I agree with you! As an ER doctor, after this bs pandemic I thought more people would have realized that the medical establishment is not your friend. However, the ER’s I work in are busier now than before the pandemic! People are still looking for a magical cure from big hospital and there is not one! People are still bragging to me that their children and/or grandchildren are vaccinated. I’m not sure most of humanity is ever going to get it!
Thanks for your good work. I think we as a people are closer than most of us think to realizing that big pharma treatments, the medical bureaucracy and most the food we eat is causing the problem. It's always darkest before dawn. Hang in there.
Is the normal blood pressure really supposed to be 120/80 or is that a lie? And for those with slightly high bp, what is the best medicine for it? My doc put me on Lisinopril, but I've been trying to take my bp every day to see what my numbers are, and if they are under 120/80 or even slightly above, I skip my med that day. Also what about cholesterol levels?
I don't trust my doctor is looking into the helping us or just following what they tell her (the people who say they will take their license away if they don't follow rules). I thought she was a good doctor, but when all the covid crap started, I asked her about vitamins to take and also about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. She said that none of that stuff will help that the best treatment was the vaxx. She lost me after that, haven't been back to doc since. Stopped taking my gabapentin for my back (pinched nerves) and stopped taking my cholesterol medicine (Pravastatin).
There was a fantastic thread on this forum several months ago about a lot of this sort of stuff. From it, I learned about a book called "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Dr. Malcom Kendrick. I've been reading it a little by little for the past several months. Not dry reading at all, since his British sense of humor is rather charming. There is no such thing as "high LDL," but having low LDL is very dangerous and could be a sign of disease. He shows how as Japan has increased its cholesterol intake over the past several decades, the rate of heart disease has decreased. He dispels that benefits of HDL vs LDL is nonsense, shows how LDL actually protects one's body, and shows how statins (like you were taking) do not decrease one's chance of death at all, but actually raises it by 1%. It's all a sham.
I've learned that Hawthorn berry helps high blood pressure. Actually, if I was told that blood pressure is as much of a sham as cholesterol, I wouldn't doubt it. My doctor has been trying to get me on statins and I won't do it. Actually, I was taking red yeast rice as a natural statin. Not because I believe that LDL is bad, but I thought that if I could reduce it a bit, they'd leave me alone about it. Well, over the past couple of months, I've developed some nerve pain in my arms and I wonder if taking red yeast rice supplements have affected this.
Another book I'd recommend is " Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients" by Ray
Moynihan. I bought this book and read the first two chapters before starting the book by Kendrick. Interestingly, the book doesn't seem to reference Rockefeller, the one really responsible for mucking up Western Medicine over a century ago.
Look for naturopath or integrative medicine doctor instead of a conventional doctor who only wants to prescribe pharmaceuticals. My husband's high blood pressure lowered from changing diet, no longer eating crap, eating keto and intermittent fasting. He lost weight and got off blood pressure medications.
Here's a good book on cholesterol: "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will."
Statins are horrible. We got my husband off statins when I found out about all the detrimental side effects.
Sorry it took so long to reply, I was working a string of night shifts. In my opinion, the lower your blood pressure the better. However if it is consistently in the 140’s over 80’s without medicines I don’t think you necessarily need to be on any anti hypertensive medication. It’s definitely better to not be on any prescribed medications if possible because they have many side effects and many of the studies have been massaged or frauded. To lower the bp and cholesterol I would do the Mediterranean diet/Pioppi diet. Also read or watch videos on Pioppi Italy and how they live longer in general. Statin research has been massaged. If you are low risk for heart disease statins will most likely harm you rather than help you. Now with regards to the Covid vaccine, I did not get it. I work with 30 other ER physicians and 25 got the vaccine and 5 did not. Not one of those 25 got the booster and some of them got Covid after getting the vaccine. As long as you are under 50 with no comorbidities you should survive without taking anything. You could take ivermectin, hcq, and steroids as soon as you get sick and that would help decrease the symptoms and duration/severity of symptoms. I hope this helps and if you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask!
