I was looking into the chemical explosion in east Palestine OH, on the border between Pittsburg PA and Cleveland Ohio. I was looking at this wind map trying to figure out where this toxic waste was headed, and realized that Washington DC was likely right in the path of the toxic material. Is this the true target, and if so, why? What would be accomplished by having a toxic cloud descend on Washington DC?
Lets be real for a moment. Whatever is going on with this train derailment, we are not being told the truth. Similarly, whatever is going on with these weather balloons, we are also not being told the truth. To my eyes, these are active military operations. No one else would have these capabilities. The only question is, which faction of the military? Good guys or bad guys? Patriots or Satanists? Patriots in control?
Good guys don’t release poison into the air near innocent communities.
I would tend to agree with this which is what gives me great pause. However their are alternative explanations which could make it possible for good guys to have done this. But I won’t get into those types of explanations as loose lips can sink ships.
The only explanation would be that we are told it is one chemical & something else was released instead.
edit: Such a short sighted effort on my part. Sorry. There could also be no stopping that derailment & this may have been an effort to minimize damage?
Good idea. I love this site & the brain storming here.
Intriguing theory Anon.
The balloons and train derailment certainly make for quite the coincidence. Given the wind factor, I'd say this is more than mere happenstance. There definitely seems to be a connection here, and the UFO craze over the past week is certainly being used as a distraction. It is quite possible that we just had an attack on American soil by a foreign actor. That we have not heard so much as a peep from Brandon and his administration is also rather telling. If they had a narrative to spin around this derailment, they'd have spun it already. They don't want to acknowledge this story, let alone draw attention to the investigation, as there is a likely possibility that the trail might lead back in the same direction that the weather balloon came.
Eyes open Anons! No fear!
Am I correct in saying the derailment occurred on February 3, 2023, near East Palestine, Ohio. This appears to be recently reported in the news only yesterday. What's with the 9 day delay? Censored news?
If so, the question becomes 'who' has a motive for doing this? And what exactly is the message that's being sent?
They say no crime remains unpunished...... Is the derailment sabotage and revenge? Or an accident? Is it true that all of these container cars were set on fire to get rid of the hazardous material? The ground crews seemed to be on site very quickly, which is expected if it's the local fire department, but the purported decision to 'burn' the spilled toxic chemicals seemed to be a rash and unguided decision. Who gave this order? Were federal government officials on the ground?
It was reported that the chemicals were diverted into a trench and burnt off. It's also reported that the "derailment caused a huge fire" and, "fearing" a massive explosion would release noxious gases and shrapnel into the surrounding area, "emergency responders" intentionally breached 5 cars to let out the chemicals inside. Obviously, the timeline of these actions is very important. Since these chemicals are toxic, it is plausible Hazmat suits equipped with self-sustaining oxygen were employed. I can't imagine the local fire department handling this. The rash decision to burn off the chemicals and presuming without guidance of what they were dealing with, is my view suspect and astounding. Did they know? The chemicals being transported were reported as; Vinyl chloride, Butyl acrylate, Ethylhexyl acrylate, and Ethylene glycol monobutyl.
Vinyl chloride; in a monomer state is highly carcinogenic and is a category 1 carcinogen that also damages organs like the liver. Burning it would disassociate it into H2, C, and HCL and moisture in the air would create hydrochloric acid. Phosphene (COCl2) is another gas that's created from burning chemicals like this.
If we are to assume 'no accidents are by coincidence', who has motive for doing this? When the NordStream pipelines were sabotaged, I wondered then what the Russian response would be. The Russians are very patient and meticulous with planning. They certainly would have a big motive. But, can this be considered an 'eye-for-eye' retribution from the Russians? Right now, I doubt it. I'm not inclined to think the Russians would settle for something as obtuse as a derailment. There has also been an increasing amount of sabotage to electrical transformers across the United States. Whether these acts are copycat incidences or a coordinated effort of sabotaging the infrastructure/economy of the United States is relatively unknown. If it is a hostile force within the US, could they be responsible for the recent derailment? Or is the derailment part of the internal war between globalist/Soros/WEF versus American First patriots in government? Does this also relate to all the food processing plants/chicken egg production fires? What about Chinese involvement?
