758 HOW WE GOT TO NOW. You only get podcasts at the Quality we see here in this one maybe every 6 months, tops. This is absolutely not to be missed. (rumble.com) 🐸 HERE ALL WEEK! 🐸 posted 106 days ago by catsfive 106 days ago by catsfive +763 / -5 239 comments share 239 comments share save hide report block hide replies
I'll be your "summary angel" tonight and spend my time transcribing some of this interview for your reading. I know how daunting a three-hour video can be, however, summarized into paragraphs it can be digested a bit more quickly. (I will work on this more tomorrow morning)
The talk is between David and Josh, which I will represent by D: and J:. They open the discussion with a few broad questions of the Q subject:
J: Are we right now in the middle of a white hat operation in which the white hats are working with the people to expose what's happening? (Josh admits that his assessment is that there are definitely white hats).
J: Who is Q, are they really military, is it a psy-op, is Trump connected, etc. ?
D: If our listeners can start with the basis of looking at themselves as simply navigators of information, doing their diligence to investigate and contemplate theories and hypotheses, we can retain a healthy outlook on these theories. None of us are behind closed doors making decisions, none of us have a full grasp on what is really happening behind this "cold war" of epic proportions. (David admits that he believes that there are a group of white hats at war for the future of humanity helping preserve our freedom, find the truth, unveil secrets, and ultimately save Western civilization from being demolished by the globalist groups.) Therefore, Dave and Josh will be offering their own connections, spurred by their own research.
J: If Q is a military operation, then why would the military be interested in starting it to begin with? Josh lists a few events that spurred his own awakening:
1.Bill Clinton had an incident of giving nuclear secrets to China (China Doll) and the media coverage was largely swept up by the Monica Lewinski affair.
Josh began digging into the defense logistics agency. His own assumption is that he doesn't think they were actually nuclear triggers. The company that received all of the supplies at the Defense Logistics Agency is "E.G.G.".
"'EGG', where have I heard that before?" Bob Lazar (renowned in UFO community) claims to have worked at Area 51 S4, who was recommended to be hired by a man named Edward Teller (who was on the Manhattan Project) who worked for EGG. EGG runs the flights out of Vegas to Area 51. EGG is essentially the one who hired Bob Lazar to work on reverse-engineering exotic technology at Area 51. Bob claimed that in order for us to understand these technologies, the universities would need to get involved with analysis. (remember that for later)
Since EGG was the one receiving the "mislabeled" technology, chances are they were involved with the mishandling of classified materials.
The ten general officers that were in chain of command of this technology were reprimanded/fired. One of those men was Lt. General Kevin Sullivan. The reason Josh remembers his name here is because of a man "Jayden X", who was involved in selling footage of the Jan. 6th incident to the CNN for ~20 thousand dollars. Jayden X had a last name of Sullivan and was adopted by the same retired Lt. General. This Lt. General was ejected from the Defense Logistics Agency as a commanding officer and primary in the chain of custody for the classified technology in 2006.
Josh questions whether someone was trying to steal these weapons, and whether somebody high in the chain of command was willing to sign off on the hand-off of classified tech and information. Josh wonders if in this scenario, wouldn't there be observers and witnesses in the military who might think "We've got a problem!".
A four star Admiral admitted to Josh that these "white hats" do exist, and when these events occurred in 2006-2007, a group of serving and retired military generals met in secret to discuss these events and investigate. They created a "special access program" in order to gather information in order to find out who was involved; Politicians? Military? Contractors?
When Obama became president, he started "slimming out" the conservative generals within the military. Obama also began exchanging technology and information with China, as well as allowing China into our critical infrastructure in the USA. (10000 talons program where he allowed China/US to exchange information between universities and share professors/information.)
Around 2010, we started to see hacked emails of people like George W. Bush, etc. in the news, which showed that the bad actors likely knew that they were being watched by military intelligence. Then, we saw the Snowden leaks, (Snowden was trained by Brennan's in CIA and later transferred to NSA) which ousted their clandestine program which showed that the NSA had the capability to spy on everybody, including politicians, military, citizens, and bad actors.
The black hats essentially exposed the white hat plot to track them, and when Obama was reelected in 2012, he ousted over 135 generals and admirals within the US armed forces. These were all constitutional and conservative admirals and generals.. coincidence?
Also during this time, Mike Flynn recommends Admiral Mike Rogers to Obama in order to take head of the NSA post Snowden-leak. Obama hired Rogers, and we know Rogers was the one who tipped off (while on active duty) Flynn and Trump that they were being spied on in Trump Tower with FISA warrants.
This evidence points to existence of a group of "white hats" within the intelligence communities.
After this time, the scandals such as Uranium One, Ben Ghazi, ISIL/ISIS weapons running, "No-name" funding ISIS with weapons, Ambassador of Libya phone-calling Hillary Clinton to report American weapons being smuggled through Libya and then dying later that night, etc..
Andrew Breitbart and Michael Hastings were the two primary reporters of the world on these types of scandals (exposing government crime) in the media. Hastings did an expose on General McChrystal using government contractors to wipe out ISIL/ISIS within Iraq and Afghanistan. McChrystal got heat on this because the government contactors did not show mercy/discretion towards civilian casualties.
McChrystal got fired by Obama, which rose Hastings to an elevated level of stature within the journalistic community. Hastings was investigating some anonymous tips given to him regarding secret weaponry being developed by the intelligence agencies and their ability to control anything connected to a computer remotely. A few weeks later, Hastings is driving his Mercedes (computer connected btw) and suddenly accelerates to 150 mph straight into a tree and dies. Many believe that the very weapon he was investigating was used to end his life.
Andrew Breitbart began journalistic coverage of "Pedogate", before "pizzagate" was even known, and began to publicly mention John Podesta and Hillary Clinton being pedophiles. There's reason to believe that Breitbart had been leaked "pizzagate" before it became public. Breitbart memorably "declared open warfare" on the media, and then died to a heart attack (heart attack gun?) at the age of 43.
2016 NSA tweets that ~"Pizzagate is real, please investigate, this tweet will delete" and Flynn came out and said that spirit cooking is real, and Flynn's son retweeted it. 16 year plan of Hillary Clinton to a war with Russia leaks...
Josh believes that white hats collaborated behind the scenes with other nations to ensure that democrats could not steal the 2016 election (think Ukraine, Burisma, and a server) and that is why the Trump won.
Trump quotes "the calm before the storm. (which storm mr. president?) You'll find out" one month before Q starts posting. Josh mentions the possible alternate meaning of "the COMM before the storm" where comm= communication, meaning the communication (meeting) before the storm.
White Hats had to get somebody into the presidency to basically restart the whole investigatory process (quashed by NSA leaks and Obama layoffs) in the Congress and Senate. Also, the white hats had only gathered criminal information due to illegal methods (without FISA warrants) and the info was admissible in court of law, so they started leaking straight to the public (Wikileaks, pizzagate, Hillary emails).
Trump and Pompeo immediately began by cancelling the 10000 talents program, and all collaboration with China through education. Over the next four years, over 28 different professors are arrested for tax fraud/tax evasion. Josh investigates these firings, and finds that every one of those fired either had a Department of Energy, Department of Defense, DARPA, or NASA grant to develop technology. These were the guys who were visiting China to "collaborate" and share education/information with the Chinese (think Dr. Charles Lieber). Josh investigated examples of what those fired were working on. For example: nanotechnology, advanced propulsion, space materials, advanced weapon systems...
How did China know those exact professors at those exact universities? Didn't Bob Lazar mention getting universities involved with reverse engineering exotic technology?
ENDING HERE, GETTING LATE. PLANNING ON DOING MORE IN THE MORNING. WWG1WGA
PART TWO: my note: It seems like what Josh is getting at in this section of the discussion is that which was told to the public to be "nuclear weapons" may have been classified technology working it's way into the hands of bad actors.