Well I don’t think if you have BP at 139/89 means you are overweight, my husband has high BP and he is very fit for a 59 yr old, not at all overweight/fat, he has muscle (big upper body), hardly any fat on him. He works out & does Jiu jitsu. He’s had high BP pretty much all his adult life. I have lower BP than he does and I am overweight, though in the last year I have lost some weight, but it’s hard when I have health issues that hamper exercising. I do some but it’s not easy. It’s rather frustrating to be honest, not to be able to do things. Years ago my BP use to be so low the nurses always had a hard time getting my BP. The BP machines hardly worked on me, so they had to do it manually and sometimes even then they had a hard time. I had good BP all through my pregnancies also, drove my husband crazy, lol. I didn’t work out or anything, just always going/doing things.
139/89 is not necessarily an issue, especially since, in your husband's case, it's something that has stayed consistent.
Some people naturally have a higher blood pressure, just as you had a naturally lower blood pressure for much of your life.
And I didn't make it clear in my original reply, but I believe those blood pressure medications are often misprescribed and are to be avoided if at all possible, especially if you're in the 120/80 to 139/89 range.
As far as losing weight, exercise is not required to lose it. Intermittent fasting is definitely an option I can vouch for. I've already lost 6 inches around my waist that have crept up on me since getting married over a decade ago.
Here's a video on intermittent fasting by Dr. Sten Ekberg. He does a very good job of explaining the science behind it on this and many other videos-
I am living proof of this! I developed a rare kidney disease shortly after the birth of my child. My doctor blew off my symptoms as me being a whiner for 2 years, until I was literally on the verge of kidney failure with a 93% chance of losing my kidneys. Had I taken my own health concerns more seriously, I would never have gotten so sick. Anyway, the MDs wanted to treat me with chemo, which only had a 20% success rate, so I was still probably going to wind up on dialysis plus I would have all the chemo side effects, such as congestive heart failure. I opted to do holistic healing. I followed the recommendations of "The Perfect Health Diet" by Paul Jaminet + did acupuncture, this zapper box (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Z3GrEMieo0SJ_BnyjoYYw) and some other alternative therapies. It was slow but steady, taking about 4 years to fully heal. But no bad side effects and I am great now!
edit to add: One of the things that caused me to "wake up" was the realization that the American Medical Association is not interested in preventing or healing chronic illness --- they are deliberately giving bad preventative advice to create customers for life that need multiple doctor visits monthly and multiple drugs daily. This is a really interesting article on how Crisco got trans-fats considered healthy: https://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mg=reno64-wsj
I know a man who is a Guinness World Record holder athlete who was diagnosed with leukemia. His uncle had leukemia and chemo killed him. So he decided to avoid chemo and chose a naturopathic doctor who had a way of oxygenating his blood, which killed the cancer naturally. I don't know what this treatment was called. Maybe someone else can chime in with that.
If anybody wants to take a journey into natural path healing, try Dr. mortar‘s system. You might have to find a practitioner in your area, but this is very interesting stuff. I’ve been doing it for years and it’s helped me finally get to a place where I am physically healthy and my mental health is doing much better as well.
If I am not involved in an accident with trauma that I cannot treat, then I will go to an ER. Other than that, the next doctor that examines me will be tying a tag around my toe. Doctor free since 1999.
Pretty much avoid the medical system, if you possibly can. Learn about health (opposite of most government advice), eat well, and work hard every day. You really do not need someone else to judge your health, and you certainly do not need drugs.
You don't have to take anything you don't want. Find either a Naturopath, Integrative Medicine or Functional Doctor. I don't take any prescription medications and have only use Naturopathic Doctor or Integrative Medicine doctor. If you have high blood sugar then you can try Keto and/or Intermittent Fasting. Many people have lowered their blood sugar doing that.
A good book on cholesterol is "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will"
Dealing with that with hubby. Doctor is reasonable though. Husband sugar was in the 200s and doctor wanted to place him on meds.