My question is… Why do we have even one city in America named Palestine? Why?
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sTgcYbU-DTM
Very interesting.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AmvDfhio6Ws
^^^
Quality post
What would be the target? Are the great lakes close by and could they poison a huge water supply? Are they huge areas of farm land in the vicinity? Who owns the cargo?
I'm not necessarily claiming it is a "target". However, all considerations should be looked at, especially with all the other anomalies we are seeing. East Palestine is located along the border with Pennsylvania and is less than 40 miles to Pittsburgh SW of East Palestine. The watershed in that area drains into the Ohio River, which is only about 15 miles away. Obviously, this is an immediate concern, especially with dead fish being reported in the streams in that area.
If you were a saboteur instructed to disrupt commerce, the supply chain would be a good place to start. Vinyl chloride is used to make polyvinyl chloride (PVC), which has many, many different uses. Damaging the supply chain is more effective than destroying a manufacturing plant due to the fact that vinyl chloride is used in so many different applications. Targeting a 18-wheel semi-trailer truck wouldn't affect nearly the level of supply chain as a cargo train. Derailing a train will impact many times the manufacturing plants and would have a ripple effect down the line. The vinyl chloride was destined to be made in polyvinyl resin. It may even had applications for military use. If you were to carry out mission of sabotage, a rural area having less people (less eyes) would ostensibly provide a far better chance of success to accomplishing your mission than in a big city. It appears the fire occurred before the train reached East Palestine. There's a video showing sparks and fire under one of the box cars. The explanation being reported was one of the brakes was the cause. At first, I speculated it could have been from a large piece of steel being caught between the wheel and the track. Could it have been something laid across the tracks? This is speculation on my part, but if it was a brake issue the wheel was completely locked because it was kicking up lots of sparks and fire.
There's definitely farming in this hilly area of Ohio and Pennsylvania.
And then we have CNN reporting on the correlation between the current disaster and the new Netflix movie White Noise about a train crash spilling hazardous chemicals requiring mass evacuations filmed partly on location near East Palestine Ohio...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/02/11/health/ohio-train-derailment-white-noise/index.html
Can't make this matrix shit up!
I think the weirdest thing of all is that CNN seems to be covering predictive programming at all, in any fashion.
That is an interesting title for a movie about a train crash releasing hazardous chemicals.
white noise
noun
Acoustical or electrical noise of which the intensity is the same at all frequencies within a given band over time.
It’s based on an old book
Don't forget the pandemic movie in 2019
https://www.netflix.com/title/81026143
Why would the deep state hit DC? DC is their domain. They hit prime farmland. It was a hit on us.
DC is where puppets live & work, not their masters. Ded men tell no tales
If that train was headed toward the Conway yard near Pittsburgh and would have derailed father down the line it would have happened in much more heavily populated areas... could the failed bearing that supposedly caused the derailment have been intentionally left or made dry so as to create a time bomb to make this happen somewhere near Pittsburgh?
The excuse of a failed bearing is an easy detail to make up. The true cause of the derailment could have been anything. If the decision was made to lie about the cause, because the cause was much more flagrant, then the world would never learn about the true cause. So in this case you cannot look at “cause”, but instead you must look at outcome.
For a great example of this, think of Covid. Think of the “cause” of Covid that the world was told. A convenient lie. Bats in a bat food market. However, when you consider the effects of Covid, as well as the global coordinated response that was clearly against all reason and science, as well as all the other evidence of lab involvement, then you can backtrack to determine that, even though you have no direct “evidence” that Covid was an intentional bio weapon released from a lab, you know with pretty much 100% certainty that Covid was a bio weapon that was intentionally released on the world and you also know that this weapon was not released by patriots but rather by evil evil people with evil evil intents.
