posted ago by Narg ago by Narg +208 / -0

TL;DR: Individual citizens have MUCH stronger incentive to pay attention to the control of government policy by corrupt and malicious groups than in years past.

Corporations and individuals can make millions or even billions of dollars by influencing government policy. A single bill signed into law, a new executive order, a rule change at an agency, or a policy decision never even publicized can result in huge profits or additional power for various groups and individuals. For instance, Forbes ran a story over a year ago on forty (40) new billionaires "who got rich fighting COVID." -- Government policies and direct government cash were the main drivers of that new wealth.

In the past, you, the individual taxpaying citizen, would in most cases have only a few dollars taken from your pocket by that change in government policy, making the cost/benefit ratio of fighting the change very unfavorable.

The CEO of Global War Industries, Inc. gets to join the billionaire class, while you get a slightly higher tax bite. HE's highly incentivized to get the new bill introduced, passed, and signed into law. HE can easily spend thousands of dollars, hundreds of thousands, or more on this project, and he might throw in some coercion and blackmail if necessary. YOU, assuming you even hear about the bill at all, don't likely HAVE hundreds of thousands of dollars to oppose the bill and in any case the costs to you will be disguised and just become a part of your ever-changing tax obligation.

Relatively small input for a potentially HUGE return for those seeking to buy government power, versus huge INPUT (relative to the average citizen's wealth) for potentially blocking a small cost.

But as you know, things have changed.

The corrupt and malicious can still gain vast amounts of money and power by influencing government policy, but the average citizen now sees more clearly the costs -- including the most important, non-monetary costs -- of ignoring efforts to corrupt government policy.

Just another reason that NCSWIC.

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Oblakhan 29 points ago +29 / -0

The US needs a flat tax, no deductions, and no IRS. In fact I think we could probably put an end to all income taxes. This country imports enough shit to levy taxes on imports and run a fairly robust but downsized federal government with just the return on imports.

That alone will stimulate more American jobs, and the increase in the price of foreign produced goods will be an incentive to buy American made products.

In addition sales taxes and local property taxes should be capped to make sure they don't just find another avenue to rip off the American people.

All governments waste through fraud and theft a lot more money than they need to operate. The criminals need to be sought out and imprisoned until it stops, and that includes those in government and those bribing government.

SoMuchWinning45 15 points ago +15 / -0

Taxation is theft.

wyomiles 8 points ago +8 / -0

yes it is!

ImBillCurtis 5 points ago +5 / -0

Income tax is the biggest and most fraudulent concept in economic history. It literally does not matter to pay down “debts” as is evident by the fact that TPTB simply print more money to reduce the value of the debt. Even in a stable, fixed monetary value currency system, the sole purpose of income tax is to fuel extraction of resources from the private class to the government class. There is no need for it.

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PepeSee 1 point ago +3 / -2

My suggestion is a flat sales tax. Essentials could be excepted. Basically it would be entirely voluntary - like you want a Porsche, ok you get to pay a lot of tax due to its high price, but no-one needs one (if you are a Porsche fan, yes I understand, I need another one myself but please take my point).

Another idea I've seen for ENTIRELY voluntary tax would be lottery - since plenty of people buy into the dream of those....

Qlueless 3 points ago +3 / -0

"My suggestion is a flat sales tax."

That would be the Fairtax.

LongTimeListener 18 points ago +18 / -0

People need to come to understand that our 1000 page bills are not written or even read by our representatives in Congress. They are written by special interests that shop them around to Congressmen who the special interest thinks they can persuade or outright buy to sponsor the bill. Congress does not make law they rubber stamp it for cash. Special interests write law.

Jscholl17 2 points ago +2 / -0

Who elected the special interests anyway?

TheTroof 1 point ago +1 / -0

Our tax dollars?

catsfive 13 points ago +13 / -0

If your election lasts longer than four hours...

Narg [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0


PepeSee 1 point ago +2 / -1

You took too much

imissvoat 5 points ago +6 / -1

This is why people should oppose the income tax as a whole.

5Solas 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hubby was just telling me Fox news polls indicate the Dems will destroy us at midterms, that more Americans identify with dem policy than not. I think they are lying with their polls again as they have always done. He also said the article talked about how the republican candidates can't seem to raise much money but the Dems have tons of cash (of course we know where it's likely coming from, definitely not grass root fund raising).

Thothbag 1 point ago +1 / -0

Could the American people take a class action law suit to the current administration or government or legal body representing the gov etc etc.?

Narg [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting idea. IDK if it would be a workable strategy in this case but Q has repeatedly highlighted the use of Class Action Lawsuits, for example:


Godisglory1 1 point ago +1 / -0

This world is run by people who are so corrupt. I really want this to end but I understand all takes time. God is protecting us.

Oblakhan 2 points ago +2 / -0

I am getting totally sick of hearing this crap. You may be alright, and I may be alright, but there are people all over this fucking world going hungry. There are people all over this world losing their homes and everything they own. There are people all over this world going into debt up the ass just to try to eat and feed their families. There are people committing suicide because they can't take any more, and the desperation has over-whelmed them. And there are people dying every damned day from a poison vaccination that the cabal put on them.

God isn't protecting shit, and neither are the Whitehats. We are in a war, a battle for lives, and it will end when the patriots rise up and make it end. If someone is coming to rescue us, they are taking their damned good time about it.

Godisglory1 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have been battling my own illness trying to live and try to give hope to people through God. Hope you find God’s Grace soon without him we are nothing. I will keep praying for the world, you and animals which I cry every single day. I suffer a lot just want you to know. I am not trying to tell you that I am not upset of what is happening, you do not know me but God knows me. God bless you.