Going back to the 1990's under Bill Clinton with John Podesta as Chief of Staff, they were making attempts to secure access to classified technologies from the military industrial complex and failed miserably.
Since they were having a hard time getting access, Josh thinks that when Obama got into office, he maneuvered to grant access of these technologies to certain universities in order to work on projects from Special Access Programs.
Now regarding Hillary's emails, there's a video of the Inspector General of the intelligence community (Inspector McCullough) in which the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee essentially asked "what was in these Hillary Clinton emails?" and the Inspector basically responded ~"It's classified, can't tell you, even in a S.C.I.F., these are Special Access Programs which even the President doesn't have access to." So even the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence committee is basically left in the dark, and signs point towards highly sensitive classified information found in Hillary's email info/hardware.
Josh says that part of the classified information that couldn't be mentioned in that hearing (high secret SAP info) was the names of the universities and the professors that were getting the research and advanced technologies that were in SAPs.
We learned in the Horowitz Report (page 302?) that Hillary (as Secretary of State) did not have the security clearance or authority in order to be included on the email chain regarding classified information. Hillary was interacting with the emails in the chain by responding to them or forwarding them to her secretary of state email address. When she did this, there was metadata in her home server that the emails were sent to gmail address which was IP tracked to China. AKA, Hillary forwarded the info of which universities and professors were handling classified tech straight to China.
Remember, the Clinton Foundation was making millions of dollars off of China through donations. China would in turn fund the university/professor, bring them to the Wuhan Institute of Technology, and start blackmailing/coercing them into revealing the project they were working on and all of their research.
Now, Trump comes in, and he/Pompeo start shutting down these programs and their access, as well as arresting these professors. FYI, when Biden took office, he immediately started this program back up.
Josh thinks the reasons Q started therefore is that the white hat operation to uncover the plot to smuggle classified material to China was exposed/halted, and the white hats clearly know the 16 year plan to destroy America and allow China to take over.
Josh contrasts how before Q in the early 2000's, corporate media was largely uninvolved in the information exchange online. People were ditching outlets like "60 Minutes" and Walter Cronkite in favor of social media and independent media to form their conclusions. The white hats likely saw this as a great opportunity to capture the attention of the public with online presence. The idea of information exchange is crucial to our world as we know it, therefore vital to gain an advantage against the black hats.
Remember in this time (before Q) there were tons of "Anons" on 4chan claiming to be insiders, (FBIanon, White House Insider Anon, etc.) with inside knowledge of DC and Trump, and also Wikileaks was dropping around the same time, which increased the eyes of the public onto boards to dig for information.
Here starts Q with a brazen "Hillary Clinton will be arrested at this date and at this time" etc., and Josh's opinion is that this was a bold opening statement which garnered some attention and got some fresh eyes. (Josh believes that the white hats probably took over the "Q account" later, after they saw the attention it got) Q then starts to gain clout by things like deltas, Q posting seconds before Trump, misspellings in Trumps tweets that correlate to Q posts, etc. "Weird coincidences" Q therefore established credibility as being connected to Trump somehow.
Why would Q post like this? Because the white hats understood after analyzing peoples behavior on 4chan (researching, digging, baking) they could harness these truth seekers in order to be digital soldiers in the information warfare perpetrated on the civilian public.
Thus began the influx of podcasts/videos/threads/discussions of people beginning to communicate about these subjects, form their own conclusions, share their own research, highlight these 4chan threads etc. (here we are today!). Josh mentions the Q account probably being taken over by white hats after the initial ludicrous claims, as well as a certain radio host which was largely fluff until Flynn started retweeting his material and it became better quality material. (Josh didn't want to name names, but who was this, Bongino?)
The Q operation is basically a psychological operation which was enacted in order to refine the truth seeking movement, which targeted the demographic of patriotic Americans and Christian ideology. It then gained a massive following first on Reddit, then on Twitter. People started doing shows about Q, including Josh himself. Q was then targeted by the federal government, and was the first "conspiracy theory" that congress ever had meetings on to condemn. This added to the legitimacy of the Q phenomenon, and showed the gravity of the situation regarding the Q operation. Add in the Q deltas, and the supposed Donald Trump pics being posted by Q which may have been taken in Trumps presence on AF1, in White House, etc.
June 10th 2018, Trump is scheduled to travel to meet with Kim Jong Un in Singapore after leaving the G8 summit in Canada. About the time his flight was scheduled to 100 miles out of the coast over the pacific ocean, a camera gets footage of a missile on the horizon. Although this event was dispelled in the media, Josh claims he has a plethora of experience (from being in the military) of launching missiles, and gives his certainty that the image shows a missile being launched (probably by a submarine). Trump, however, flew the long way east towards Europe. Josh states that normally, when subs "go dark" (no communication in or out) they cannot be reached/tracked. Likely, the submarine that shot the missile would have been dark for weeks with nothing but orders from higher up. Therefore, if Trump was tipped off to this assassination attempt and flew the opposite direction around the globe, the submarine would not have known and would have fired the missile regardless.
Q had before posted #432 in Dec. 2017 with the misspelling of the word "missle", and right after the missile event, Trump tweeted the same misspelling of the word.
On the Q boards, there was a search for the possible reason to explain the missile event and of possibly which submarine it could have been, and there was talk about a submarine named the USS Richard B Russell, which was decommissioned in '03-'04 at an island known as "Ketron Island" in Washington.
2 months to the day after the missile event on August 10, 2018 a baggage handler at Seattle Tacoma Washington airport goes into one of the hangars and pulls a large aircraft (dash 8) out of the hangar, refuels it, and takes off on the runway. Josh worked for United Airlines for years, and mentions the badges that you must wear when you work in an airport in order to gain access to different areas of the facility. For example, a baggage handler has no business being in a hangar and should not have access to such areas,
The "baggage handler" flying this aircraft became tailed by an F15 and then flew in circles around Ketron Island. The radar signature shown by the traveling aircraft formed a Q shape! Then, he crashed the plane into the island and died. The pilot who died had only 5 friends on Facebook, all of which were wives of military generals. The mans name was Richard B Russell!
Josh believes that the white hats have had to morph the Q plan over time (snowden, military layoffs, and later covid, ukraine etc.) by getting Trump into the presidency because they didn't realize how organized, deep, and dangerous the deep state really was. They would have to do a longer plan with America first candidates and basically restart America from the ground up at the local levels.
Since the evidence of bad actors had largely been obtained by means which were admissible in court, Josh believes that the white hats created a Special Access Program to utilize the Army Judge Advocate General. This is basically the military's way to authorize FISA warrants instead of the FISA court. Josh believes that this is how the white hats continued to maintain control after Joe Biden took office.
What were the hints to this? In 2020, DJT started to say a specific name: Lt. General John Daniel "Raisin'" Caine. On 9/11/01, Caine was an Air Force pilot with the Air National Guard over Washington, DC. Caine was one of two fighter aircraft over DC when a 767 hit the pentagon. He testified in the 9/11 commission and said some things which are still classified. He claims he had multiple opportunities to shoot down "what he considered to be a plane", but was told to stand down by the vice president of the USA who was at the pentagon. The Vpotus should have zero military authority, only the President.
Trump puts Caine in charge of Afghanistan, and Caine and crew promptly wipes out ISIS/ISIL. After Afghanistan, Trump puts Caine in charge at the Pentagon in charge of all Special Access Programs. Caine now oversees in 2018 every single SAP and all of the funding for SAPs in the US military. He also became one of the very few people in the country who can create SAPs, and all SAPs would have to go straight through this man specifically.
