God I will never not cringe in the most violent ways to the point I give myself a tension headache when flat Earthers come out. It is the most idiotic topic that is easily proven with one's own hand if they were actually curious enough to challenge their own beliefs.
Yes, because they are light years away from each other, in all 3 dimensions so the constellations barely change, but they have changed.
Lmao you watched multiple two hour videos of a dude on a laptop microphone with PowerPoint pulled up who is just very confident that the sun never sets, who are you to suddenly be all high and mighty?
REALLY wanna comment here, but last time I did (in October) I received a 22 day ban... tho don't proclaim to be an FE'r? Just believe both sides make valid arguments- even without quoting the Bible.
What's wrong with a good argument, especially when God wins and (supposedly) authored the very Bible which Q has quoted on occasion?
Agreed, I do understand why they keep the topic to a minimum though because half the point is to draw in normies who will see this discussion and reject the whole as "conspiracy theories and flat earthers" where the truth isn't quite so simple.
Keep the topic to a minimum... perhaps... but NOT it's verified users only seeking truth. A 22 day ban was not only excessive but undeserved- and by one of my fave mods no less.
Rainbows (both inside and outside versions) are the result of sunlight being refracted through raindrops. It is the same phenomenon that allows a wedge of glass to split light into its spectral components.
You really don't know your Bible. The rainbow was supposed to be a covenant between God and man that He would not destroy the Earth by flood ever again.
There is nothing in the Bible about a "firmament" in the solid dome sense used only in Europe long after the days of Christ.
“The Church says that the Earth is flat, but I know that it is round. For I have seen the shadow of the earth on the moon and I have more faith in the Shadow than in the Church."
What the church says is not always the same thing as what the Bible says, unfortunately.
Magellan would have been referring to the Roman Catholic Church, which had drastically veered away from the Bible at this point. On the scientific front, they stubbornly held to Aristotle as gospel truth even when evidence suggested otherwise.
The adherence to Aristotle had to do with the geocentric view of the universe, not whether the Earth was flat. Gallileo argued for the heliocentric view, but there was no way to distinguish the two views, as they gave the same results. It took later work (measurement of stellar parallax) to determine the the Earth moved.
That may be the best we can do, but it would have required sub-arc-second accuracy to measure the parallax to the nearest stars, and the science of astronomy was nowhere near that capability in Galileo's day. Thus, the superiority of the heliocentric view was unprovable, since it was indistinguishable from the geocentric view.
The Bible also did not say the earth is round. The Bible did insinuate the earth is more like a dome. Whatever... I'm here to read about vacc and such, we got more serious issues at hand.
People spend far too much time concerned about what others do and do not believe in and still try to keep people from using their OWN critical and logical thinking to come to their OWN conclusions on topics.
You can critically think all you want. If your critical thinking is wrong, it's still wrong. Facts don't care about your feelings or your beliefs on any subject.
Well, I am not a FEer by any means (it really doesnt matter to me WHAT shape the earth is, to be honest), but the problem lies in that this issue, along with many others, truly has NOT been declared unequivocally one way or the other. People should be able to debate/share their opinions on the issue though when they differ from another person's viewpoint, even within this community as well.
The Bible doesn’t say the earth is a dome either. The firmament being a solid canopy is a modern invention.
Where the Bible is silent, reason and scientific evidence must be used, and all of it points to a spherical earth. The best explanation for the firmament, then, is that it is the solid crust of the earth. This crust used to be connected all the way around the earth and had an ocean of water trapped underneath it. Genesis records that God called the firmament “heaven” because Earth was supposed to be heaven, the place where God dwelled with men. And one day it will be that way again.
During the Flood, this crust ruptured, allowing the “fountains of the deep” to break out and cover the earth in water.
There’s a difference between Big Science and actual scientific evidence. Scientific evidence and reason point both to the earth being a sphere and to the Covid “vaccines” being death jabs.
My problem with flat earthers is not that they inherently distrust institutions, it’s that their distrust is the only argument they have. If you want to propose an alternative model for how the world works, it has to be based in observational data and backed by reason. Every single flat earth argument and model falls apart under scrutiny. The evidence for the death jabs remains solid and plausible under scrutiny.
NASA isn’t right just because they’re right; they’re right because no one has proposed a better model that better explains the data.
Just have one Question...WHY does NASA Lie??.... You talk about 'flat-earthers' distrust in "institutions"...
Do you believe and 'trust' these professionals who are supposedly in a gravity-free environment dropping things?... I Don't...and my opinion is based on what I see and hear and then using logic, critical thinking and common sense... This is just one of many Cons...Whether one believes the Earth is a globe or Flat...
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2PVo7dZ36pLN/
NASA lie because if they have told us the truth.. how the heck would they be able to control us? Just by saying earth is flat means there is a higher intelligence design, a God, a creation, that we didn't come from monkeys, we didn't just randomly appear from evolution or big bang theory.
Telling us the truth means govt would have no power because as humanity we would ONLY answer to God, and not govt.
If people know there are more land beyond the wall, people would migrate there, venture out. That's why no matter how much all countries disagree and at war w/ one another, there is ONE thing they agree to..KEEP OUT OF ANTARTICA. You can go jail for life just by trespassing there. That is how precious Antartica is to DEM(ons)
The only things NASA has been lying about have to do with "climate change," which has very little to do with actual science, and everything to do with politics. But in that case, it is possible to find the actual data and prove their lies.
Their statements on matters relating to space, aeronautics, and planetary exploration are sound. Objections and questions are invariably based on ignorance and misunderstanding. Re the video: (1) The "falling" ring. What happened was obscured by the astronaut's hand. Nothing falling was "seen." As anyone who has dealt with a small implement knows, it doesn't take much of a fumble to flick it out of position. Other items were truly floating around, however. (2) The "falling" clip. Another fumble; you could see his right hand tripping it. (3) The "dropped" globe. It was squeezed away between the astronaut's arm and his thigh. Constant velocity, not accelerating. (4) International Space Station a hoax? Funny that such a hoax can be seen traveling overhead in the night sky. Or that there is no problem finding a profusion of images and videos of it. Plenty of people have traveled to it and come back.
This video is a prime example of ignorance and snark running riot. The compiler only knows what he wants to see and edits out the reality (floating objects). This is a world view that WANTS to be lied to, for the satisfaction of some perverse itch, so it goes looking for lies and makes lies out of truth. My opinion is based on having been in this industry for 40 years, and being able to sort fact from fiction.
So they'll lie about the jab but not space/the shape of earth? How does that stupidity compute in your head? Killing kids in the name of science is fine? But the shape of earth and space is the line you think they won't cross. You aren't as smart as you as trying to be. The argument that "nasa must be right because Noone has proposed better" is a flat out lie and fallacy.
We know they lied about the jab. We caught them red handed changing the definition of vaccines, and their claims that the jab protects against Covid have been demonstrated to be false. Every attempt to prove that the earth is flat, on the other hand, has fallen flat on its face.
Also, we know that there was a motive to lie about covid and the jabs; Big Pharma made billions. What benefit is gained from lying about the shape of the earth?
And no, my final argument is not invalid. If you want to propose an alternate explanation for the nature of the universe, the onus is on you to show that your proposal coincides with reality. The theory that best explains the available evidence wins until new evidence is discovered. Screaming that NASA was founded by Freemasons isn’t a good counter argument.
No, I am not. I am a Young Earth Creationist. Evolution is a theory without a mechanism, and the evidence against it grows stronger every day. If you want to learn more, the first half of this free online book outlines the problems with evolution and shows how the evidence points toward creation:
I've listened to both sides all along, but have never been on board with Darwinism. Its arguments are falling apart from the inside, even though we don't often hear about it. If you want to hear what seems to be the cutting edge of biological science, listen to Michael Levin, for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
Science did not give us the COVID vaccine. That's why all of the rational people distrusted it. If science gave us the COVID vaccine, it's much more likely it would be popular.
Aha. Anti-scientist bigotry. First, there is the collectivist assumption that ALL scientists are identically alike in their moral and intellectual qualities. Then there is the logical conclusion that collective guilt is both necessary and defensible. It couldn't be more tidy if all the scientists were Jews, could it?
Not the same bunch that gave us the COVID vaccine. Big difference between geography and astronomy vs. germ warfare research.
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
Genesis 1 uses “firmament” and “firmament of the heavens”; two different phrases with two different meanings.
The Hebrew word rendered “firmament” is “raqia” a root word which means “to hammer or beat out with a hammer on an anvil”. What do you hammer out on an anvil? Metal, something both solid and dense. Firmament is used on its own to describe the action of days 2 and 3 of creation, where the firmament divides the waters. “Firmament of the heavens” used during the rest of the week to describe alternatively where the stars are created and the domain where birds fly. The word firmament by itself is not used to describe the atmosphere or outer space.
Combining this information with scientific data, the logical conclusion is the firmament is the solid crust of the earth, which used to have water both above and below. The firmament of the heavens then describes the atmosphere or outer space depending on context.
When the earth is stated to have foundations that don’t move, it’s referring to the fact that the crust had pillars that pushed through the subterranean water into the mantle, anchoring the crust to the mantle so it wouldn’t float around like a giant unstable water bed. The earth being “immovable” doesn’t refer to its lack of motion relative to other objects in outer space, it refers to Earth’s relative stability; the fact that it’s not going to randomly fall apart or blow up.
And you somehow have all seeing eyes and know what the globe or space looks like so you have the right to say it is factual earth is a certain way or form?
I know better to say "think mirror" when an individual try to stirr and divide the community by purposely picking on a subject and alienating those within the group who disagree w/ the collective, and you're one of those people.
I'll just consider it a Tuesday funny bait post and leave.
No, I have made multiple other observations about the world around me which prove Earth is not flat.
