273 Trump post: Congress' passage of the “Presidential Election Reform Act” proves Pence could have done "the right thing, and send it back to the States to investigate widespread Election Fraud." (media.greatawakening.win) posted 186 days ago by QANON__17 186 days ago by QANON__17 +273 / -0 20 comments download share 20 comments share download save hide report block hide replies
Hmmm... so, while this is certainly not a popular opinion - this would strongly indicate that everything was part of the plan. Including Pence's role in everything. Including Barr. Wray. Sessions. Etc.
The current state of everything at this moment in time would not be possible if it weren't for these individuals.
Trump becoming more open and promoting Q memes/messages/songs/videos is just turning up the volume on "COMFY" in a big way.
That means that everything happened by the book. There was no shot at 2020. Pence was never going to send anything back. Trump used him as a whipping boy just like Barr.
People would still be asleep and the Left would be outraged beyond reproach if 2020 was overturned.
I always need to remind myself of this because it's nearly impossible to consider the full scope of everything at play.
"People would still be asleep and the Left would be outraged beyond reproach if 2020 was overturned."
This was the whole point. While many of us wanted justice right away, had we gotten it, it would have split the country quite badly. People had to SEE just how bad Biden is. Well, the controlled dude that is playing the role. They had to see children being pushed to have sex changes. They had to see men in women's sports. They had to see drag queens in schools, along with the grooming and pornographic books aimed at children. They had to see gas prices go up. They had to see open borders. They had to see interest rates going up. They had to see ALL of it. They had to live through all of it. They have to know what happens when an election is stolen. Soon, the fear will come. They people are outraged, but those that aren't will need to be scared straight. That is coming.
and they had to see their 401K's or IRA's shrink.
Pence wasn't going to do anything because under the Constitution, he had no authority to do what well-meaning but misguided MAGAs wanted, and what the Left wanted (excuse to start violent civil war). Remember Trump's words? "It takes more courage to NOT do anything." Pence played his role on Jan 6th, just like he played his role conducting "most complex military operations in history" with Miller back in Oct-Dec 2020. Hopefully some day all will be revealed and Pence vindicated.
^ Good points here
I tend to agree with this.
I truly believe you're right, they're all playing parts. Imagine what it may have cost these people. Will the truth ever come to light or do they all go down as Benedict Arnold
Come on, man! Electors were challenged and the challenge succeeded 140 years ago, and IMHO Trump had a much stronger case than Hayes . . .
"More than 140 years ago, President Rutherford B. Hayes won the election of 1876 by committing to end Reconstruction. A highly controversial political compromise preceded by disputed electoral votes and involving questionable deals with Southern Democrats . . ."
But challenged by WHOM? It was actually the Democrats who disputed the official certificates from LA, SC, FL and OR because all were from states still controlled by Republican legislatures, canvassing boards and governors (except Oregon, BUT the state law for appointing replacement Electors in cases of vacancies was explicitly clear, and the shit Dem governor tried to violate it). Their challenge FAILED becuase the Commission (thank God Bradley was the replacement for Davis) ultimately ruled that they could not "go behind the votes" and must accept the official certificates from the disputed states, thus approving all Hayes Electors. While the Commission was only quasi legal because the Constitution does not authorize Congressmen to serve as judges in an inherently judicial function, it was at least better than the previous Rule used in 1864, 1868 and 1872 when only Congress was involved, but it was a far more legitimate temporary solution than the shitshow of the 1887 ECA.
Btw, the so-called "Compromise of 1877" is a complete myth, created by Democrats to use as propaganda against Republicans and blame them for the shortcomings of Reconstruction. The real villains were the shithead rebel KKK Democrats using black codes and Jim Crow to restore legalized slavery and steal elections to regain their lost plantation political power. The Republicans didn't "turn their backs on blacks"... that's just the distraction to take the heat off the Democrats for the evil they committed.
My suspicion: Pence DID do the right thing. He did exactly what Trump asked him to do. That's my home for him at least.
Sorry guys, but what Trump said is just flat out wrong... likely intentionally.
Those who actually read Pence's letter explaining his eventual actions on Jan 6th, would have noticed that Pence never actually cited the CONSTITUTION, but rather he cited the ECA's (now 3 US Code) rendering of the President of the Senate to a ministerial function. Why? Because the Constitution itself is silent on the matter.
Even though Republicans argued in 1876 that President of the Senate had such judicial power, and even though Jefferson counted himself in, the 12th Amendment does NOT explicitly authorize the presiding officer with any such power. The text is not explicitly clear as to what "count" means, "tally" or "validate" (although the context and syntax imply "tally"), and does not specify as to who is responsible for settling Electoral appointment and voting disputes. That's why this massive flaw is been debated for 220 years. Even the Founding generation knew there was a problem as early as 1800 as they geared up for the bitter election of 1800... Federalists expected Jeffersonians to cheat, which they did, and anticipated the need for a dispute resolution process that the Constitution lacked.
BUT as to the constitutionality of this propossed bill, like the ECA 1887, it is indeed unconstitutional, at least the sections in which Congress unlawfully has given itself sole judicial power to resolve disputes. The Constitution doesn't give Congress that authority. Necessary and Proper clause is irrelevant because there was no foregoing power to settle Electoral disputes. The matter is a judicial one, best left to the JUDICIARY. Until Congress sets up special election tribunals (temporary and/or permanent ones), which it could under its Article 1 Section 8 authority, then the original jurisdiction lies with SCOTUS. Unless the Constitution is AMENDED, Congress has no authority to assert itself to be the judge of presidential Electoral disputes.
I'm curious... why is the C in "unConstitutional" capitalized.
Random thought as I type this: "C before D?"
E and F in "Election Fraud" and M in "Malfeasance" also should not be capitalized.
Kayfabe working as intended.
Trump/Pence feud was engineered to trick the Dems into limiting the powers of the vice president. Now when the next presidential election comes (either 2024 or before) Heels Up Harris will be powerless to challenge EC delegations.
Which would have changed nothing because the states that rigged it would have made certain they got the same results.
May be unconstitutional? Lol