When Biden took over in 2020, Caine became a liaison of clandestine services between the pentagon and the CIA. Josh thinks Caine created a SAP to provide funding to utilize various resources to continue spying on Joe Biden and crew once they took the presidency in 2020. "When does a bird sing?" When it's in a cage? No, when it's free! Biden needed the space to be able to maneuver and provide information. The deep state thought they were free the moment Joe Biden took over. The white hats then gathered all new evidence of crime and wrongdoing, and Josh thinks that this is the phase we are in right now. The potential is to bring Trump back into office in 2024, and then expose all of the data collected during the Biden administration.
HALTING FOR NOW, THIS DOES TAKE SOME TIME O:-) MORE LATER.
PART THREE: Josh has now given the floor to David
David begins to share his notes by sharing a clip of a speech by General Vallely. David asks you to imagine being in the military and seeing your brothers and sisters in arms dying in banker funded foreign wars for the gains the "deep state". What would you do if you were in one of these military institutions and you saw bad things happening (betrayals, infiltration, etc.), but were unable to speak out in the presence of domestic enemies? Imagine not only warding off foreign enemies, but those amongst you whom you should be able to trust.
D: Do you personally believe that all good actors just walked away from the gates and abandoned ship when bad actors gained control and power within these institutions? What if these white hat resistors were in the minority? Would it be wise to use force to take over government institutions (especially before the people are even awake to what's happening)? How, therefore, would you begin to awaken the public and get them to fight with you?
1:18:45 The Vallely audio clip begins. General Paul E. Vallely, Retired U.S. Army General and Chairman of Stand Up America
Vallely is asked, "Do you know who the individual calling their self (or themselves) Q? What are you at liberty to say, or is it a bunch of bunk?"
Vallely: ~"Let me just tell you that Qanon is tied to information and it comes out a group called the "Army of Northern Virginia" who is a group of military intelligence specialists (of over 800 people) that advise the President. The President doesn't have a lot of confidence in the CIA or the DIA much anymore. He relies on these 'real operators', most of them are special operations type of people. This is where Q picks up their information, as I understand it.
Interviewer: ~"I notice that 4chan, with "chan" meaning "child" in Japanese, is now going to become 8kun, with "kun" meaning "young adult" in Japanese. So, there's a ripening of age in the psy-op. I also hear 8kun will be backed up by military satellites in case of an internet blackout. Can you say anything about that, General?"
Vallely: Well, I know what they're looking at now, they're actually creating a separate internet, and this internet is so high-tech it cannot be compromised (of course, that's a conjecture). But there's technologies in clouding, and all of the stuff that they're working on (and the Chinese have been working on it as well), but they're really looking at alternatives to communicate worldwide with an alternative to our internet as we know it today. That's all I can tell you."
David plays a video clip from a news station, reporting inside "Operation Not Forgotten": 39 critically missing children located and recovered, 2 weeks, 8 agencies.
A narrator speaks over footage of a young child reunited with her parents after being critically missing. "Trust in the plan! There are good people fighting against the sickest, most evil people in the creation of evil. Come on! There are good people out there, you get up and be a part of this!"
"Everything is about Donald Trump and DECLAS. The main people behind all of this DECLAS have been the NSA. As soon as access to the information of everything about the public became available, a group of people within the military said 'This is our chance!'"
"The NSA Security and Counter-Intelligence Directorate, aka "Q group", is basically the agency's internal police force. They're basically the Cops, or the police of the NSA. Their main job is to make sure that their many analysts, officers, program managers are not targeted by foreign intelligence services."
Tony Bobulinski is shown interviewing, mentioning that has held a Q clearance before and was well trained on what it means to "be compromised", to know who you can talk to and do business with, and Tony assures that he believes Joe Biden is compromised.
Tony ~"What these minions who are running things for 'whoever is hidden in the background' just don't seem to get is that they're just as vulnerable as we are."
Josh: The army of Northern Virginia is definitely real. I do think they're involved in the Q operation, but I don't think they're Q themselves. I notice three distinct personalities in the Q posts, and will elaborate later on who I think they are.
David: If this is done militarily, we need to first realize that this is not just a war for America. Like I was telling Canadians during the truck rally, we're not just fighting Justin Trudeau and the mandates, and it's not just about the pandemic. The pandemic is just a symptom of the real problem.. All these people are really just symptoms, ex. Trudeau, Biden.
D: So if you were actually going to take on this (black hat) infiltration operation of America and all western countries, you would have to get multiple countries involved together at the same time. You would have to get people in the private world (ex. Elon Musk) involved, and you might even need to resort to their own tactics (like blackmail, infiltration) to help you out.
D: So think of the way that they infiltrated our countries, can you reverse-engineer the infiltration in order to remove them? When JFK noted in a speech that it's infiltration, not invasion, you might imagine they knew back then what they were up against. You start to wonder about Trump's world tour when he was first elected. It's the BRICS nations!
David admits that this is when he started wondering if Trump was having effects behind the scenes that weren't represented accurately by Trump "on camera". What's the actual effect of him being in office?
David thinks that Trump had a certain role to play: "the bait". By watching Trump's words/actions, the reaction he elicits from the media, and then seeing plans/events change away from the way David thinks they were planned to go (by bad actors).
D: For this context alone, I believe there is an internal pushback (by white hats) from multiple fields: not only military, Intelligence, media, Hollywood, academia.. I know on the bigger cosmic level, humanity itself seems to be going through a consciousness evolutionary phase. At least, there's a momentous wave happening right now that's giving us the choice to face these issues or move away from them.
D: We're evolving or regressing, and that filters down to every human being on planet Earth. This is happening in the media, private corporations, investments, the military, the medical complex, the governments and everywhere else. This is going on worldwide because the war is worldwide. These bad actors are not just trying to take over Russia, or do an experiment in an isolated country.. I think that they did those things throughout history in the small-scale in order to learn how to refine their methods of control over people and apply it globally.
D: So you imagine, there has to be an "immune system response" from within the realm of human consciousness. I don't believe that evil/tyranny is the only power in the world. They're just psychopathic and ruthless, and have been embedding themselves in our world institutions for "decades". You don't flush that swamp in just 2 years. You could "kick the door in" on these globalists, but you run a high risk for civilian casualties in that scenario.
D: For that reason, you might think that certain people have to come out and say certain things regarding the Q movement. General Flynn has to come out and deny the Q movement, same with Trump, Kash Patel, etc.. If they don't, other factors that need to "come through" can't. You might have to lose the battle to win the war
D: We have to look at this information war from our own vantage point, since none of us know even the half of it. Be wary of bad actors who would misrepresent information online, and do your own due diligence to connect info without overcommitting.
D: I still remember that when the Q drops became popular to research, the "old school" truth community (911, NWO, InfoWars, etc.) did not take kindly to the Q community! They all were saying that the Q movement looked like a legitimate way to get truthers to be sitting on their hands (not acting) in the fight for humanity.
D: I can understand if that's your impression, but what happens when you do the research and get to the nitty gritty and look at the big picture? Remember the goal! Think of how many people are now alert and engaged with what's going on in the world. Look at how many people are analyzing news footage, super bowl halftime shows, looking at the information coming out and doing digs, trying to think critically, and trying to question what they know, and wake people up on parts of this.
D: No, it's not perfect, and yes there's been a lot of mistakes, and yes there have been a lot of infiltrators, but that's to be expected in a war like this! That reasoning doesn't equate to "Oh, the whole Q thing was a psy-op to drive you into inaction." Especially since the pandemic, look at the grassroots movements created in order to hold the politicians feet to the fire! Canadian Trucker convoy is a brilliant example of this.
D: So if the military is thinking, "How do we get people involved? If social media will be the battleground for humanity (think bad actors using your information against you), and people are spread across all social medias (FB, Twitter, IG, etc.) how do we find a way to embolden and empower people with basic skills of critical thinking, logical thinking, investigative techniques, understanding how these things work, reading government documents, analyzing footage, looking for media psy-ops, etc."