And I've considered the flat Earth arguments with an open mind, finding them to be of no substance. Every single person who pushes flat Earth is either deliberately lying (shill) or they are ignorant of basic, observable geoscience.
What other multiple observations? Because you can't see the curve from 150,000ft according to your God Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
Even the camera in the Red Bull Drop from space showed a flat plane from that height.
Every pilot, flat plane, no curve.
I may not know what the true shape is but you certainly don't either.
Example observation: when a ship comes over the horizon, only the top of the mast is visible at first. The ship appears to rise over the horizon, which means it is traveling over a curved surface.
And no, we do know that Earth is roughly spheroid. It has been known as fact for centuries, which is why shills love to propagate retarded flat Earth theory. Anyone who promotes it is instantly discredited.
Your eyeballs are curved lenses and the vanishing point of your perspective is the center of your vision at a distance. Get a high zoom camera and the whole ship is visible. Doh
You're ignorant.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_un-XLnFvoY
Curvature of the earth is 8inches per mile squared. There are lots of examples of seeing city skylines far beyond the distance that they should be visible at that curvature.
Educate yourself before you come here to shill and divide.
No bro, the government would lie about an experimental jab that's killing children in the thousands but they wouldn't lie about space or the shape of earth. That's messed up.
Show 1 picture of the entire earth from space. Not a composite. You can't. It doesn't exist. A trip to the moon and back and not 1 picture of the Earth from space?
What they present to you is stitched together photos over laid on a sphere.
Mostly you're looking at CGI to be honest as it's much easier to fool you.
The photo that the moon landing people pounced on because "oh they had to shut off the cabin lights to take this shot that proves they never even left Earth"? yeah that was taken in one shot with a film camera, idk what you are talking about but it sounds like "NASA doesn't even know how to get back to the moon" level of misunderstanding
I was talking about the "earthrise on the moon" photo, I believe it uses that photo of the earth through the porthole you mention as the top image, regardless, that earth rise photo also fails because the earth should be significantly larger from the moon than that photo.
Ironically, NASA themselves says they destroyed the technology to get back to the moon and claim it would be easier for them to get to Mars than to return to the moon.
The photos are fake the photos are fake!!! So why dont you all contribute to a rocket build that actually proves your theories? I cant think of a single "conspiracy theory" where people arent actively trying to prove it. Hell, ill donate to build the rocket just to shut up the crazies. But it wont happen because every influential person in that group is a con man. What happens if they actually did successfully take the picture and proved themselves wrong? Would they come clean and admit they were wrong? I doubt it.
Well I was told i was a fool for believing covid was fake from day one. I stuck to my guns and will here too. I trust God and if I'm wrong... well. I won't be.
Theres a huge diffrence between those two topics. You could say that for literally any topic. "They called me a fool for believing oxygen is poisoning us but ill stick to my guns just like when i was right that one time in the past". Theres overwhelming evidence that covid was a sham, meanwhile theres overwhelming evidence that the earth is NOT flat. You just refuse to accept these things because you distrust authority. Thousands of peoples work involves observing space. If the earth was flat there would be A LOT of evidence to prove that. But there isnt. Youve got maps you made up and rocket launches that "mysteriously failed" as if the person diddnt sabotage themselves to keep the charade going. "Sorry guys the CIA shot my rocket down youll have to keep sending me money now".
They made his ... parachute fail... ok guys the CIA shot down the parachute so i cant recover any of the footage that i worked so hard to get. No use trying again.
Why dont yall launch the rocket, then watch it with a telescope to make sure you catch the CIA UFO that shoots the next parachute down. Soooooo many oppertunities to prove yourselves and yet all you guys seem to do is circle jerk over that "flat earth map" in a dark room and mutter "the firmament! The firmament!"
My bad man, I was trying to rip on the flat earthers but I see there are so many here who are serious that it actually looked like I was one of them. But the flat earth rocket man was definitely real even though it was probably a grift to get them to fund his rocket.
It could be a dome, a realm, or more land beyond the ICE WALL aka Antartica.
Just because it's flat, does not mean it has an edge. It's really hard to wrap our mind around it and we would need to unlearn everything we learnt since toddler.
It's difficult for sure.
Start by asking questions like why is nobody allowed in Antartica? But religious leaders and politicians were always visiting Antartica, an empty place. For what purpose?
Also, the whole world could be at war w/ one another, yet they all agree on ONE thing: Keep Out of Antartica.
Like, if you want to go super deep and say we are in a simulation, and vibrating strings in a 2D plane - um, ok. I suppose that is technically “flat.”
But the 3-dimensional reality we all experience is on a round globe. Gravity makes sense. Space travel makes sense. Seriously, flat earthers just need to play KSP and it’ll all click.
Quantum gravity does not exist, in spite of decades of research, there is no "graviton" and the "Higgs boson" only serves to provide mass.
Newtonian gravity is describing the effect of objects falling to the ground and makes no explanation for the cause.
Relativistic Gravity fails in predictions 95% of the time and is only being held together because of the introduction of concepts like "dark matter" and "dark energy" (matter and energy that does not otherwise interact with the EM spectrum but is placed exactly where it needs to be in the correct amounts).
I use William Russel, Tesla, Theoria Apophasis as my foundations to work from.
It was quite a whirlwind to get through the Particle Theory lie. Funny how it all makes perfect sense without made up theories as soon as you are aware of the Ether.
The greatest triumphs of man were those in which his mind had to free itself from the influence of delusive appearances. Such was the revelation of Buddha that self is an illusion caused by the persistence and continuity of mental images: the discovery of Copernicus that, contrary to all observation, this planet rotates around the sun; the recognition of Descartes that the human being is an automaton, governed by external influence, and the idea that the earth is spherical, which led Columbus to the finding of this continent.
Sounds like you have a similar inquiring mind as mine. Always keeping an open mind, but I find that the electric universe, and Wal Thornhill, have more satisfying answers than quantum physics. And if you want to hear what seems to be the cutting edge of biological science, listen to Michael Levin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
Accepting Relativity is saying the cause is that the mass is bending the space-time around that mass such that the smaller mass is attracted to the larger mass. The observations of this only work in 5% of the observed universe.
I prefer the electrostatic explanation; electrostatics provides the direction, where density and buoyancy cover the acceleration rate.
There's a great story from my favorite electrical engineering professor, Dr Donald Scott, where he is at the question period of a lecture on electric sun theory.
An older astronomer was getting frustrated with everything he was suggesting and he heckled him. The stupid, self-unaware fuck actually said "yes, we all know there is electricity in space, but it doesn't do anything"
This is why this all sounds like bullshit to you and half the theories don't make sense.
It's because they actually don't make sense they have decided that 3 out of 4 of the fundamental forces are not important to astronomy.
With all due respect, unless you've been in space, you don't have the answer. I think it's great to question them and make them prove that the Earth is a globe. Considering how much b******* they have lied about over the last thousand years, the last thing we should be doing is ridiculing anyone who is questioning their narrative even if we don't agree with the questions. I think the Clone and robot Biden is b******* but I love to hear you guys talking about it and trying to prove it. There are still answers that we need as to why no one is allowed in antarctica. Why it's the one thing every country seems to agree on, aside from the covid scam. I think there's a lot of valid questions coming from them.
Just my irrelevant two cents. And I am not a flat earther. Fyi.
I worked on ships. I've been around the world while carefully watching stars for navigation. I've been in the southern hemisphere and seen a whole new night sky.
Why do you think all the stars and planets are in the same position for millions of years and never moved? That's impossible in a spinning ball lost in space. Even Planes use flat earth map. Damn, even United Nation uses Flat Earth map. And NASA is in a shape of lying snake tongue.
You say you work in ships.. Water does not bend, so how does the ocean water work on a globe?
The entire galaxy rotates in unison around Sagittarius A*. But I find it hilarious -- utterly hilarious -- that throughout this thread you have tried to defend such a bullshit stance with shit like "you haven't been to space, so you can't prove it!" and then reference the position of stars being the same for millions of years, as if we have even been here for that long much less have any recorded star charts physically observed for MILLIONS OF YEARS.
And we still use sextants and charts. The charts are flat projections of the surface of a sphere and have been for a long time. Calculations are done in 3d.
I'm not a historian, but it's been that way for hundreds of years.
Wait, were you asking if we use an actual spherical globe? Ha! It'd have to be the size of texas!
There are practical reasons why it's done the opposite, flat charts are projected onto a globe. The practical rationale is that you can only see about 20km around at any given point, and in that scale, it's all going to be a flat topographical area.
I suspected it wasn't a globe, but rather charts. I was only partially serious, and that's not a direction I could form any strong arguments one way or another, simply because of a lack of experience.
If you're not moving more that 20km, the earth is big enough that you can consider it flat. Ships move thousands of miles, you can't treat it as flat anymore.
I was trying to convey how much trouble we go through because charts are flat and the earth isn't. It's a PITA sometimes.
Yeah. that's true. I noticed the same thing, I walked to the end of my block and there were totally different street lights. It proved my street was round.
The Ancient Greeks, the Romans, and scholars within the middle ages figured out that the Earth is round, and they never been to space. Even in Christopher Columbus days, it is known that the Earth is round.
No see if you study the flat earth model, the sun shines brighter on one side allowing it to hit the southern hemisphere on a flat disk while also keeping the north pole and the land almost underneath the sun in complete darkness.
You don't even have to climb the highest mountains to see the curve of the horizon. Nor can a telescope see across the great lakes. You don't have to go all the way to space. Conspiracies.win is the place for the glowposting anyway.
Actually....... you can't see the curve from an airplane. Pilots all agree, it's flat from where they are. Your mountain claim is false.
You can watch youtube videos of experiments shining lasers over 22 miles of water, beach to beach. No curve.