I talked to the doctor about changing his diet as we were already losing pounds and eating healthier ...he agreed and we are doing Atkins and his sugar has went down and he is now considered pre diabetic in just a months time. Few more months and we hope for him to be normal.
Good luck and talk to your doctor, they aren't all bad.
That is very interesting! Thanks Fren for the info ... of course they would keep this from the people, how else would pharma be able to make money. Pure bullshit.
Honest question, what do you tell a nurse practitioner that tells you you must exercise, even after you've told her you have zero energy to do anything?
I stopped paying for health insurance January of this year.
I decided against propping up they system I never utilize anyway. All these corrupt, evil systems will collapse in on themselves if we simply choose not to participate. This is how I do my part with our "healthcare."
Look for patterns also. If they all parrot the same thing like drones, then look further into the opposite.
Exercise, both your body and your mind. Clean up your nutrition, less junk food and more fresh food, especially if it supports local businesses in your area.
Tip: If you lift weights, your testosterone, muscle breakdown hormones, and some other things are going to be out of whack I'd you have certain blood tests done. They'll want to prescribe stuff for it, but unless your doctor specializes in sports medicine, he or she genuinely won't have any idea what's going on.
I agree with you! As an ER doctor, after this bs pandemic I thought more people would have realized that the medical establishment is not your friend. However, the ER’s I work in are busier now than before the pandemic! People are still looking for a magical cure from big hospital and there is not one! People are still bragging to me that their children and/or grandchildren are vaccinated. I’m not sure most of humanity is ever going to get it!
Thank God for Healers like you
Thanks for your good work. I think we as a people are closer than most of us think to realizing that big pharma treatments, the medical bureaucracy and most the food we eat is causing the problem. It's always darkest before dawn. Hang in there.
Is the normal blood pressure really supposed to be 120/80 or is that a lie? And for those with slightly high bp, what is the best medicine for it? My doc put me on Lisinopril, but I've been trying to take my bp every day to see what my numbers are, and if they are under 120/80 or even slightly above, I skip my med that day. Also what about cholesterol levels?
I don't trust my doctor is looking into the helping us or just following what they tell her (the people who say they will take their license away if they don't follow rules). I thought she was a good doctor, but when all the covid crap started, I asked her about vitamins to take and also about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. She said that none of that stuff will help that the best treatment was the vaxx. She lost me after that, haven't been back to doc since. Stopped taking my gabapentin for my back (pinched nerves) and stopped taking my cholesterol medicine (Pravastatin).
There was a fantastic thread on this forum several months ago about a lot of this sort of stuff. From it, I learned about a book called "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Dr. Malcom Kendrick. I've been reading it a little by little for the past several months. Not dry reading at all, since his British sense of humor is rather charming. There is no such thing as "high LDL," but having low LDL is very dangerous and could be a sign of disease. He shows how as Japan has increased its cholesterol intake over the past several decades, the rate of heart disease has decreased. He dispels that benefits of HDL vs LDL is nonsense, shows how LDL actually protects one's body, and shows how statins (like you were taking) do not decrease one's chance of death at all, but actually raises it by 1%. It's all a sham.
I've learned that Hawthorn berry helps high blood pressure. Actually, if I was told that blood pressure is as much of a sham as cholesterol, I wouldn't doubt it. My doctor has been trying to get me on statins and I won't do it. Actually, I was taking red yeast rice as a natural statin. Not because I believe that LDL is bad, but I thought that if I could reduce it a bit, they'd leave me alone about it. Well, over the past couple of months, I've developed some nerve pain in my arms and I wonder if taking red yeast rice supplements have affected this.
Another book I'd recommend is " Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients" by Ray Moynihan. I bought this book and read the first two chapters before starting the book by Kendrick. Interestingly, the book doesn't seem to reference Rockefeller, the one really responsible for mucking up Western Medicine over a century ago.
Look for naturopath or integrative medicine doctor instead of a conventional doctor who only wants to prescribe pharmaceuticals. My husband's high blood pressure lowered from changing diet, no longer eating crap, eating keto and intermittent fasting. He lost weight and got off blood pressure medications.