D: Before the Trump phenomena happened, that awareness was only found in a small percentage of the population. So you wonder if the white hats thought, 'We gotta give this group of truthers a boost and give them some training about how to do this digital narrative warfare.' That's how I think it got started. We can debate whether that changed course, but there's one thing I think you should realize:
This is warfare! "The plan" changes constantly! You can't plan for every single scenario that's going to unfold. The plan has changed since this show started! (The plan has changed since I started typing these up! haha) When you go to war, you have a general understanding of your plan and your enemy's battle plan. But you can't plan for every little scenario that's going to unfold!"
Josh: And it goes both ways! Moves and countermoves
Dave: So the white hats knew what they were getting into when they declared war on these people, and I'm of the opinion that had there been no "awakening process" to the degree that we've had with the public, and no help from the insiders reaching out to the public to help them wake up, we wouldn't be here right now. We would already be in the new world order.
D: Without me even reading a single Q drop, I already knew about the 16 year plan and where we were headed. According to that alone, we shouldn't even be here right now. The fact that we're here right now, (and I know there are horrible casualties in this war and horrible things going on), I think it should have been ten times worse had there been no resistance.
STOPPING FOR NOW. MORE TOMORROW. THANKS FOR THE LOVE, I'M HAPPY TO SERVE. HAPPY FRIDAY, BE SAFE AND GOD BLESS!
FORGOT TO PROOFREAD, EDITED FOR GRAMMAR
Thank you so much - incredible recap.
Phenomenal transcription. Thank you for your selfless work for the good of us all.
However a caution as to this podcast, there may well be disinformation woven into the material:
David's seemingly uncritical acceptance of Vallely is really problematical - because of Vallely's military Psyops work/expertise on the mass brainwashing of populations, or MindWar + his long term relationship with Michael Aquino (priest of Anton LaVey's church of s__ and founder of the Temple of Set).
Every so often (on a regular basis) waves of posts promoting Vallely get posted to this board. But what Vallely's actual agenda may be definitely merits further research by people here.
Wouldn't the more trusted podcasts, websites, etc. be the very places black hats would try to insert disinfo in order to steer the narrative?
More Vallely information (from a previous GA post) is in the Reply below:
Major General Paul E. Vallely on Q-group - The Great Awakening - Where We Go Qne, We Go All!
Not sure Vallely should be considered a 'trusted source'. He has worked in close association with Michael Aquino (priest of the 'temple of set'), in the field of psychological operations and mind control:
Note: page has been scrubbed since last visit 3-weeks ago, but it was:
http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/intro-michael-aquino-paul-vallely Intro to Michael Aquino & Paul Vallely’s -From PSYOP to MindWar/ The Psychology of Victory- | True Free Thinker >
GENERALS PAUL E. VALLELY AND THOMAS MCLNERNEY REVEAL ALL - "Gen Tom McInerney and Gen Paul Vallely join John Chambers’ Making Sense of the Madness" by LadyV
reveries_aquatiques 2 points 4 days ago +2 / -0 (edited)
Not sure Vallely should be considered a 'trusted source'.
He has worked in close association with Michael Aquino (of the 'temple of set'), in the field of psychological operations and mind control:
Note: page has been scrubbed since last visit 3-weeks ago, but it was:
Intro to Michael Aquino & Paul Vallely’s -From PSYOP to MindWar/ The Psychology of Victory- | True Free Thinker >
'…wars are fought and won or lost not on battlefields but in the minds of men…'
From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory came about when, in 1980 AD, Colonel Paul Vallely (who became a Major General, USAR) asked the then Major Michael A. Aquino, PSYOP Research & Analysis Team Leader, “to draft a paper that would encourage some future thought within the PSYOP community.”
It was published under the auspices of the Headquarters, 7th Psychological Operations Group, United States Army Reserve at the Presidio of San Francisco, California in 1980 AD.
In 2003 AD, Aquino, by then Lt. Colonel, Military Intelligence, USAR-Ret, wrote a new intro to the paper wherein he noted that “Colonel Vallely sent copies of it to various governmental offices, agencies, commands, and publications involved or interested in PSYOP. He intended it not as an article for publication, but simply as a ‘talking paper’ to stimulate dialogue.”
He noted “That should have been the end of MindWar: a minor ‘staff study’ which had done its modest job.” Although, why would it have been the end of it considering that which he refers to as “the extensive and lively letters he [Vallely] received concerning it” from those various governmental offices, agencies, commands and publications?
In any case, Aquino notes that it was not the end of it mostly due to the online conspiracy theory community:
With the arising of the Internet in the 1980s, however, MindWar received an entirely unexpected - and somewhat comic - resurrection. Allusions to it gradually proliferated, with its "sinister" title quickly winning it the most lurid, conspiracy-theory reputation. The rumor mill soon had it transformed into an Orwellian blueprint for Manchurian Candidate mind control and world domination. My own image as an occult personality added fuel to the wildfire:
MindWar was now touted by the lunatic fringe as conclusive proof that the Pentagon was awash in Black Magic and Devil-worship.
Well, it may not be “awash in Black Magic and Devil-worship” but consider that which Aquino, former priest of Anton LaVey’s Church of Satan who went on to establish the Temple of Set, regarding to the legal battle between another military man, US Army Maj Grady McMurtry and Kenneth Grant regarding the legitimate chartered of the US Grand Lodge of the Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO):
[IMAGE] Upside-Down 5-pointed star:
7th Psychological Operations Group emblem published at the header of the MindWar paper.
Michael Aquino and wife Lilith (the name of a folkloric demoness). Yellow Pages ad for the Temple of Set stating,“Intelligent and ethical initiation into the arts and sciences of the prince of darkness”
And for y/our further edification, Lilith Aquino has also been photographed with ‘Health Ranger' Mike Adams, and a frequent contributor, Rima Laibow, was married to Maj. Gen. Bert Stubblebine, who stared at goats and also hung out with Aquino.
She's also notorious for the 'metaphorical' video 'I am Adam Lanza's Doctor' and her association with FMSA, the 'False Memory Syndrome Foundation' that disparages alleged ritual abuse claimants.
MICHAEL AQUINO & PAUL VALLELY DECLARE “MINDWAR” (YOUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK) – GEN. PAUL VALLELY: TERRORIST TRAINER, IMPERIAL PROPAGANDA TOOL – NATO/MOSSAD ATTACKS PARIS: YET ANOTHER PSY-OP FOR MORE WAR, WIDOWS, AND ORPHANS November 29, 2015 tokyowashi****
Thank for reminding me of this.
Your counter, your post to David's (or Josh's) seemingly uncritical view of Vallely is noted and should be put in everyone's thinking cap.
But as reveries_aquatiques points out with credible sources, perhaps disregarding comments by Vallely is something to consider. As for me I never heard of this interview so it would not be hard to discount.
We have other 'white hats' seen and unseen that have a long track record of moving us in the direction of the truth.
I have been well aware of Vallely's connection to Aquino for some time now. Thanks for the caution reminder.
Fren … I cannot thank you enough for your work in this. You deserve a bqttle fiqld promotion in this digital war.
PART FOUR: Sorry for the delay O=)
David continues our presentation by sharing info from a Telegram account (named "Narrative Reframes") which he says will soon be wiped from Telegram due to post inactivity.
THE POST (as displayed beginning 1:42:30) in bold, interjected with thoughts from David/Josh.
CLARITY ON Q
Post: Q is a counter-PsyOp strategy that's working against threats to National Security.
Post: Study PsyOps and evaluate Q tenets. Q is not meant to influence any particular narrative, it is meant to psychologically counter narrative influence, cognitively trigger agility, and leverage a psychological posture. The result: QUESTIONS; motivation for detailed research, or investigation.