Red Bull Drop with Baumgartner.... look at the videos from inside his cockpit looking outside when he opens the door before the jump. No curve despite fisheye lens outside showing it.
Also many are unable to understand the degrees of a circle in relation to the sun's 24 clock. Every 3 hours the sun should move 45 degrees in the sky to complete one revolution per day. I challenge you to test this for yourself. The sun is travelling too slowly to make one revolution of your world in 24 hours.
This is still God's world. We just need to look to him for our answers instead of the false idols. If the cabal had a thousand year plan, does it not make sense all your history supports how they want you to think? Why do you believe what you believe? Welcome to the Matrix. It's deep my friend.
So then wouldn't they be more interested in making us believe it is a flat disc that flys upward at the same rate of speed with a tiny ball of magic light and heat that floats above us only a few miles up?
That would get way more people under the control of their cult then making up with a round ball theory that actually backs up what we see in real life with a sun and moon and planets that aren't magical divine beings.
See that's the problem you attack the flat earth movement using terms akin to "qanon" and "believes jfk is alive" when you say "shoots upwards". It's obvious you've never even entertained the idea, and only have listened to the mainstream fodder.
I have entertained it plenty, just because you have shit and pseudoscience for evidence doesn't mean anyone who notices you have bad evidence "isn't looking hard enough".
You doubt that God has the power to make a huge universe that has our chosen/created world in a balanced gravitational system around an absolutely massive sun? God is too dumb to do that and can only make a fishbowl with a tiny sun hanging over like a chandelier?
I think what he meant to point out was that if it is a globe, the deep state or whoever cares can convince people our creation was random and there is no God out there. If the earth is flat with a dome over it, it is 100% created, we are probably sitting on God's coffee table, and there is irrefutable proof God exists, and they can't rule the world with devilsh intent as easily.
Thinking like that is why I tried so hard to believe in the flat earth. But no one could explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole. The earth certainly appears to be a globe. I'll have to leave God's mysterious ways to God.
I love how anytime flat earthers who claim Q is one of them are confronted with actual Q posts they respond the same way.
It's literally always "disinformation is necessary" without elaborating at all on why that post only applies to flat earth and moon landings or why Q would go out of their way to "lie" about that.
Right. To even know of this board/forum is stupid. Q answered a yes or no question... The trivial rebuttal is a mockery of the entire place in my honest opinion.
I have yet to see a flat earth theory that is as simple or compelling as a basic introduction to orbital mechanics.
I do think that there are mysteries to this Earth and places kept hidden from us, the scale of which we can only speculate. But the theory that we exist on a flat plane is too large of a conspiracy, with too much evidence to the contrary, for me to accept.
I don't live on the equator. So the framing of your experiment would only appear to be valid to idiots.
But let's say I did. I now live in Pontianak, West Kalimantan, Indonesia. A location known for being positioned almost exactly on the equator. The date is June 21st, the summer solstice.
The sun rises at 5:41am and sets at 5:48pm, almost exactly 12 hours. From my perspective the sun would "travel" approximately 45 degrees every 3 hours, from sunup to sundown.
The sun's position that day at noon would be almost identical to it's position 24 hours later. From a positional standpoint, this is true of any time of any location, so I'm not sure how the sun doesn't "have time" to reach a similar position from any given perspective every 24hrs, or 360 degrees.
Now, I am on the equator the length of day (max daylight) on Dec 21st, the winter solstice, would still be 12 hours. Sunrise being 5:37am and sunset, 5:44pm. The observable path of the sun, and the time it takes to "travel" across the sky is still 12hrs, 3hrs for every quarter of 180 degrees.
The farther north or south you are from the equator the more your perspective from the almost perfect 12hr cycle will deviate. Equator deriving it's name from "equal". These deviations are also responsible for seasons and their intensity depending on their distance from the equator, elevation and other geographical factors.
Being so far north, this is why the sun will rise in Juneau, Alaska at 3:51am and set at 10:08pm on June 21st, making for an almost 18hr period of daylight and conversely, a 6hr period of daylight on Dec 21st.
Thank you for explaining this. It won't make a stick of difference to those who are pushing the flat earth idea but it might be helpful or interesting to others.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these things aren't being taught in schools anymore. I recognize that a lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to actually go out and watch the sky, to see how it changes over the year.
The inability of flat earthers to explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole is what killed it for me. "The video is fake. They won't let us go there" arguments are pointless. Just check out sunrise and sunset times at any point far south, say in Tierra del Fuego or Tasmania.
"there's a fuckton of evidence for it. I don't have time to share any of it but watch these hour long videos of confident pseudoscience on YouTube."
A rocket doing a yoyo despin is not evidence, a blurry out of focus video of stars on a very specific webcam is not evidence, and if they already don't understand what "perspective" means then them rambling for an hour about how the sun never sets won't make them magically understand it now.
I can't believe people on this forum are actually questioning if the earth is flat. Like holy fuck lmao. I get that what we've been told has been lies, but this is one of those that doesn't need questioning. Like come on people. What would lying about this achieve? Q has stated that we aren't alone in this universe already, but then I'm seeing comments saying Q had to spread some mistruths. Though, I'm pretty sure the mistruths are for post about what will happen like a certain arrest incoming or a plan that they mention, but not about flat earth and aliens. How would that foil the DS? That's literally just information that's not disclosed to the public.
Most of them are newbies, from other conspiracy forums that go banned, who only read Q posts that seem interesting to them. Any inconvenient post is "disinfo is necessary".
Yeah. The people using "disinfo is necessary" seem to not understand what it entails to. I'm just astonished the amount of people who believe the earth is flat 😮💨 Post like these will put off new people who come on here and see this lmao
I've noticed that there are quite a few who've only joined in the past 3 months or so. It makes me think that it's less "newbies" and more "a concerted effort to divide/distract the forum". The way they try to throw the Bible in there is suspect, as well. Like they think because there are a lot of Christians on this board that they will immediately buy into the flat earth concept because "Bible tells them so".
Some of this stuff is downright painful to read. It wouldn't surprise me if they start babbling on about the Giant Dung Beetle that pushes the Sun from horizon to horizon every day.
Oh true, but both flat earthers I knew irl were also extremely pushy with Christianity stuff to the point of calling someone a blasphemer for not "saying a Bible verse that disproves flat earth theory" when they half assed their own Bible verses' connection to flat earth.
It's likely that they are genuine then too, given that's just how they actually think God wants them to spread his good word. But it's just as likely that it's shills trying to turn people away from Christianity by making it appear to be some group of accusatory judgemental flat earthers and not peaceloving forgivers.
Can only speculate. The most common presumption is Antarctica, a place that is heavily restricted to visit. Only guided tours, research missions, and military projects.
If they were right, think of the UN logo, Antarctica wraps around the map and the north pole in the center.
People aren't allowed to freely travel below the 60th parallel, and there's a similar restriction north of the 5th parallel. Without claiming certainty of what's beyond, if there are edges, those are the areas where I would want to search.
what else do you believe that they taught you? evolution? holocaust? history of any kind? science, global warming? If it were true, they wouldn't teach it to you. Q wasn't asked what shape is our reality, just if it is flat. define flat. how does Q define flat. I feel kind of stupid believing anything as factual that we've been taught.
Modern science was initially created to explain everything without making appeals to God, it was created as antithetical to religion, which is why so many early scientists were killed as heretics.
Mostly joking with the link. My point was that you must not have seen much satellite imagery.
Airplanes cannot fly high enough to capture some images taken by satellite. More to the point -- there are millions of airplane pilots around the world who can testify that Earth is indeed round.
Q also said "no outside comms"
and yet we sit here day after day micro analysing every tweet from people who are indeed.. NOT Q.
IM not exactly a flat earther im just saying that there a lot of things Q said that this board ignores everyday.. but i don't really ever see THAT mentioned.
Not one of us can definitively say that "WE know" what shape it is.. WE know what we have been told by freemasons and proven liars, so unless you have access to a rocket that can get one of us to space then its a waste of time trying to have this one out with a bunch of people who distrust official sources about every topic if all you have to back up you perspective is provided 2nd hand from "official" science.
You may as well be posting links to CNN or FAUX news.
So, considering you wont convince the Flat earthers and you probably know that... You're just going to mock and belittle them?
Is that the plan?
Interesting
Imo threads like these are intentionally trying to create division...You knew damn well this would antagonise the flat earth people... so WHY do it??
We're all on the same side.
The shape the earth is totally irrelevant as it pertains to Q so WTF is the point.
Agreed that the shape of the earth is ultimately irrelevant, we do have bigger issues to worry about.
I do love this topic for the philosophical implications, and there are scientifically valid arguments to be made for many positions (globe, flat earth, being on the interior of the globe, torroidal earth, etc). There are also many core principles in physics that are firmly and objectively established that, regardless of the shape, require that the planet be an enclosed system (biblically referred to as firmament").
For a long time I was among those that would mock "flat earthers" as being antagonistic to science, it wasn't before being confronted with evidence that showed in clear ways how the same effects that people use to "prove" a globe earth work equally well if it were a flat plane.
It's a question that ultimately cannot be concretely answered from an earthly perspective, and so, have to agree that the topic does promote divisiveness.
Now, I saw something earlier but refrained from dragging this nonsense up here,
...so, I posted it on Truth instead kek (only because I have a flatearther on my follow list and this subject gets on my tits). Enjoy a bit of Carl Sagan... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ScEZjDLgKco
Eratosthenes did the trigonometry before any concept of light refraction was known, and the numbers he found are still treated as correct.
The same effect can be created with a closer light source on a flat surface, if instead of assuming the light is coming like an = it were approaching as >. Just saying.
Regarding the concluding remarks, In engineering school we made assumptions all the time to simplify problems. Some teachers even made us write down our assumptions we used on every homework problem.They could just be making assumptions to simplify the derivation of the equations.