I would think a toxic cloud might be an upgrade to some of what has already descended on DC.
I was thinking that very thought. Although as a disinfectant it would be about as effective as lighting a match in a septic tank. You just aren't getting rid of that stench.
Wasn't the first 'balloon', three buses long?
Strange to have a tracking balloon that long.
Unless it wasn't that long as was reported?
As for the other balloons, not sure.
Edit: Did you see this one, this happened over the English channel.
https://youtu.be/SpbnCe_i090
They said it's an asteroid but. ... ack, can speculate all day 🙄
If it was the Biden administration, they would have been the short buses.
With the window lickers....
Look at it at slowest speed (25%) and at 0:05-0:06 it looks like it's traveling towards 5:00 then 4:00 (analog clock) then takes an abrupt 90-degree turn towards 7:00. I didn't think asteroids made turns like that. I'm going to assume there was some foreknowledge about the path of that object for people to be standing there videotaping that otherwise "uneventful" location.
I have no idea wtf is going on tbh
Interesting theory, but why would they need to fetch that data by themself, and especially only at a certain level (around 40kft)?
The National Weather Service in the US are releasing balloons twice a day from 92 locations all around the US.
Worldwide there are released balloons from almost 900 locations every day, all year around.
The (wind) data are gathered and used to create weather forecasts(+more.
The deep state would most certainly have access to this data, as it’s widely available in the GRIB format.
https://www.weather.gov/bmx/kidscorner_weatherballoons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRIB
Good points. These are the type of details I was hoping for. Perhaps you are right and my theory is wrong!
This sucks. Throat and eyes burning a little, lethargic and i got rained on.
🙁😡 Prayers for you friend.
I feel like a certain three letter agency is behind everything going on here at home with the intent to pin it all on white supremacists and militias.
This is why I think they left it up. Important to know where exactly they planned on sending it. Ironically, by exposing it, learning it was not a threat, and leaving it be, they actually exposed a fair bit of Chinese intelligence.
They don't need balloons to track wind. That's like, old technology.
https://www.goes-r.gov/featureStories/measuringWindsToHelpPredictTheWeather.html#:~:text=Forecasters%20use%20wind%20estimates%20from,derived%20over%20Earth's%20polar%20regions.
Why DC?
Well yesterday during the superbowl they referred to DC as the military district of Washington. Never heard of that before.
Seriously? MDW is very well known. Wiki says it was formed in 1862. I remember it from my time at the Pentagon - it is 100% legit. I even carried one of their handheld radios when I was working at Arlington Cemetery.
https://mdwhome.mdw.army.mil/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Military_District_of_Washington
Thanks for the correction. All new info to me!
By the way - if I came across as harsh I apologize. I didn't mean to. I sometimes forget not everyone spent 5 years stuck at the Pentagon like I did.
Working at Arlington was the best part of it. I was enlisted and I would go there after work (and weekends) for my part time job. I used to work the JFK site, the Tomb of the Unknowns (not a Tomb Guard but the people that assisted them), and I escorted dignitaries. I met tons of generals (Westmoreland was really cool and I would talk to him for hours), all of the Kennedys (I once held Caroline's checkbook in my hands when I was trying to identify her to allow her to drive in), and a fair amount of heads of state including Netanyahu when he visited while I was there. I did 5 straight Memorial Day ceremonies with the POTUS as well, but unfortunately that was Clinton at the time. He was nice though.
I worked there so long that on my last day the Historian asked me to go take the flag down at Arlington House with him, we folded it, and he gave it to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Beirut_explosion
A cornered animal is the most dangerous.
Over target.
Interesting occurrence and good catch remembering the Lebanese incident.
It almost seems like the entire fiasco-turned-tragedy was orchestrated. Who TH stores fireworks next to explosives? Bunch of Ukrainians on board who quickly got out of there once the ship was stranded, basically, in the port? People sounding the warning alarm before the explosion and being ignored? In any case, that was a horrible tragedy in Beirut. It remains to be seen how bad the fallout from this one is going to be.