David: This to me was what I was intuitively feeling about this when I first started jumping in. And that's a very different perspective than what was said in the media, or by reading people's different interpretations of the Q posts. That's where the "confusion" and a lot of the bullshit has come from. It hasn't come from any of the posts or the actual information. Let's be honest, there was a cult made out of it! It became cult-like where people starting forming their little cliques and saying "Oh, I'm the only one who can interpret this holy scripture called 'the Q posts'" or whatever. This was done by people that did this TO the Q information, it wasn't the goal of the Q information (as we're going to see).
Post: "Those who have something to hide are most threatened by truth." Why is it labeled a threat?
David: This was huge thing for me! I'm like, "Look, if the mainstream media is taking out their biggest guns and blasting ammo at this thing bigger than anything else and arresting people, silencing people, and banning people for even talking about it..." If the enemy is freaking out about this and "expending ammunition", what does that say? What are the actual posts talking about?
Post: The corrupt geopolitical conglomerates, government "institutions" and certain Officials are seriously threatened by Q for more than one reason.
Post: 1. It is subverting their "Narrative Warfare" strategy and objectives in multiple ways.
David: I mean come on, just having phrases go viral such as "Think for yourself", "think logically", "question the narrative", "here's how you can spot the lies" etc.. The Q posts didn't just post information: In those Q posts was contained the way to think stoically, how to think with the Socratic method of logic. That alone, whoever wrote this (which went to millions all over the planet) should get a Pulitzer prize for this war. We (the "old school" truth community) tried to get that kind of knowledge to go viral for decades and it was failing miserably in comparison to where we are now.
David: So you have the media calling "Q-anon" a bullshit cult and rightwing nazi movement, however they said the same thing about the Canadian Truckers! The truckers were the most polite you could possibly be! Bouncy castles, hot pancake breakfasts, and warm hugs all around, with a slogan that says "Mandate Freedom".. They were labeled with the same labels as the Q research movement, whereas goal of what we're doing is basically saying "we want to know how government really works, why there's so much criminality and corruption in the world, we're going to go ask questions ourselves" and we're going to be told we're nazis? Right away some connections of logic should be made for you about what we're dealing with.
Post: 2. It is helping millions of normal people (Patriots) as well as those Patriots in Government, the IC, US Military, Fed law enforcement, and critical Industry positions do a really important thing: Identify traitors and corruption from within America and internationally.
David: Look at what we're seeing unfold these days like the Twitter files, and all the things coming to light.
Post: Not all officials, government institutions or major corporations are threatened by Q. In fact, not all IC officials, Intelligence professionals, career Military professionals, or Federal law enforcement professionals are threatened by Q either.
THE EFFICACY OF Q (displayed @ 1:47:49)
Post: Countering corrupt narrative warfare influence against YOU, by causing you to stop, question & think, and giving you a reason to investigate.
David: So there had to be a motivation put up; this point was to get people motivated and give them some hope. There's a difference between "hopium"(which comes from the products of the posts) and legitimate hope (which is REQUIRED FOR VICTORY). There's a spectrum that exists, and on one extreme you have legitimate hope, and on the other end you have the "doomsday-er," "black-pilled" people who are telling everybody "it's hopeless, there's nothing good going on, evil is the only force at work in the world and we're totally screwed".
David: I sit in the middle of this spectrum where I'm open to either side, but at the same time I view that we need to inspire people to think for themselves, counter the narrative, give them enough HOPE so that we can WIN, and simultaneously not blow smoke up their ass and drive them into all kinds of bullshit rabbit holes just because we're trying to give people inspiration.
Post: The people needed a reason to question the control of corrupt and deceitful authority.
David: Remember, we've been mind controlled to be thinking like slaves since our inception. Welcome to "the Matrix", okay? We gotta snap out of that!
Post: A strange digital phenomenon/anomaly makes people ask themselves lots of questions and is worth investigating.
David: So they need a way to spark curiosity, get people to understand a different narrative, and get people to ask themselves a lot of questions that will inspire them to investigate. I love to tell people about how it wasn't "answers" that woke me up, it was "questions"! "Answers" implies that you might be brought into a dogma: somebody is telling you they can provide you all the answers of the secret mysteries... This is what the Freemasonic lodges do..
Josh: "We're gonna give you the truth because we have the truth! How do you get to the next level? Pay more money!"
David: Meanwhile, "the truth" is embedded into who you are as a living conscious being (if you could only get rid of all the bullshit in your head and access the Kingdom of Heaven within), right?
Post: Creating a reason for you to justify opting for online research over that TV show you're hooked on and binge watching after a long day at work -> which inevitably led to startling discoveries and uncanny connections -> connections which opposed a strongly established narrative you believed was true - your mind essentially went, WTF is this!? GTFO! (or maybe you're a cool guy and thought, "interesting, must know more") but either way, you became motivated to find out, to learn and investigate further.
David: If you're to ask me, I'm thanking my lucky stars and whichever person got this started in the first place, regardless of any potential predictions/plans.. I'm grateful that this put a flame of curiosity back into the truth movement again!
Post: So much so, that thousands became OSINT experts to investigate facts and determine the truth based on extensive research that was not "Google" approved.
Post: Deep research ultimately leads you to different historical and more-accurate information (normally buried by Tech oligarchy or purposefully not taught/discussed in globally funded academic institutions intended to educate the masses). You learn to filter for actual information over Big Tech AI "recommended" information, and attain a higher level of self-education.
David: The black hats had all the corners cut! They had the media, social media, and education system under their control. Just those three alone is a massive threat to all of our freedom, and to the truth.
Post: This practice is of self-education in the Information Age, when a goldmine of knowledge exists online if you care enough to learn (and decide to filter information differently than Big Tech AI traditionally does FOR you), and will ultimately increase your knowledge, awareness and sense of judgement on the reality of the status quo.
David: So the white hats were trying to find a way to get people to research independently of the algorithms which are the #1 influencers in our world. You could even say that those social media algorithms are more powerful than any nuclear warhead could be in winning this type of war.
Post: This improves decision-making faculties regarding true-false-ambiguous information, ie: the meaning of many things (ideas, politics, people, laws, events etc.) based on your own judgement - and not that of traditional "authorities" like Facebook, Google, Government Officials or other "Leaders".
ONLY TWELVE MINUTES COVERED IN PART FOUR? LOTS OF GOOD INFO PACKED INTO THIS PODCAST! PLEASE REACH OUT AND ASK ME TO CONTINUE THIS TRANSCRIPT IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO FINISH THE LAST HOUR OF THIS PODCAST. OTHERWISE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO FINISH THE REST IN VIDEO FORMAT. THIS DOES TAKE CONSIDERABLE TIME/EFFORT, AND I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE JUST FOR MY OWN SAKE. LET ME KNOW, WWG1WGA. <3
Thank you for your awesome effort! Quickly skimming your summary told me it was worth my time to watch the video and I just finished it last night.
I definitely would not have watched or even considered spending time on this if you hadn't made an initial summary.
If anything, making the summary posts makes it easier to package it up and send to newly awakened and normies on the edge of awakening. I think it is highly useful to finish the summary as long as the person receiving it will react beneficially and add more ammo to our side in this 5D war.
With that I would say summarize at your discression what you think will be most received and beneficial to the newly awakened (NA) and normies on the edge of awakening (NotEoA) as that is where your effort will be most fruitful.
From here on, other GAW members can link your summary and info to these new recruits in the movement.
NA and NotEoA will not watch a 3hr podcast but they will be more receptive to reading a summary.
If you think the effort isn't worth it then don't do it. It takes a lot of energy and time. I transcribe and summarize informational videos quite often and it takes a lot out of you.