Some common assumptions are assuming a standard temperature (room temperature) and pressure, or assuming something is at sea level
Yes. I am agreeing with their basic engineering approach.
They also made the assumption of a rigid aircraft and constant mass.
Think about it, as an aircraft travels, it uses fuel, therefore the mass of the aircraft will change.And depending on the type of aircraft, its not completely rigid.
If you take into account fuel usage and aircraft flexibility, that's going to change the results of the equations.
It's all good. We are here to learn from each other.
I only see one document from nasa btw. Not one from the faa. So i dont see anything about dipping the nose down.
I believe when flying a plane though, you actually have to keep the nose tilted slightly up to maintain altitude. This is due to the "angle of attack". The angle of attack is different for every plane. It also depends on how fast you are going as well and how dense the air is etc.
And due to making frequent adjustments for turbulence, you wouldn't even notice having to make tiny adjustments to follow the curvature of the earth even if it is necessary. And that would probably be done by autopilot.
The air also gets thinner as you increase in altitude, so if you were maintaining the same speed and just flying straight, the aircraft would eventually start to fall again because higher up the air would not be dense enough to generate the same amount of lift. Planes can only fly to a certain elevation before they reach their limit and can't go any higher
This is a Q board. Q said the earth isn't flat. We are trying to wake up the masses to the evil that controls this world. The shape of the earth is irrelevant when there's children being trafficked and harvested for organs and sent to pedofiles to be raped tortured and murdered. Can we please focus on the things that matter?? Can we come up with an organized plan to help children who have been trafficked? Don't waste your energy on things that don't matter. The only thing that matters is the safety of the innocent children of the world who have been left to be used as sex toys for satanic pedofiles! Seriously guys. If you watched that video posted yesterday I don't understand how you could want to do anything else other than find a way to stop children being murdered for organs and used by pedofiles. Im pretty sure thats what God wants from us, not wondering about if the earth is flat! FFS!
I didn't think twice about the orientation of our planet until our government started making a big deal about some fringe group of people who said it was flat. Whenever they try to silence someone, I start paying attention. Now I wouldn't be surprised if it was flatter than a pancake. They lie about everything else.
It really is the "flat earth" position that's been silenced, it started around 2015 based on google statistics.
Now, if one searches google/youtube for flat earth topics, there's a select group of anti-flat earth people that get highlighted and groups like flat earth society (a likely shill group).
There's one way to prove it. Go to Antarctica, put a marker on the ice when you get there and then follow the coastline until you get back to the marker. Then tell me how far you travelled.
I don’t staunchly believe that the earth is flat nor spherical or anything else. I firmly believe there’s so much we don’t know and that’s hidden from us, so I’m open to whatever it may actually be.
On one hand, the people pointing out what the Bible says vs what NASA insists upon are making a good point. On the other hand, I don’t really trust the Bible as we know it either. With as evil as we know people are, why would we not question whether the Bible has been grossly disfigured from what it’s meant to be?
The real conspiracy is the the flat earth movement has been pushed in order to discredit actual conspiracies by calling anyone who speaks of them as "flat earthers".
People are still debating this while there are paradigm-shifting discoveries being made in the field of biology. Curious minds really need to listen to Michael Levin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. I mean, you seriously need to at least hear this guy out. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
lol
Exactly
Just because it's round, does not mean it is not in a dome.
Hilarious. That is so true. My cat does that all the time.
I don't care if it's flat round or square, it needs a cleansing from God.
Amen
Can't argue with that fren.
That should be the main focus, the CLEANSING part. We have ourselves to work on as well.
Whatever shape or form earth is, since it's created by God, it's perfect and beautiful.
Is that you, Mr Bickle?
No it's Mrs.😉
yes
They 100% have changed position, wdym?
And do you know why it's called the north star??
God I will never not cringe in the most violent ways to the point I give myself a tension headache when flat Earthers come out. It is the most idiotic topic that is easily proven with one's own hand if they were actually curious enough to challenge their own beliefs.
Why can't Australians see the North Star?
Apparently they just need to look up lol
Yes, because they are light years away from each other, in all 3 dimensions so the constellations barely change, but they have changed.
Lmao you watched multiple two hour videos of a dude on a laptop microphone with PowerPoint pulled up who is just very confident that the sun never sets, who are you to suddenly be all high and mighty?
What do you mean? They have changed position. In fact, they have a changed positions in an extremely predictable way . . .
Why is Polaris not visible in Australia?
Just because it's beyond your understanding doesn't make the world flat.
Who are you speaking for? Sounds like a personal problem that you've never resolved.
Curious as I don't know scripture regarding our living planet. But does anyone else see the manipulation in text by Ra to confuse?
REALLY wanna comment here, but last time I did (in October) I received a 22 day ban... tho don't proclaim to be an FE'r? Just believe both sides make valid arguments- even without quoting the Bible.
What's wrong with a good argument, especially when God wins and (supposedly) authored the very Bible which Q has quoted on occasion?
So I consider this topic Q related kek
Agreed, I do understand why they keep the topic to a minimum though because half the point is to draw in normies who will see this discussion and reject the whole as "conspiracy theories and flat earthers" where the truth isn't quite so simple.
Keep the topic to a minimum... perhaps... but NOT it's verified users only seeking truth. A 22 day ban was not only excessive but undeserved- and by one of my fave mods no less.
Q answered a very narrow question. I would have asked him a different way.
Q - is the earth as God describes it or as science describes it.
Better question would've been is the earth's plane level
Rainbows (both inside and outside versions) are the result of sunlight being refracted through raindrops. It is the same phenomenon that allows a wedge of glass to split light into its spectral components.
Gee wonder who designed that phenomenon.
Very true...
You really don't know your Bible. The rainbow was supposed to be a covenant between God and man that He would not destroy the Earth by flood ever again.
There is nothing in the Bible about a "firmament" in the solid dome sense used only in Europe long after the days of Christ.
Psalms 19:1?
Doesn't describe it. "the heavens declare the glory of God..." "the firmament sheweth his handiwork..."
I suppose you're right, that's not much of a description, just a statement of its presence.
Kent Hovind creation seminar explains all of this in a biblical yet scientific manner. Think its 8 hours long but well worth your time
Thank you for this. An hour deep on it. Will be working through it the next few days.
Glad to share, the first little bit is pretty dry but it gets very fascinating, promise!
For it is written.
The Bible doesn’t say the earth is flat, despite multiple attempts to twist its words to fit flat earth theory.
“The Church says that the Earth is flat, but I know that it is round. For I have seen the shadow of the earth on the moon and I have more faith in the Shadow than in the Church."
~ Ferdinand Magellan
What the church says is not always the same thing as what the Bible says, unfortunately.
Magellan would have been referring to the Roman Catholic Church, which had drastically veered away from the Bible at this point. On the scientific front, they stubbornly held to Aristotle as gospel truth even when evidence suggested otherwise.
The adherence to Aristotle had to do with the geocentric view of the universe, not whether the Earth was flat. Gallileo argued for the heliocentric view, but there was no way to distinguish the two views, as they gave the same results. It took later work (measurement of stellar parallax) to determine the the Earth moved.
It's more of a philosophical position than a scientific one.
As for the parallax, the extent that's been measured was in the range of 0.00000x degrees of a shift.
That may be the best we can do, but it would have required sub-arc-second accuracy to measure the parallax to the nearest stars, and the science of astronomy was nowhere near that capability in Galileo's day. Thus, the superiority of the heliocentric view was unprovable, since it was indistinguishable from the geocentric view.
He thinks he saw the shadow of the earth. He saw a shadow but has no proof it came from the earth.
pro-vaxxers: correlation!
but the big take away from that Magellan quote, is that "flat Earth" was actually an official Church position, not that long ago.
and yes, there are numerous verses in the bible that are used to support flat earth model.
The Bible also did not say the earth is round. The Bible did insinuate the earth is more like a dome. Whatever... I'm here to read about vacc and such, we got more serious issues at hand.
Maybe its round on one side, flat on the other.
People spend far too much time concerned about what others do and do not believe in and still try to keep people from using their OWN critical and logical thinking to come to their OWN conclusions on topics.
You can critically think all you want. If your critical thinking is wrong, it's still wrong. Facts don't care about your feelings or your beliefs on any subject.
Well, I am not a FEer by any means (it really doesnt matter to me WHAT shape the earth is, to be honest), but the problem lies in that this issue, along with many others, truly has NOT been declared unequivocally one way or the other. People should be able to debate/share their opinions on the issue though when they differ from another person's viewpoint, even within this community as well.
This forum isn't about "vacc and such". It's about Q and what they have posted and theories about what they have posted.
The Bible doesn’t say the earth is a dome either. The firmament being a solid canopy is a modern invention.
Where the Bible is silent, reason and scientific evidence must be used, and all of it points to a spherical earth. The best explanation for the firmament, then, is that it is the solid crust of the earth. This crust used to be connected all the way around the earth and had an ocean of water trapped underneath it. Genesis records that God called the firmament “heaven” because Earth was supposed to be heaven, the place where God dwelled with men. And one day it will be that way again.
During the Flood, this crust ruptured, allowing the “fountains of the deep” to break out and cover the earth in water.
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There’s a difference between Big Science and actual scientific evidence. Scientific evidence and reason point both to the earth being a sphere and to the Covid “vaccines” being death jabs.
My problem with flat earthers is not that they inherently distrust institutions, it’s that their distrust is the only argument they have. If you want to propose an alternative model for how the world works, it has to be based in observational data and backed by reason. Every single flat earth argument and model falls apart under scrutiny. The evidence for the death jabs remains solid and plausible under scrutiny.
NASA isn’t right just because they’re right; they’re right because no one has proposed a better model that better explains the data.