There should be heightened security around all dangerous materials transportation not just in the US, but everywhere. If the DS is looking to inflict death and destruction on a large scale they won't necessarily care where they do so. On the other hand, if their coffers are running low they may want to focus on areas where the truth about them is starting to seep out into the mainstream.
That's the crux of the situation we find ourselves in. Who's security? Police, FBI, even some Military can be bought for the right price. Paid to look the other way while soros utilizes the news cycle to bury the truth.
We are living in a booby trapped house so patience is required while the rooms are swept clean one by one.
See something say something.
Good points.
I did some contracting at a major midwest N/S railyard last year around the time of union negotiations. Never under estimate the anger from the employees. I think we will find a disgruntled employee at the end of this story.
Thanks for pointing this out. I saw another post somewhere regarding the same idea, but the winds were blowing down to Florida. Now that I thought was very far fetched.
A friend said this morning that reporters are being arrested for trying to cover the derailment. How could reporting true news be considered a criminal act?
Oh yeah - 'cuz Cabal.
First wave set trajectories, second wave are emps. Balloons are drones. According to this video.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/05/u-s-militarys-newest-weapon-against-china-and-russia-hot-air-00043860
https://rumble.com/v299p5a-is-an-emp-attack-imminent-highlights-from-ninos-corner.html
I was thinking it could be to cover up the vakz damage in pittsburgh and beyond...
Maybe this time it really was Russia. Payback for NordStream.
Have we heard of anyone being harmed yet by this yet?
Check out windy.com Very awesome "app".
Atmospheric levels are different. Computer models would be equally reliable
Republicans are working in DC. Trying to get rid of as many as they can perhaps?
Who else rode a balloon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg3ojzPQVtU
Very interdasting theory…
Saying Patriots are in control is like saying God is in control. People still have a free will. They are not enslaved. There are still evil people in the world hell bent on doing evil things to innocent people. God and Patriots are not directing evil things to occur. They are not in control the way most people think.
I think you mistake my intent. Q is very clear that the cabal is a dangerous animal with the ability to strike back. Planning an attack like this on the citizens of the US to blackmail or otherwise deter patriots from taking actions against them is something well within their means. Look at Covid for example. So the question in this case is, what is the target of this attack. What’s the purpose? Is it to destroy farmland? Is it to harm us citizens? Is it to shut down DC and the swamp? This is what I don’t know. If we knew the answer to these questions, then we would know who had initiated this attack in the first place.
However, Given that Biden did not know about the balloons at all, and given that they waited so long to shoot them down, and given that they spun the narrative that it was “China”, which then gives them the authority to shoot down these balloons, even though these were very likely not of Chinese origin, especially given the initial excuse that it was “blown off course” only to subsequently discover many more balloons, which indicates that China was not aware of them, and then given that subsequently Biden has been having these balloons shot down left and right, I think it’s a fairly good guess that these balloons are NOT of cabal or Chinese origin. Much more likely they are of clandestine US military origin. That was the intent of my comments, to spir discussion and consideration of these ideas to see how others felt about them.
Moves and counter-moves.................
It was not a false flag. It was gross negligence.
How difficult would it have been for a bad actor to eliminate all the grease in a bearing box 100 miles up the rails? If this is a common problem that usually survives until the train stops for repairs at the next rail yard how easy would it be to set up this failure? Negligence is a common patsy.
I didnt say it was a false flag. Whats your evidence for your statement?
I listened to part of a Twitter Space yesterday where some train people were on and they said the train unions are fighting and that this was caused because regular maintenance was ignored by one union or the other. [But I have to say anyone can get into a Twitter space so it's the perfect place to 'plant' narratives.] Anyway, just wanted to say that it's possible that the crash may not have been planned but was exploited by burning off the toxic crap. They didn't do the 2nd step until almost a week later, I think that delay could be significant.
God is not a ball-dropper.