Summarize the summary bro
Incredible job, thank you so much for summarizing this for us. You're right, a 3-hour video is difficult to follow and to stay with. Thanks for doing this, anon.
So cool to relive some of this. That first 6 months was strange and exciting. At the 59 minute mark they review the SeaTac joyride plane incident. That was when I flipped from being a quiet observer to trying to explain to family friends and co-workers so they could see the crazy coincidences. He eventually went gematria nutty but at this time period, WarHammer would read the Serialbrain interpretation of the Q posts. Very dramatic and intriguing until it wasn't.
Ditto. We lived that time live and it was a wild ride. We knew it was all real at that point. Richard B Russell was just way too over the top. It's hard to explain now!!
Sorry to be so dense about this but - on the Richard Russell plane dive event, did he just kamikaze himself out of devotion for the Q movement? Was he mentally ill prior to the plane thing? His pass was 'all access', per the podcast, but what is the 'rest' of the story? did WHs get him the upgraded pass? Did WHs plant him as a baggage handler with the future plans for this? To kill yourself to 'close a loop' seems a little pointless.
I was doubting at the time that there was an actual demise, honestly
I was trying to follow along, but because of SerialBrain and the gematria I was thown off. Almost quit following “Q” because of that account.
This has been an amazing recount of everything we’ve all lived through. So glad for this extensive recap :-)
Also excellent, thank you.
You are legend
ThanQ for your amazing summary of both video's. Very much appreciated!
Omg. 800% humbles me to be even in your presence here on gaw. This is a totally accurate summary. This is one of the most important podcasts in our entire movement. Thanks, frog. 🐸
One thing I love about doing the "transcriptions" is that it allows me time to digest the material given, since I'm constantly rewinding for accuracy and details. It really helps the material sink in for a better understanding!
This talk has so far been spot on critical thinking to logically assess how and why the Q operation is what it is today. Thank you so much, Catsfive, for highlighting and emphasizing this talk! I'm so eager to finish the rest! =D
I do the same with with Bible sermons that peak my interest and find it really helps with understanding and retention. Thank you for your effort.
Good to know other people learn the same way I do.
In fact, I started doing that with Sunday sermons as well. Just taking notes on my phone. Then when I may be waiting for an appointment I'll pull the notes up and read and be blessed with the Word again.
Earth Chronicles Ep 12 Intro Clip:
I watched it all, rewatched some parts, then watched Que the Storm. Excellent stuff.
I will make some more clips from this podcast.
Thank you. Does anybody have leaked 16 years plan with Russia?
Thank can be found on internet.
Thank you sir!
If its Badlands, I'm gonna check it out.
Badlands is producing seriously good anon content these days, highlight being "Defected" (highly recommended for the discerning advanced anon):
Me, too! Top quality always!
Defected came out of the gate roaring like a lion and has not let up but the Combo of Patel Patriot (Jon), Burning Bright, and Just Human for Devolution Power Hour might very well be out roaring them. They each have a special way of seeing events and the way those three play off each other is outstanding.
I never tuned in to Dev Power hour before, but after connecting with Defected, I'm looking forward just as much to each week's PH with the dynamic Duo and Mr Badlands, PP.
Update: Finished listening to approx 90%. It lives up to the hype. Very top quality, and prolly worth multiple listens.
"Q is a PsyOp designed to disrupt psychological conditioning."
Yes. The great awakening. Retooling of silent weapons of war. Essentially the cabals tools have been flipped on them. This when they saturated the media with misinformation accusations after Hillary stated they are losing the information war.
I think he downplays how thorough the Q operation is. The impossible deltas years in advance
Definitely an interesting slide they posted during this topic...calling Q a Counter PsyOp.
16:00 to 72:00 is ALL the sauce.
Should be a mandatory watch IMHO
"They are building an alternative internet, that can't be turned off, for global communications"
Is Elon a SAP?
I don’t know anything about technology, or how the Internet works, but remember this…
The day of Biden’s suspicious inauguration, 175 million IP addresses (roughly 11% of the Internet I remember reading) were transferred from the Pentagon to a very small, startup company (shell company?) operating out of an office in Fort Lauderdale, Florida (30 minutes from Mar-a-Lago). This transfer occurred THREE MINUTES before Biden was sworn in. Very suspicious timing.
Three months later, in April, there was news that Dan Kaminsky had suddenly died at the age of 42. He was one of only seven people worldwide that held “the keys to the Internet” and the only person in USA. I don’t know exactly what that means, but I remember reading at the time that these seven people were entrusted with the tools to resurrect the Internet, should it be taken down.
When his death was announced I remember (initially) reading a quote from a family member that the news of his passing must have been a mistake, or rumor. In my mind, being (justifiably) suspicious, I immediately wondered if Kaminsky hadn’t died, but had gone underground to work on something related to the transfer of IP addresses that occurred three months earlier.
Those IP addresses were eventually transferred from the company in Florida, to (what I remember reading) an agency under the command of General Nakasone. Patriot Patel’s Devolution series theorizes that Nakasone is part of the Q/WH team. Here’s what Wikipedia says about him…
Paul Miki Nakasone is a four-star general in the United States Army who serves as the commander of United States Cyber Command. He serves concurrently as the director of the National Security Agency and as chief of the Central Security Service. Nakasone took command of the United States Second Army and Army Cyber Command in October 2016, until the Second Army's inactivation in March 2017. In May 2018, he became head of the National Security Agency, the Central Security Service and the United States Cyber Command.
Maybe none of this is related, or of any relevance, or maybe it is. Who knows. 🤷🏻♂️
Nakasome has been at the top of my list as Q-Team. I don’t think he was a popular candidate or at least I didn’t see his name much in the early “who is Q?” Posts. I doubt we will ever find out for sure but it really doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. We are all part of the Q Team
I remember fren, very interesting stuff even if the ip transfer was just a troll. But starlink - whoever controls it has rhe most up to date sat imagery of every square foot of earth's surface, and signals recon ie Bluetooth MAC sniffers. It's a big deal!
That's all in reference to DNSSEC. All that is mostly overblown nonsense by the DNSSEC people to try to get people to actually use it by making it sound cooler than it actually is. It's just mostly a way to encrypt DNS queries and "zones." It's main selling point will almost certainly be replaced with other protocols like "DNS over HTTPS."
Also, the key system is an escrow system. Any 4 of the 7 people can activate the recovery key, which is then used to key a hardware encryption module, so it can regenerate the root DNSSEC keys should they be lost. This is another reason the system won't last, it's way too cumbersome for too little value... and to even use those keys you need access to the HSM which is kept in a secured location.
You can find the video and the original notes, I believe, of the original "DNSSEC Key Signing Ceremony." If you can stand the ceremoniousness of the entire affair.
Thanks for adding this!
There is a massive logical gap between "the COMM before the storm" 1 month before Q started posting and the Josh Reid's theory that Q was started by someone unrelated to the movement. You cannot have it both ways.
1st up, I only just got around to watching this and it’s 👌👌🔥🔥.
2nd, I agree with you on this part. I am 99% sure he is talking about the mega grifting of Tracy Beanz and Jerome Corsi. If you were following back in the beginning, they teamed up and attempted to do some Q decodes. They were horrible. And Q called them out for it.
I think this is Josh’s way of closing the gap of some of the early posts that were not literally true (Hillary will be arrested on…), those two bone heads, Alex Jones (Corsi association), and Beanz’s current connection with General Flynn.
Personally, I think the most important Q posts are the first 60 and certainly were not thought up by a mega grifter and a budding citizen journalist that didn’t know what she was really getting involved in at the time.
I 110% think Flynn is legit and involved at a high level, as does Josh. However, I believe it went more like this. I think Q saw the potential in Beanz, rescued her from the grasp of Corsi and AJ by sending Flynn her way, and then called out grifters Corsi and AJ and shut them down (as far as claiming to be Q insiders and decoders).