Just have one Question...WHY does NASA Lie??.... You talk about 'flat-earthers' distrust in "institutions"... Do you believe and 'trust' these professionals who are supposedly in a gravity-free environment dropping things?... I Don't...and my opinion is based on what I see and hear and then using logic, critical thinking and common sense... This is just one of many Cons...Whether one believes the Earth is a globe or Flat... https://www.bitchute.com/video/2PVo7dZ36pLN/
They lie to conceal the truth, of course!
Exactly what that truth is, well that's up for debate.
NASA lie because if they have told us the truth.. how the heck would they be able to control us? Just by saying earth is flat means there is a higher intelligence design, a God, a creation, that we didn't come from monkeys, we didn't just randomly appear from evolution or big bang theory.
Telling us the truth means govt would have no power because as humanity we would ONLY answer to God, and not govt.
If people know there are more land beyond the wall, people would migrate there, venture out. That's why no matter how much all countries disagree and at war w/ one another, there is ONE thing they agree to..KEEP OUT OF ANTARTICA. You can go jail for life just by trespassing there. That is how precious Antartica is to DEM(ons)
The only things NASA has been lying about have to do with "climate change," which has very little to do with actual science, and everything to do with politics. But in that case, it is possible to find the actual data and prove their lies.
Their statements on matters relating to space, aeronautics, and planetary exploration are sound. Objections and questions are invariably based on ignorance and misunderstanding. Re the video: (1) The "falling" ring. What happened was obscured by the astronaut's hand. Nothing falling was "seen." As anyone who has dealt with a small implement knows, it doesn't take much of a fumble to flick it out of position. Other items were truly floating around, however. (2) The "falling" clip. Another fumble; you could see his right hand tripping it. (3) The "dropped" globe. It was squeezed away between the astronaut's arm and his thigh. Constant velocity, not accelerating. (4) International Space Station a hoax? Funny that such a hoax can be seen traveling overhead in the night sky. Or that there is no problem finding a profusion of images and videos of it. Plenty of people have traveled to it and come back.
This video is a prime example of ignorance and snark running riot. The compiler only knows what he wants to see and edits out the reality (floating objects). This is a world view that WANTS to be lied to, for the satisfaction of some perverse itch, so it goes looking for lies and makes lies out of truth. My opinion is based on having been in this industry for 40 years, and being able to sort fact from fiction.
So they'll lie about the jab but not space/the shape of earth? How does that stupidity compute in your head? Killing kids in the name of science is fine? But the shape of earth and space is the line you think they won't cross. You aren't as smart as you as trying to be. The argument that "nasa must be right because Noone has proposed better" is a flat out lie and fallacy.
Sail straight west, without veering and eventually you will end up where you started. This is not possible on a flat plane.
We know they lied about the jab. We caught them red handed changing the definition of vaccines, and their claims that the jab protects against Covid have been demonstrated to be false. Every attempt to prove that the earth is flat, on the other hand, has fallen flat on its face.
Also, we know that there was a motive to lie about covid and the jabs; Big Pharma made billions. What benefit is gained from lying about the shape of the earth?
And no, my final argument is not invalid. If you want to propose an alternate explanation for the nature of the universe, the onus is on you to show that your proposal coincides with reality. The theory that best explains the available evidence wins until new evidence is discovered. Screaming that NASA was founded by Freemasons isn’t a good counter argument.
No, I am not. I am a Young Earth Creationist. Evolution is a theory without a mechanism, and the evidence against it grows stronger every day. If you want to learn more, the first half of this free online book outlines the problems with evolution and shows how the evidence points toward creation:
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/PartI.html
I've listened to both sides all along, but have never been on board with Darwinism. Its arguments are falling apart from the inside, even though we don't often hear about it. If you want to hear what seems to be the cutting edge of biological science, listen to Michael Levin, for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
If you went up to space, and saw it for yourself, you'd still call it a hoax with that attitude.
Attitude or Altitude lol
"neither has anyone else"
aka you can never be wrong despite literally all of those manned space missions
Science did not give us the COVID vaccine. That's why all of the rational people distrusted it. If science gave us the COVID vaccine, it's much more likely it would be popular.
Aha. Anti-scientist bigotry. First, there is the collectivist assumption that ALL scientists are identically alike in their moral and intellectual qualities. Then there is the logical conclusion that collective guilt is both necessary and defensible. It couldn't be more tidy if all the scientists were Jews, could it?
Not the same bunch that gave us the COVID vaccine. Big difference between geography and astronomy vs. germ warfare research.
Isaiah 40:22
True it describes something that isn't a globe, Doesn't move, and has a firmament.
Heavens biblically is anywhere above earth.
Heaven and earth referred to together any times.
Firmament does not equal heaven.
Genesis 1 uses “firmament” and “firmament of the heavens”; two different phrases with two different meanings.
The Hebrew word rendered “firmament” is “raqia” a root word which means “to hammer or beat out with a hammer on an anvil”. What do you hammer out on an anvil? Metal, something both solid and dense. Firmament is used on its own to describe the action of days 2 and 3 of creation, where the firmament divides the waters. “Firmament of the heavens” used during the rest of the week to describe alternatively where the stars are created and the domain where birds fly. The word firmament by itself is not used to describe the atmosphere or outer space.
Combining this information with scientific data, the logical conclusion is the firmament is the solid crust of the earth, which used to have water both above and below. The firmament of the heavens then describes the atmosphere or outer space depending on context.
When the earth is stated to have foundations that don’t move, it’s referring to the fact that the crust had pillars that pushed through the subterranean water into the mantle, anchoring the crust to the mantle so it wouldn’t float around like a giant unstable water bed. The earth being “immovable” doesn’t refer to its lack of motion relative to other objects in outer space, it refers to Earth’s relative stability; the fact that it’s not going to randomly fall apart or blow up.
They get mad when u take their ball away
Not triggered, just working against the mass deception that is modern flat Earth theory.
In addition to being factually incorrect, it was deliberately seeded by bad actors. They want truth-seeking communities like GAW to look foolish.
The moon landings were fake, in case anyone was wondering
Here we go again.....
Nope, the landing happened.
The true purpose of the mission was concealed, and some of the footage we see is fake.
Spot on. I have always said this
I've believed similar, likely because the technology to get to the moon would be orders of magnitude beyond what would have been known at the time.
"False, moon landings are real. Programs exist that are outside of public domain."
And you somehow have all seeing eyes and know what the globe or space looks like so you have the right to say it is factual earth is a certain way or form?
I know better to say "think mirror" when an individual try to stirr and divide the community by purposely picking on a subject and alienating those within the group who disagree w/ the collective, and you're one of those people.
I'll just consider it a Tuesday funny bait post and leave.
No, I have made multiple other observations about the world around me which prove Earth is not flat.
And I've considered the flat Earth arguments with an open mind, finding them to be of no substance. Every single person who pushes flat Earth is either deliberately lying (shill) or they are ignorant of basic, observable geoscience.
What other multiple observations? Because you can't see the curve from 150,000ft according to your God Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Even the camera in the Red Bull Drop from space showed a flat plane from that height. Every pilot, flat plane, no curve. I may not know what the true shape is but you certainly don't either.
Example observation: when a ship comes over the horizon, only the top of the mast is visible at first. The ship appears to rise over the horizon, which means it is traveling over a curved surface.
And no, we do know that Earth is roughly spheroid. It has been known as fact for centuries, which is why shills love to propagate retarded flat Earth theory. Anyone who promotes it is instantly discredited.
Your eyeballs are curved lenses and the vanishing point of your perspective is the center of your vision at a distance. Get a high zoom camera and the whole ship is visible. Doh
Demonstrably untrue. Cameras capture the same thing -- first a mast, then the ship.
You guys can reach, I'll give you that.
You're ignorant. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_un-XLnFvoY Curvature of the earth is 8inches per mile squared. There are lots of examples of seeing city skylines far beyond the distance that they should be visible at that curvature. Educate yourself before you come here to shill and divide.
This has been debunked longer then the gender pay gap
Dude, I wouldn’t even try. Flat earthers have a book of rebuttals for everything you say. Owen Benjamin really fucked with their heads…
Does your observation include the fact that WATER DOESN'T BEND? lol
Good you have deceived yourself. Many do.
No bro, the government would lie about an experimental jab that's killing children in the thousands but they wouldn't lie about space or the shape of earth. That's messed up.
This. If the flat earth community were serious about their theory all they have to do is build a rocket. But they dont because they know its bs.
Show 1 picture of the entire earth from space. Not a composite. You can't. It doesn't exist. A trip to the moon and back and not 1 picture of the Earth from space?
What they present to you is stitched together photos over laid on a sphere.
Mostly you're looking at CGI to be honest as it's much easier to fool you.
Except for all of those photographs of the Earth that you conveniently claim were faked; meaning that you cannot be disproven.
My favorite is when they show this tiny earth farrrr away.. when earth should be huge from the moon.
It looks pretty big from the moon, certainly bigger than the pea sized moon appears from Earth.
That photo was a composite, if you have the image, paste in photoforensics and it is clearly a square image pasted on a second image.
The photo that the moon landing people pounced on because "oh they had to shut off the cabin lights to take this shot that proves they never even left Earth"? yeah that was taken in one shot with a film camera, idk what you are talking about but it sounds like "NASA doesn't even know how to get back to the moon" level of misunderstanding
I was talking about the "earthrise on the moon" photo, I believe it uses that photo of the earth through the porthole you mention as the top image, regardless, that earth rise photo also fails because the earth should be significantly larger from the moon than that photo.
Ironically, NASA themselves says they destroyed the technology to get back to the moon and claim it would be easier for them to get to Mars than to return to the moon.