Here's a good book on cholesterol: "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will."
Statins are horrible. We got my husband off statins when I found out about all the detrimental side effects.
Find a functional medicine doctor
You need to exercise and fix your diet too
Sorry it took so long to reply, I was working a string of night shifts. In my opinion, the lower your blood pressure the better. However if it is consistently in the 140’s over 80’s without medicines I don’t think you necessarily need to be on any anti hypertensive medication. It’s definitely better to not be on any prescribed medications if possible because they have many side effects and many of the studies have been massaged or frauded. To lower the bp and cholesterol I would do the Mediterranean diet/Pioppi diet. Also read or watch videos on Pioppi Italy and how they live longer in general. Statin research has been massaged. If you are low risk for heart disease statins will most likely harm you rather than help you. Now with regards to the Covid vaccine, I did not get it. I work with 30 other ER physicians and 25 got the vaccine and 5 did not. Not one of those 25 got the booster and some of them got Covid after getting the vaccine. As long as you are under 50 with no comorbidities you should survive without taking anything. You could take ivermectin, hcq, and steroids as soon as you get sick and that would help decrease the symptoms and duration/severity of symptoms. I hope this helps and if you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask!
They taught us 120/80 was baseline normal in Physical Education class when I was in high school in the 1990s.
I'm pretty sure they try to tell people that's Pre-Hypertension now.
If your blood pressure is 139/89, they call that High Normal.
In either case, they recommend blood pressure medication.
If yours is 139/89, you're probably overweight and need to lose some weight and exercise and it will correct itself pretty quickly, imho.
Well I don’t think if you have BP at 139/89 means you are overweight, my husband has high BP and he is very fit for a 59 yr old, not at all overweight/fat, he has muscle (big upper body), hardly any fat on him. He works out & does Jiu jitsu. He’s had high BP pretty much all his adult life. I have lower BP than he does and I am overweight, though in the last year I have lost some weight, but it’s hard when I have health issues that hamper exercising. I do some but it’s not easy. It’s rather frustrating to be honest, not to be able to do things. Years ago my BP use to be so low the nurses always had a hard time getting my BP. The BP machines hardly worked on me, so they had to do it manually and sometimes even then they had a hard time. I had good BP all through my pregnancies also, drove my husband crazy, lol. I didn’t work out or anything, just always going/doing things.
You're right. It doesn't necessarily mean that.
I used the word "probably" for that very reason.
139/89 is not necessarily an issue, especially since, in your husband's case, it's something that has stayed consistent.
Some people naturally have a higher blood pressure, just as you had a naturally lower blood pressure for much of your life.
And I didn't make it clear in my original reply, but I believe those blood pressure medications are often misprescribed and are to be avoided if at all possible, especially if you're in the 120/80 to 139/89 range.
As far as losing weight, exercise is not required to lose it. Intermittent fasting is definitely an option I can vouch for. I've already lost 6 inches around my waist that have crept up on me since getting married over a decade ago.
Here's a video on intermittent fasting by Dr. Sten Ekberg. He does a very good job of explaining the science behind it on this and many other videos-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZhkFOCeZMQ
I am living proof of this! I developed a rare kidney disease shortly after the birth of my child. My doctor blew off my symptoms as me being a whiner for 2 years, until I was literally on the verge of kidney failure with a 93% chance of losing my kidneys. Had I taken my own health concerns more seriously, I would never have gotten so sick. Anyway, the MDs wanted to treat me with chemo, which only had a 20% success rate, so I was still probably going to wind up on dialysis plus I would have all the chemo side effects, such as congestive heart failure. I opted to do holistic healing. I followed the recommendations of "The Perfect Health Diet" by Paul Jaminet + did acupuncture, this zapper box (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7Z3GrEMieo0SJ_BnyjoYYw) and some other alternative therapies. It was slow but steady, taking about 4 years to fully heal. But no bad side effects and I am great now!
edit to add: One of the things that caused me to "wake up" was the realization that the American Medical Association is not interested in preventing or healing chronic illness --- they are deliberately giving bad preventative advice to create customers for life that need multiple doctor visits monthly and multiple drugs daily. This is a really interesting article on how Crisco got trans-fats considered healthy: https://www.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mg=reno64-wsj
Frequency Zapping is awesome! I have one of my own that you can program. I use it all the time. Glad to hear you got healed.