Tracy Beanz!!! Yes! I am still watching the video and I was along for the Q ride from the beginning, so I was scratching my head trying to remember who the journalist was that Josh might be talking about. I thought about Jerome Corsi, but Corsi is nobody now and Josh mentions that this person is still very active and followed. I can't believe I didn't remember Tracy Beanz. Remember the whole fiasco on Reddit where Tracy Beanz and a couple of others were trying to take over the main Q-following group on Reddit? TheCalmBeforeTheStorm, right? I can't remember exactly the chronology now because there were few that were all running at the same time for a bit, but CBTS was the big one that ultimately got nuked by Reddit and sent a bunch of us scrambling to Voat. So maybe it was an earlier incarnation of CBTS on Reddit. That whole fiasco is why I have paid virtually no attention to anything Tracy Beanz has had to say. I don't discount the possibility that she just made some errors in judgment early on, but that whole thing left a bad taste in my mouth and I have just never really trusted her since.
Thanks, fren. I knew if I searched the comments here, one of you all would remind me. Thank you, thank you.
I'm loving listening to Josh Reid talk about the chronology of what was happening back then.
He can't cover everything so he leaves out MegaAnon being one of the anons on the chans and that she talked about the earliest Q posts, then said she knew who they were--interns in the Whitehouse. Then has her wild last post where she's figured out who they are. I always thought she was validating them back to the beginning with that last post, but what Josh is saying makes me think she called out the grifters (as Josh calls them) rightly and then the Q posts got taken over by what we now know as Q and then a month or two later she figured out who they were and wrote that last post as she was figuring it out and was tickled shitless about the whole thing--who they were and that they knew who she was and were stringing her along, pushing her knowing she would figure it out.
Someday, I'd like to be able to write the screenplay that covers Megs part of the story. :)
Some of our newer anons I think have a hard time understanding how much was going on at the time. There's the Q posts, but there was a ton of context around that as well!
That's one of the reasons this is a great video, as he gets into that a little bit.
Glad I could help!
I think that fbianon set the stage for q
WOW!! Glad to see you bring up MegaAnon! She is who I followed in the beginning. I saw a few early Q posts, but they were confusing so I stuck with MegaAnon. When she did her final post, I was devastated. Todd Whiskey would re post her on reddit. I then went back and began to follow Q from Jan. 2018 until...well...now.
Todd Whiskey! Yes! He was pulling Megs posts and consolidating them in one place for easy reading, God bless him! Looking back, what many people don't realize is that Megs posts where ANON posts in the original meaning of that word: "anonymous". Same with Q in the very beginning before Q had a trip code.
What that meant in the case of Megs was that we had to try to ascertain if a post was coming from MegaAnon by her either telling everybody it was her (which she did sometimes) or by her giving us clues that it was her by her vernacular. (It seemed pretty clear to me that she was originally from the south based on how she expressed herself, though I could be wrong.) Todd Whiskey was doing some seriously heavy lifting by sifting through all the posts on 4chan and pulling out Megs' stuff. He's a hero anon in my mind, no doubt.
It's a reddit thread and I abandoned reddit when they nuked CBTS, but here's the compilation for anybody interested in MegaAnon's posts. I've meant to go back and reread them all again (I've done some of that, but not in an organized way). I'm sure I'd be blown away by some of the stuff in retrospect.
Here's a text collection of them if you just can't stomach reddit:
Thanks for this!!!!
Oh, and did you see that some anons later figured out who they think Megs is? I don't have time right now to go pull that stuff. I found it about a year ago. It was complete with a picture from when the theorized Megs was receiving an award. Short, red-headed consultant teaching cryptography at the NSA, if I'm remembering it correctly. Tickled me to see the pic. Let me know if you've not seen that stuff and I'll find it and post it when I have more time.
LOL love it! No I'm not aware of the article of who she was/is. I'd appreciate it if you send it to me when you have time.
Read the replys too on this. :)
That is some much appreciated sound logic fren.
That was the only "stretch" that really made me roll my eyes
Meh, why not?
Suppose they knew that they were going to reach out with some type of comm wherein the narrator would be called Q - or something similar - and then they happened to find the Q account on 4chan already active?
Or maybe Josh is a little off - they intentionally had the first two create Q and then conducted a pre-planned takeover of the account, or circumstances changed and dictated it. It's a small error in a huge mass of knowledge he is spot on with. Cant be too critical
oh I loved the overall talk. There were many interesting and good points.
Could you give us a few sentences about what they discuss?
Oh, shit, I'm so sorry, everyone. This is one of the most important Q podcasts I've ever heard, and it starts right back at the very beginning, even before Q was ever a twinkle in the Army of Northern Virginia's eye. It lays down the basis for Q, why it was needed, the importance of information warfare, this podcast touches on so many obscure and years-old now datapoints, but does such a brilliant job of bringing it all together. This will 100% be our first ever WEEK-LONG STICKY.
I know you don't need me to offer my opinion but I second this motion. SO. HARD.
I am just sitting here stunned, at 1 hour and 36 minutes in, practically beside myself. No offense to David, but the first hour of this podcast is a very, very hard act to follow. Probably impossible.
That first hour could pretty much be described as THE OFFICIAL HISTORY OF Q. I mean wow. Damn. Shit. Insert pejorative.
I have no words.
..... anyways, yes, please keep this up, this is one of the most important things I've ever heard in this movement. Maybe, probably in my life. Yeesh.
One of the best summaries I’ve read in a long time! I’ve missed this part of the Q experience, the comms and decodes—-this gave a comprehensive explanation for the loose ends that have been rattling around in my brain since Q began. I feel satisfied! Thank Q! I’m rejuvenated to go back out into my little corner of the world, bringing with me the hopium. Deep inhales….and hold the line.
Yes, please leave this up for at least a week. It'll take me some time to go through it and I love to read through some of the updated discussion
Is this something the can be a permanent link in the side bar? I'm only half way through and have out so meant pieces together.
My having question is always How do we know about this 16y plan? Everyone references it... But I don't know the source and how we know this was the case. Do you know?
The 16 year plan was dropped by q and made into graphic meme format by an anon.
I’m sorry I missed that somehow- thank you for this.
Tuned in, at 8:47 they still haven’t gotten to the point. Lots of mentions of other content. They lost me. They need a good editor. A minute of intro and promotions is a lot. Willing to check them out another time.
They really like hearing themselves talk.
This is a problem in our world, there is SO MUCH noise.
yes, i'm thankful for summaries in such cases/as I do think the 'noise' helps confuse blackhats.
but in everyday Q life, I choose brevity.
think it's an honorable skill to condense info, be considerate of the audience.
and if George Washington found it important...
KEEP GOING, feel free to FFWD if you need, frog, here's a summary:
Not going to point any fingers here but one of these two guys was fascinating to hear talk. The other one liked to hear himself talk and didn’t really say anything I haven’t heard already. I could have skipped the whole second half of the show and not missed anything. Just my two cents.
I'm buying, in fact here's a nickel!
David is seemingly unaware of how outgunned he is here. Rather than at least do what Jon would undoubtedly do, and be gripped and enraptured by what he's just heard, as the user count and comments are likely EXLODING! too btw,
He decides to read from his paper just the way he'd rehearsed it, carrying on with the fucking woo-woo psychobabbling that has become as obnoxious as elevator music for all of us that spend our precious hours doing this research.
Rogan has his platform for being the best at this. When you get thrown a curveball like this YOU WILL FAIL AND STRIKE OUT EPICALLY IF YOU DO NOT ADJUST YOUR SWING.
Instead of going forward with your pre-planned, awful drivel just adjust on the fly, show your enthusiasm and excitement for what your company has just revealed and most importantly ASK QUESTIONS AND DELVE DEEPER so you can help the audience connect.