The photos are fake the photos are fake!!! So why dont you all contribute to a rocket build that actually proves your theories? I cant think of a single "conspiracy theory" where people arent actively trying to prove it. Hell, ill donate to build the rocket just to shut up the crazies. But it wont happen because every influential person in that group is a con man. What happens if they actually did successfully take the picture and proved themselves wrong? Would they come clean and admit they were wrong? I doubt it.
It's been done and you can go find the videos if you care enough to know your claim is false.
If its been done then wheres the results? I was just told they tried and the CIA shot down the parachute.
Well I was told i was a fool for believing covid was fake from day one. I stuck to my guns and will here too. I trust God and if I'm wrong... well. I won't be.
Theres a huge diffrence between those two topics. You could say that for literally any topic. "They called me a fool for believing oxygen is poisoning us but ill stick to my guns just like when i was right that one time in the past". Theres overwhelming evidence that covid was a sham, meanwhile theres overwhelming evidence that the earth is NOT flat. You just refuse to accept these things because you distrust authority. Thousands of peoples work involves observing space. If the earth was flat there would be A LOT of evidence to prove that. But there isnt. Youve got maps you made up and rocket launches that "mysteriously failed" as if the person diddnt sabotage themselves to keep the charade going. "Sorry guys the CIA shot my rocket down youll have to keep sending me money now".
They did, freaking CIA clowns made his parachute fail.
They made his ... parachute fail... ok guys the CIA shot down the parachute so i cant recover any of the footage that i worked so hard to get. No use trying again.
Why dont yall launch the rocket, then watch it with a telescope to make sure you catch the CIA UFO that shoots the next parachute down. Soooooo many oppertunities to prove yourselves and yet all you guys seem to do is circle jerk over that "flat earth map" in a dark room and mutter "the firmament! The firmament!"
My bad man, I was trying to rip on the flat earthers but I see there are so many here who are serious that it actually looked like I was one of them. But the flat earth rocket man was definitely real even though it was probably a grift to get them to fund his rocket.
You were pretty convincing lol. Rocket man definitely a grift
Eh, if you think the earth is flat, I challenge you to find the edge and send pictures.
Yes. Both find the edge and explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole.
Watch the videos, they aren't showing a 24 hour day. It's close, 18-20 hours, but they cut a segment and loop.
Challenge you to circumnavigate the globe and prove its round. Prove they told you the truth.
You're the one making a claim that counters prevailing knowledge, the burden of proof is on you.
It could be a dome, a realm, or more land beyond the ICE WALL aka Antartica.
Just because it's flat, does not mean it has an edge. It's really hard to wrap our mind around it and we would need to unlearn everything we learnt since toddler.
It's difficult for sure.
Start by asking questions like why is nobody allowed in Antartica? But religious leaders and politicians were always visiting Antartica, an empty place. For what purpose?
Also, the whole world could be at war w/ one another, yet they all agree on ONE thing: Keep Out of Antartica.
WHY?
Only idiots use the edge of earth line.
If its a dome you could get a pic of the wall at the edge.
Like, if you want to go super deep and say we are in a simulation, and vibrating strings in a 2D plane - um, ok. I suppose that is technically “flat.”
But the 3-dimensional reality we all experience is on a round globe. Gravity makes sense. Space travel makes sense. Seriously, flat earthers just need to play KSP and it’ll all click.
Which theory of gravity?
Quantum gravity does not exist, in spite of decades of research, there is no "graviton" and the "Higgs boson" only serves to provide mass.
Newtonian gravity is describing the effect of objects falling to the ground and makes no explanation for the cause.
Relativistic Gravity fails in predictions 95% of the time and is only being held together because of the introduction of concepts like "dark matter" and "dark energy" (matter and energy that does not otherwise interact with the EM spectrum but is placed exactly where it needs to be in the correct amounts).
You are a bright light in a sea of lies.
I use William Russel, Tesla, Theoria Apophasis as my foundations to work from.
It was quite a whirlwind to get through the Particle Theory lie. Funny how it all makes perfect sense without made up theories as soon as you are aware of the Ether.
The greatest triumphs of man were those in which his mind had to free itself from the influence of delusive appearances. Such was the revelation of Buddha that self is an illusion caused by the persistence and continuity of mental images: the discovery of Copernicus that, contrary to all observation, this planet rotates around the sun; the recognition of Descartes that the human being is an automaton, governed by external influence, and the idea that the earth is spherical, which led Columbus to the finding of this continent.
-"super serious flat earther" Nikola Tesla
Sounds like you have a similar inquiring mind as mine. Always keeping an open mind, but I find that the electric universe, and Wal Thornhill, have more satisfying answers than quantum physics. And if you want to hear what seems to be the cutting edge of biological science, listen to Michael Levin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
Heavy shit goes down Light shit goes down. Mass is a thing.
Yes, that is the effect.
Accepting Relativity is saying the cause is that the mass is bending the space-time around that mass such that the smaller mass is attracted to the larger mass. The observations of this only work in 5% of the observed universe.
I prefer the electrostatic explanation; electrostatics provides the direction, where density and buoyancy cover the acceleration rate.
It's because they are arrogant
There's a great story from my favorite electrical engineering professor, Dr Donald Scott, where he is at the question period of a lecture on electric sun theory.
An older astronomer was getting frustrated with everything he was suggesting and he heckled him. The stupid, self-unaware fuck actually said "yes, we all know there is electricity in space, but it doesn't do anything"
This is why this all sounds like bullshit to you and half the theories don't make sense.
It's because they actually don't make sense they have decided that 3 out of 4 of the fundamental forces are not important to astronomy.
Makes sense now right, lol
Thanks, and since electromagnetic force is something like 10^30 stronger than gravity even claims, it seems to be a better route for a solution.
Mass without gravity. Interesting
I thought this was settled. It's round, but not a globe
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I second the KSP recommendation.
If you play Mario Bros enough times, you might be convinced that you can jump higher than your own height.
WHY IS THIS DOWNVOTED
With all due respect, unless you've been in space, you don't have the answer. I think it's great to question them and make them prove that the Earth is a globe. Considering how much b******* they have lied about over the last thousand years, the last thing we should be doing is ridiculing anyone who is questioning their narrative even if we don't agree with the questions. I think the Clone and robot Biden is b******* but I love to hear you guys talking about it and trying to prove it. There are still answers that we need as to why no one is allowed in antarctica. Why it's the one thing every country seems to agree on, aside from the covid scam. I think there's a lot of valid questions coming from them.
Just my irrelevant two cents. And I am not a flat earther. Fyi.
I worked on ships. I've been around the world while carefully watching stars for navigation. I've been in the southern hemisphere and seen a whole new night sky.
I'm certain it's round. I checked.
Why do you think all the stars and planets are in the same position for millions of years and never moved? That's impossible in a spinning ball lost in space. Even Planes use flat earth map. Damn, even United Nation uses Flat Earth map. And NASA is in a shape of lying snake tongue.
You say you work in ships.. Water does not bend, so how does the ocean water work on a globe?
Water doesn't bend? Flat earth map?
Is this a joke? They should have covered map projections in high school. You may have been out back huffing gasoline that day.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection
Ok, why are the stars different in the south?
Water does not bend.
What does that mean? It's a liquid. I guess "bend" doesn't apply to liquids. So what?
Water does not and cannot curve around the earth…
Correct. Water always finds it level.
Why not? If you put it in a bucket and spin it water will curve just fine.
I believe he means that water always finds its level.
That's why a water level, on a flat surface, will always show the bubble in the center.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zip9ft1PgV0
sounds like you were the one sniffing the bs they were brainwashing you with in school. water is level. it's called sea level not sea bend.
It's level with regard to the center of a sphere.
You're just here to inject idiotic ideas to discredit any truth that's discovered. "Oh look at those Q-tards and their flat earth!"
Give it up. Try again with a new account, FED.
The entire galaxy rotates in unison around Sagittarius A*. But I find it hilarious -- utterly hilarious -- that throughout this thread you have tried to defend such a bullshit stance with shit like "you haven't been to space, so you can't prove it!" and then reference the position of stars being the same for millions of years, as if we have even been here for that long much less have any recorded star charts physically observed for MILLIONS OF YEARS.
Holy fucking fuck, what?
LOL. Sagittarius A .... cool story bro.
What are you even fucking talking sbout
And do you use a globe for navigation?
Yes. It's the only way it works.
It worked just as well for centuries using a compass and a sextant, using flat charts, so, no, it's not "the only way."
And we still use sextants and charts. The charts are flat projections of the surface of a sphere and have been for a long time. Calculations are done in 3d.
I'm not a historian, but it's been that way for hundreds of years.
Wait, were you asking if we use an actual spherical globe? Ha! It'd have to be the size of texas!
There are practical reasons why it's done the opposite, flat charts are projected onto a globe. The practical rationale is that you can only see about 20km around at any given point, and in that scale, it's all going to be a flat topographical area.
I suspected it wasn't a globe, but rather charts. I was only partially serious, and that's not a direction I could form any strong arguments one way or another, simply because of a lack of experience.
If you're not moving more that 20km, the earth is big enough that you can consider it flat. Ships move thousands of miles, you can't treat it as flat anymore.
I was trying to convey how much trouble we go through because charts are flat and the earth isn't. It's a PITA sometimes.
It didn't work until the maritime chronometer was invented.
Yeah. that's true. I noticed the same thing, I walked to the end of my block and there were totally different street lights. It proved my street was round.
You don't have to go into space to witness the curvature of the Earth or see how stars change with the seasons.
Indeed.
The Ancient Greeks, the Romans, and scholars within the middle ages figured out that the Earth is round, and they never been to space. Even in Christopher Columbus days, it is known that the Earth is round.
They measured the Earth's circumference to within 2000 miles 2000 years ago with a fucking STICK.