Great story
I know a man who is a Guinness World Record holder athlete who was diagnosed with leukemia. His uncle had leukemia and chemo killed him. So he decided to avoid chemo and chose a naturopathic doctor who had a way of oxygenating his blood, which killed the cancer naturally. I don't know what this treatment was called. Maybe someone else can chime in with that.
I don't know about oxygenation, but I do know there is a cancer clinic in Tijuana that uses a Native American remedy and has good success: https://greatawakening.win/p/12kFiYXMlU/you-dont-have-to-die-1957--the-s/c/
In the US naturopaths are having great success with vitamin C infusions.
Wow what a story! Thank you for sharing, I'm totally into this sort of thing and will check out the links Thank you!
If anybody wants to take a journey into natural path healing, try Dr. mortar‘s system. You might have to find a practitioner in your area, but this is very interesting stuff. I’ve been doing it for years and it’s helped me finally get to a place where I am physically healthy and my mental health is doing much better as well.
https://www.morter.com/discover-best/
I agree! YOU are your health care provider, not some one else. NO one else cares. So study up and figure it out. Your life depends on it
Better yet if you want to heal use food and stay happy. Get.the vibes tuned up a bit.
If I am not involved in an accident with trauma that I cannot treat, then I will go to an ER. Other than that, the next doctor that examines me will be tying a tag around my toe. Doctor free since 1999.
Pretty much avoid the medical system, if you possibly can. Learn about health (opposite of most government advice), eat well, and work hard every day. You really do not need someone else to judge your health, and you certainly do not need drugs.
I just don't go to Dr's at all anymore. Limping around on a torn meniscus for 5 months now. Can't trust the medical industry so why even go.....
"High cholesterol" is a sham used to just sell harmful pills. Check out a reply I made to someone else in this discussion topic for more info.
You don't have to take anything you don't want. Find either a Naturopath, Integrative Medicine or Functional Doctor. I don't take any prescription medications and have only use Naturopathic Doctor or Integrative Medicine doctor. If you have high blood sugar then you can try Keto and/or Intermittent Fasting. Many people have lowered their blood sugar doing that.
A good book on cholesterol is "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will"
Dealing with that with hubby. Doctor is reasonable though. Husband sugar was in the 200s and doctor wanted to place him on meds.
I talked to the doctor about changing his diet as we were already losing pounds and eating healthier ...he agreed and we are doing Atkins and his sugar has went down and he is now considered pre diabetic in just a months time. Few more months and we hope for him to be normal.
Good luck and talk to your doctor, they aren't all bad.
That is very interesting! Thanks Fren for the info ... of course they would keep this from the people, how else would pharma be able to make money. Pure bullshit.
You have the option to refuse the medications.
When they ask why, you can say you're getting a higher commission fee not to take it than they're getting to prescribe it.
Honest question, what do you tell a nurse practitioner that tells you you must exercise, even after you've told her you have zero energy to do anything?
I'm in the same boat... I'm like an old battery that barely turns the engine over most days...
I stopped paying for health insurance January of this year.
I decided against propping up they system I never utilize anyway. All these corrupt, evil systems will collapse in on themselves if we simply choose not to participate. This is how I do my part with our "healthcare."
Look for patterns also. If they all parrot the same thing like drones, then look further into the opposite.
Exercise, both your body and your mind. Clean up your nutrition, less junk food and more fresh food, especially if it supports local businesses in your area.
Tip: If you lift weights, your testosterone, muscle breakdown hormones, and some other things are going to be out of whack I'd you have certain blood tests done. They'll want to prescribe stuff for it, but unless your doctor specializes in sports medicine, he or she genuinely won't have any idea what's going on.