money is lost charging a vehicle with less distance with a short term battery life, which you may not even be able to get the battery if the foreign government which makes them, refuses to sell to the U.S. This is NOT a win:win situation. Then how good is it health wise for passengers to be sitting on the battery power source,or the driver who is close to the battery? Every plan by the Left and government seems to be ill thought out.
Oh so it’s come on SAY IT YES you can COAL say it after me COAL, there now ... 😂
Promises made promises kept. EV's are going to increase demand for coal. Trump said coal would come back.
The Volt was a good concept car. The battery replaces the transmission, and the electric motor requires a lot less maintenance than an internal combustion engine. The generator is designed to maximize battery life (as opposed to a Tesla, or a Bolt). It's more like a car version of a diesel electric locomotive- taking advantage of the good parts of electricity and gasoline. But basically a two-seater, unless you're a family of hobbits.