Exactly, you just use a fisheye lens and you can see a plumb line as a curve.
I've heard they have answers for all that stuff too. It's definitely intriguing. I just don't have the time to read up on all of it.
Just replicate the experiment of the ancient Greek, Eratosthenes. If we were on a flat disk then the sun would strike all locations at the same time.
No see if you study the flat earth model, the sun shines brighter on one side allowing it to hit the southern hemisphere on a flat disk while also keeping the north pole and the land almost underneath the sun in complete darkness.
Yes and no.
If the suns rays are hitting straight = you would be correct. However, the math also works with a closer sun and the rays are hitting >.
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That's what I want answered most. So curious what's really there.
What are you fucking talking about?? There are JOB POSTINGS in Antarctica
That may be true, however no civilian can just go to Antarctica and "explore" by themselves....
You don't even have to climb the highest mountains to see the curve of the horizon. Nor can a telescope see across the great lakes. You don't have to go all the way to space. Conspiracies.win is the place for the glowposting anyway.
Actually....... you can't see the curve from an airplane. Pilots all agree, it's flat from where they are. Your mountain claim is false.
You can watch youtube videos of experiments shining lasers over 22 miles of water, beach to beach. No curve.
Red Bull Drop with Baumgartner.... look at the videos from inside his cockpit looking outside when he opens the door before the jump. No curve despite fisheye lens outside showing it.
Also many are unable to understand the degrees of a circle in relation to the sun's 24 clock. Every 3 hours the sun should move 45 degrees in the sky to complete one revolution per day. I challenge you to test this for yourself. The sun is travelling too slowly to make one revolution of your world in 24 hours.
This is still God's world. We just need to look to him for our answers instead of the false idols. If the cabal had a thousand year plan, does it not make sense all your history supports how they want you to think? Why do you believe what you believe? Welcome to the Matrix. It's deep my friend.
All pilots agree. How many do you know?
"All scientists agree that climate change is real" level of weak evidence
If you've been on a flight and looked out the window at altitude, there's no curvature.
That's not really a surprise given the size of the earth and the limited portion that can be seen, even at altitude.
make a thread about flat earth theory being unequivocally false
Shockingly turns into flat earth debate thread
Thus executing the exact opposite of it's intention
People then bitch and moan that this board is inundated with flat earth nonsense
Rinse and repeat
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Nah, think of all the lurkers who read this post and are reassured about this place being sane.
Ignoring lies is the wrong approach. They must be called out.
Best take after "the cats would knock everything off".
Oh, trust me, the "cats" is knocking the absolute shit out of this thread.
Maybe it's a honey pot to ban some and keep an eye on others...
What would be the motive for tricking everyone into thinking it's a globe?
If a shepherd convinces the flock there's nothing beyond their fence they probably chill out a bit.
So then wouldn't they be more interested in making us believe it is a flat disc that flys upward at the same rate of speed with a tiny ball of magic light and heat that floats above us only a few miles up?
That would get way more people under the control of their cult then making up with a round ball theory that actually backs up what we see in real life with a sun and moon and planets that aren't magical divine beings.
See that's the problem you attack the flat earth movement using terms akin to "qanon" and "believes jfk is alive" when you say "shoots upwards". It's obvious you've never even entertained the idea, and only have listened to the mainstream fodder.
I have entertained it plenty, just because you have shit and pseudoscience for evidence doesn't mean anyone who notices you have bad evidence "isn't looking hard enough".
What have I not seen that I need to see?
NASA spends 50 million per day, I'd call that a motive.
That funding is a ridiculously low amount compared to what other shit we spend on
I suppose it's become that way.
If it's a dome, it's created and we are intentional. We are loved. If it's a globe, floating through space, we are alone. We are not loved.
You doubt that God has the power to make a huge universe that has our chosen/created world in a balanced gravitational system around an absolutely massive sun? God is too dumb to do that and can only make a fishbowl with a tiny sun hanging over like a chandelier?
I think what he meant to point out was that if it is a globe, the deep state or whoever cares can convince people our creation was random and there is no God out there. If the earth is flat with a dome over it, it is 100% created, we are probably sitting on God's coffee table, and there is irrefutable proof God exists, and they can't rule the world with devilsh intent as easily.
True, but we've seen what they can do when the whole world believes in God too. That's one of the reasons God gave us Jesus.
False dichotomy.
Fuckwit logic
Thinking like that is why I tried so hard to believe in the flat earth. But no one could explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole. The earth certainly appears to be a globe. I'll have to leave God's mysterious ways to God.
satan doesnt value truth but he does the lie
u/#q2622
Could it be any more clear?
I love how anytime flat earthers who claim Q is one of them are confronted with actual Q posts they respond the same way.
It's literally always "disinformation is necessary" without elaborating at all on why that post only applies to flat earth and moon landings or why Q would go out of their way to "lie" about that.
Q said no to the question of is the earth flat. He did not say it is a sphere.
"Most Christians", no.
Flat Earth is a proven psyop for the uneducated, or schizophrenics.
Right. To even know of this board/forum is stupid. Q answered a yes or no question... The trivial rebuttal is a mockery of the entire place in my honest opinion.
Covid vaccines
Q encourages people to think and come to their own conclusions.
Using your eyes and senses the earth is a non moving flat plane.
A post on the internet isn't going to change my mind on what my sense tells me.
Do you even Q?
What is the definition of flat?
1.smooth and even; without marked lumps or indentations.
Even if we live on a "flat" plane, it isn't perfectly flat. It definitely has lumps and indentations.
Q's answer is technically correct even if we live on a somewhat flat plane.
“Disinformation is necessary”
Why would they go out of their way to bring up flat earth?
They literally implied our reality is like the matrix, so it's not "to make us not look crazy".
It's because they didn't want people to fall for that shit, same reason they brought up the moon landings when they had no reason to.
This! just look how much noise is in this comment section. clearly the Q team had work to do and understood this
I have yet to see a flat earth theory that is as simple or compelling as a basic introduction to orbital mechanics.
I do think that there are mysteries to this Earth and places kept hidden from us, the scale of which we can only speculate. But the theory that we exist on a flat plane is too large of a conspiracy, with too much evidence to the contrary, for me to accept.
Sun travels 360 degrees around your location at a constant speed every 24 hours.
Therefore, the sun travels 45 degrees every 3 hours.
Starting at noon tomorrow (do again in summer) Time 3 hours and using a protractor, find out how many degrees the sun travelled.
You can report back here if you think the sun has enough time to get back around to you in the morning.
The timing is off if you want the Coles Notes. Your sun is not travelling fast enough.
I don't live on the equator. So the framing of your experiment would only appear to be valid to idiots.
But let's say I did. I now live in Pontianak, West Kalimantan, Indonesia. A location known for being positioned almost exactly on the equator. The date is June 21st, the summer solstice.
The sun rises at 5:41am and sets at 5:48pm, almost exactly 12 hours. From my perspective the sun would "travel" approximately 45 degrees every 3 hours, from sunup to sundown.
The sun's position that day at noon would be almost identical to it's position 24 hours later. From a positional standpoint, this is true of any time of any location, so I'm not sure how the sun doesn't "have time" to reach a similar position from any given perspective every 24hrs, or 360 degrees.
Now, I am on the equator the length of day (max daylight) on Dec 21st, the winter solstice, would still be 12 hours. Sunrise being 5:37am and sunset, 5:44pm. The observable path of the sun, and the time it takes to "travel" across the sky is still 12hrs, 3hrs for every quarter of 180 degrees.
The farther north or south you are from the equator the more your perspective from the almost perfect 12hr cycle will deviate. Equator deriving it's name from "equal". These deviations are also responsible for seasons and their intensity depending on their distance from the equator, elevation and other geographical factors.
Being so far north, this is why the sun will rise in Juneau, Alaska at 3:51am and set at 10:08pm on June 21st, making for an almost 18hr period of daylight and conversely, a 6hr period of daylight on Dec 21st.
Thank you for explaining this. It won't make a stick of difference to those who are pushing the flat earth idea but it might be helpful or interesting to others.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that these things aren't being taught in schools anymore. I recognize that a lot of people have neither the time nor the inclination to actually go out and watch the sky, to see how it changes over the year.
The inability of flat earthers to explain the 24-hour day at the South Pole is what killed it for me. "The video is fake. They won't let us go there" arguments are pointless. Just check out sunrise and sunset times at any point far south, say in Tierra del Fuego or Tasmania.
Or Canada, FFS
If you're being serious then bless your little heart...
"there's a fuckton of evidence for it. I don't have time to share any of it but watch these hour long videos of confident pseudoscience on YouTube."
A rocket doing a yoyo despin is not evidence, a blurry out of focus video of stars on a very specific webcam is not evidence, and if they already don't understand what "perspective" means then them rambling for an hour about how the sun never sets won't make them magically understand it now.
Check out DAVID WEISS
Forgot about nukes being psyops for the banking war cabal terrorists.
I can't believe people on this forum are actually questioning if the earth is flat. Like holy fuck lmao. I get that what we've been told has been lies, but this is one of those that doesn't need questioning. Like come on people. What would lying about this achieve? Q has stated that we aren't alone in this universe already, but then I'm seeing comments saying Q had to spread some mistruths. Though, I'm pretty sure the mistruths are for post about what will happen like a certain arrest incoming or a plan that they mention, but not about flat earth and aliens. How would that foil the DS? That's literally just information that's not disclosed to the public.
Most of them are newbies, from other conspiracy forums that go banned, who only read Q posts that seem interesting to them. Any inconvenient post is "disinfo is necessary".
Yeah. The people using "disinfo is necessary" seem to not understand what it entails to. I'm just astonished the amount of people who believe the earth is flat 😮💨 Post like these will put off new people who come on here and see this lmao
I've noticed that there are quite a few who've only joined in the past 3 months or so. It makes me think that it's less "newbies" and more "a concerted effort to divide/distract the forum". The way they try to throw the Bible in there is suspect, as well. Like they think because there are a lot of Christians on this board that they will immediately buy into the flat earth concept because "Bible tells them so".
Some of this stuff is downright painful to read. It wouldn't surprise me if they start babbling on about the Giant Dung Beetle that pushes the Sun from horizon to horizon every day.
Oh true, but both flat earthers I knew irl were also extremely pushy with Christianity stuff to the point of calling someone a blasphemer for not "saying a Bible verse that disproves flat earth theory" when they half assed their own Bible verses' connection to flat earth.
It's likely that they are genuine then too, given that's just how they actually think God wants them to spread his good word. But it's just as likely that it's shills trying to turn people away from Christianity by making it appear to be some group of accusatory judgemental flat earthers and not peaceloving forgivers.
You're a wise one, Granny.
Next do the "more land beyond the ice wall" group!
Can just one flat earther answer this question...
If the earth is flat please show us where it ends?
Can only speculate. The most common presumption is Antarctica, a place that is heavily restricted to visit. Only guided tours, research missions, and military projects.
Ok, so what about the other edges?
If they were right, think of the UN logo, Antarctica wraps around the map and the north pole in the center.
People aren't allowed to freely travel below the 60th parallel, and there's a similar restriction north of the 5th parallel. Without claiming certainty of what's beyond, if there are edges, those are the areas where I would want to search.
what else do you believe that they taught you? evolution? holocaust? history of any kind? science, global warming? If it were true, they wouldn't teach it to you. Q wasn't asked what shape is our reality, just if it is flat. define flat. how does Q define flat. I feel kind of stupid believing anything as factual that we've been taught.
Don't toss out the baby with the bathwater.
Science and history are not creations of the cabal -- they only corrupted them.
Modern science was initially created to explain everything without making appeals to God, it was created as antithetical to religion, which is why so many early scientists were killed as heretics.
Firmament and flat Earth are two entirely different concepts, IMO.
Can think of plenty of reasons they would fake satellite imagery. But there are heaps of real satellite imagery which prove Earth is not flat, so...
Oh boy, you're in for a treat.
https://earth.google.com/web/
Mostly joking with the link. My point was that you must not have seen much satellite imagery.
Airplanes cannot fly high enough to capture some images taken by satellite. More to the point -- there are millions of airplane pilots around the world who can testify that Earth is indeed round.
The first things they teach you in school:
Whoa cool dinosaurs! Wow awesome!!!!!!
Space!!!! So big! So untouchable! Whoaaaaaaa space killed the dinosaurs! So sad.
Know what's also sad? Anne Frank and the Holocaust!
Im gonna point this out only once.
Q also said "no outside comms" and yet we sit here day after day micro analysing every tweet from people who are indeed.. NOT Q.
IM not exactly a flat earther im just saying that there a lot of things Q said that this board ignores everyday.. but i don't really ever see THAT mentioned.
Not one of us can definitively say that "WE know" what shape it is.. WE know what we have been told by freemasons and proven liars, so unless you have access to a rocket that can get one of us to space then its a waste of time trying to have this one out with a bunch of people who distrust official sources about every topic if all you have to back up you perspective is provided 2nd hand from "official" science. You may as well be posting links to CNN or FAUX news.
So, considering you wont convince the Flat earthers and you probably know that... You're just going to mock and belittle them? Is that the plan? Interesting
Imo threads like these are intentionally trying to create division...You knew damn well this would antagonise the flat earth people... so WHY do it?? We're all on the same side.
The shape the earth is totally irrelevant as it pertains to Q so WTF is the point.
Sus.
Agreed that the shape of the earth is ultimately irrelevant, we do have bigger issues to worry about.
I do love this topic for the philosophical implications, and there are scientifically valid arguments to be made for many positions (globe, flat earth, being on the interior of the globe, torroidal earth, etc). There are also many core principles in physics that are firmly and objectively established that, regardless of the shape, require that the planet be an enclosed system (biblically referred to as firmament").
For a long time I was among those that would mock "flat earthers" as being antagonistic to science, it wasn't before being confronted with evidence that showed in clear ways how the same effects that people use to "prove" a globe earth work equally well if it were a flat plane.
It's a question that ultimately cannot be concretely answered from an earthly perspective, and so, have to agree that the topic does promote divisiveness.
Now, I saw something earlier but refrained from dragging this nonsense up here, ...so, I posted it on Truth instead kek (only because I have a flatearther on my follow list and this subject gets on my tits). Enjoy a bit of Carl Sagan... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ScEZjDLgKco
Eratosthenes did the trigonometry before any concept of light refraction was known, and the numbers he found are still treated as correct.
The same effect can be created with a closer light source on a flat surface, if instead of assuming the light is coming like an = it were approaching as >. Just saying.
Only a child would believe something so stupid
Regarding the concluding remarks, In engineering school we made assumptions all the time to simplify problems. Some teachers even made us write down our assumptions we used on every homework problem.They could just be making assumptions to simplify the derivation of the equations.
Some common assumptions are assuming a standard temperature (room temperature) and pressure, or assuming something is at sea level
Yes. I am agreeing with their basic engineering approach.
They also made the assumption of a rigid aircraft and constant mass.
Think about it, as an aircraft travels, it uses fuel, therefore the mass of the aircraft will change.And depending on the type of aircraft, its not completely rigid.
If you take into account fuel usage and aircraft flexibility, that's going to change the results of the equations.
It's all good. We are here to learn from each other.
I only see one document from nasa btw. Not one from the faa. So i dont see anything about dipping the nose down.
I believe when flying a plane though, you actually have to keep the nose tilted slightly up to maintain altitude. This is due to the "angle of attack". The angle of attack is different for every plane. It also depends on how fast you are going as well and how dense the air is etc.
And due to making frequent adjustments for turbulence, you wouldn't even notice having to make tiny adjustments to follow the curvature of the earth even if it is necessary. And that would probably be done by autopilot.
The air also gets thinner as you increase in altitude, so if you were maintaining the same speed and just flying straight, the aircraft would eventually start to fall again because higher up the air would not be dense enough to generate the same amount of lift. Planes can only fly to a certain elevation before they reach their limit and can't go any higher
Are you really asking people to believe NASA over their own observations?
NASA lies about a lot.
This is a Q board. Q said the earth isn't flat. We are trying to wake up the masses to the evil that controls this world. The shape of the earth is irrelevant when there's children being trafficked and harvested for organs and sent to pedofiles to be raped tortured and murdered. Can we please focus on the things that matter?? Can we come up with an organized plan to help children who have been trafficked? Don't waste your energy on things that don't matter. The only thing that matters is the safety of the innocent children of the world who have been left to be used as sex toys for satanic pedofiles! Seriously guys. If you watched that video posted yesterday I don't understand how you could want to do anything else other than find a way to stop children being murdered for organs and used by pedofiles. Im pretty sure thats what God wants from us, not wondering about if the earth is flat! FFS!
But muh “disinfo is necessary!”
I’ve literally hear people use that argument to say that Q didn’t really mean the earth was round. Cracks me up every time.
That's all they have.
I didn't think twice about the orientation of our planet until our government started making a big deal about some fringe group of people who said it was flat. Whenever they try to silence someone, I start paying attention. Now I wouldn't be surprised if it was flatter than a pancake. They lie about everything else.
I mean it is flatter than a pancake, but that is just some funny math gimmick in a vsauce video.
It really is the "flat earth" position that's been silenced, it started around 2015 based on google statistics.
Now, if one searches google/youtube for flat earth topics, there's a select group of anti-flat earth people that get highlighted and groups like flat earth society (a likely shill group).
Flat earth is still allowed to be discussed on Reddit and other websites, Q has been banned multiple times until we really made our own forum.
There's one way to prove it. Go to Antarctica, put a marker on the ice when you get there and then follow the coastline until you get back to the marker. Then tell me how far you travelled.
Someone once did that. They never found the marker after 2 years, and ended up going home.
They say the ice calved but he put the marker into solid ground, not ice.
Catholics were shilling for flat earth 500 years ago until Kepler took a huge shit on them.
"Not flat" ≠ "spinning ball floating in 'nothingness'."
https://youtu.be/C3xM8sHGoiQ
I don’t staunchly believe that the earth is flat nor spherical or anything else. I firmly believe there’s so much we don’t know and that’s hidden from us, so I’m open to whatever it may actually be.
On one hand, the people pointing out what the Bible says vs what NASA insists upon are making a good point. On the other hand, I don’t really trust the Bible as we know it either. With as evil as we know people are, why would we not question whether the Bible has been grossly disfigured from what it’s meant to be?
Fuck off OP. You posted this so that people would talk about FE when NO ONE WAS.
You kidding? The shills inject it here all the time.
Never forget forum sliding.
Inb4 "disinfo" crew.
way too late unfortunately, but still right on
The earth is a footstool. It’s not round nor flat, it is a footstool! 😘
Flat earth people are dumbest of the bunch.
The real conspiracy is the the flat earth movement has been pushed in order to discredit actual conspiracies by calling anyone who speaks of them as "flat earthers".
I read something that stuck with me, not sure where it’s from:
“I’d rather have questions that can not be answered, than answers that can not be questioned.”
So with that, I give every idea a go- I may believe it, I may not…
“It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it” -Aristotle
And we should have patience for those that have been fooled, not insinuate they are wrong for it.
People are still debating this while there are paradigm-shifting discoveries being made in the field of biology. Curious minds really need to listen to Michael Levin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLiHLDrOTW8&t=36s. I mean, you seriously need to at least hear this guy out. Mind blown to smithereens. The universe is electric. And we're part of the universe.
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