Instead we get to sit there, bored from listening to this re-reading of a loose, expanded consciousness, new age, exceedingly masturbatory series of paragraphs, no doubt drawn from a sociology word bank your teacher assigned you to form sentences with. This is the Cult of the Medics guy? Damn, he's a LOT better in that format
The users listening live and I have literally a MILLION questions for Josh and we get to be forcibly disengaged by this asshole who needs to feel equal by reading this dissertation on "learning skills" to "create value for ourselves" to "unleash our creative energy" from their bondage and of course FWEE OUR MINDS TO THINK CRITICALLY!
First time hearing all of that! 😑
Glad to hear I'm not going to miss anything. I stopped at the 1hr44min mark. Tired of hearing people talk like they know more about Q and the chans than they really do. As soon as he said cult, I knew the rest would be more narrative control.
I remember all of this that Josh and David talk about. Dick Cheney is more central to the plot behind the "botched" Minot nuclear warhead transfer to Barksdale Air Force Base than many people know. Recall he was also a central figure behind the scene when 9-11 occurred and a signatory of PNAC, the blueprint calling for a new Pearl Harbor to kick off Oded Yinon Strategy in the Middle East. Many researchers have subsequently claimed that 911 was an "inside job;" and alleges Cheney through the Secret Service, played a direct leadership role in what occurred over 911. Consequently, it is also very possible that Cheney may have played a similar role in circumventing the regular chain of military command in ordering the B-52 incident. The B-52 incident could be part of a contrived "National Special Security Event" directly controlled by Cheney by virtue of the alleged authority granted to him by President Bush, and through the Secret Service which at least theoretically, has the technological means to by pass the regular chain of military command." Then there is this statement made before the Minot-Barksdale missing nuclear missile mishap. On 15 Apr 2007 Dick Cheney warning us: "The greatest threat now is 'a 9/11' occurring ... with a nuclear weapon in the middle of one of our own cities."
Even before the great purge of top military brass occurred in 2012, there was Air Force Brig. Gen. Thomas Tinsley at Elmendorf in Alaska, who died on 28 Jul 2008 of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest ('suicided'). He was known to be a charismatic leader with a reputation for excellence and tremendous love for his Airmen and his family. Tinsley formerly was Directorate for Plans and Policy on the Joint Staff and was executive assistant to the Deputy for Political-Military Affairs for Asia Pacific and the Middle East. His previous 22-month assignment was executive officer to the Air Force chief of staff, Gen. T. Michael "Buzz" Mosely, who in June resigned under pressure in an agency shake-up. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates ousted both Mosely, the Air Force military chief, and Air Force Secretary Michael W. Wynne, the agency's civilian head, holding them accountable for failing to fully correct an erosion of nuclear-related performance standards. One concern was a cross-country flight in August 2007 of a B-52 carrying armed nuclear weapons. What did Brig. Gen. Tinsley know?
The very next day on 29 Jul 2008 an aide to Virginia U.S. Senator Jim Webb, Frederick W. Hutchins Jr., was found dead from an 'apparent' gunshot wound. Authorities in Botetourt County discovered the body of a well-known Democratic operative and U.S. Senate aide along U.S. 220. Senator Jim Webb was a well known thorn in the side of the Bush-Cheney/PNAC campaign for war in the Middle East. Senator Webb long opposed American military intervention overseas, and voted against the Iraq War. Albeit, listed as a 'democrat', Webb wasn't really a democrat. He was an oddity. After a confrontational exchange with President Bush, Webb was once even "tempted to slug Bush". Webb was not an on-board member with war in the Middle East and apparently didn't get the memo as a 'better-get-in-line' democrat senator. Senator Paul Wellstone received one from Dick Cheney, but didn't heed the warning. Was the death of Hutchins Jr., a 26 year old, who was described as a "rising star" in Virginia Democratic politics, a loud message to Senator Webb? During the Reagan Administration, Webb was formerly Secretary of the Navy, Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, Counsel for the United States House Committee on Veterans' Affairs and is a decorated Marine Corps officer. He had a motive against Bush and the NeoCons and was in a position to gather information from inside the military. Was Senator Webb aware?
Then there's this: On 2 July 2015, Webb announced his democrat candidacy for president, but stepped down from running only a month later in the primaries stating that he was "not comfortable" with many political positions from the party's leadership. Jim Webb is a war hero, novelist, and former senator who once almost beat a biker to death with his bare hands. He also hates politics. So, why would he run for president, unless it was a fleeting naivety he could somehow change the direction America was heading. Later, President Trump mulled Jim Webb to replace Jim Mattis as Defense Secretary.
There is a paper trail and even fueling personnel have to know if there's nuclear weapons on the plane. Nukes are NEVER transported under the wings. There are entire systems set up to prevent this from occurring. People saw this and knew it wasn't protocol. Anyone having any relationship about the Minot-Barksdale nuclear missile debacle suddenly ending up getting killed. The body of Air Force Captain John Frueh was found near his rental car near Badger Peak in northeast Skamania County, Washington on 8 Sep 2007. Frueh's last reported phone call at Portland airport came on the same day, 30 Aug 2007 that five or six nuclear weapons aboard a B-52 supposedly went "missing" during a flight from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. Frueh's position in the headquarters of the U.S. Air Force Special Operations Command "weather operations" would have given him access to a highly classified information. On 23 Jul 2008, all six crew members aboard a B-52 bomber that crashed off Guam were killed. The crew was based at Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana. Former special assistant to Secretary of the Air Force Michael Wynne, John Wheeler III, also a veteran of the GHW Bush and Reagan administrations, his body was discovered at the Cherry Island landfill in Wilmington, Delaware on 31 Dec 2008 after it was dumped from a sanitation truck that originated its run in Newark, Delaware. Wheeler, a West Point graduate, former Army officer, and lawyer, served under Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne until Wynne and Air Force chief of staff General T. Michael Moseley. Wynne and Moseley were fired by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates on June 5, 2008, over a breakdown in the security of nuclear weapons under Air Force control, particularly at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. Wheeler left his Air Force position in June 2008, the same month Wynne and Moseley were fired.
Within the Washington DC beltway, there are many not so well kept secrets. Survival depends more on knowing what not to say publicly than what is known. I believe the 'suicides' of Brig. Gen. Thomas Tinsley and Frederick W. Hutchins Jr. were wet works.
”There are no coincidences in the universe, only convergences of Will, intent, and Experience” – Neale Donald Walsch
Fren, could you go into more details about the message Wellstone received from Cheney that he didn't heed, how it ties into all this & as many details about it that you easily remember? I'm in an email exchange with an old friend I hadn't heard from in years. She was always very progressive but knew Wellstone's death was very suspicious, back then.
I notice from her previous email she bought the anti Trump nonsense, ( We were last in touch long before Trump was on the scene) I want to try to spoon feed her stuff that she will at least accept. Wellstone might be a good place to start. Thanks
I was never a Paul Wellstone fan. In fact, every time he gave a speech I perceived it as a 'bleeding-heart' embarrassment. One thing I can say is he was sincere to the bone as to who he was. Wellstone was not a NeoCon though. When the NeoCon takeover of the US government was taking place. Paul Wellstone was in the way and was making a name for himself as an anti-war advocate. As a Jew, he was completely out of water regarding Zionist interests. "I'm for the little fellers, not the Rockefellers." - Sen. Paul Wellstone. This statement pretty much epitomizes who Wellstone was. Wellstone was a very honest liberal and that's an extreme rarity. I have to credit him for that. I once met and talked to his wife, Shiela, who I perceived to be not at all on the same page as me concerning certain societal issues. She was just as much of a political junkie as Paul was. I'm convinced if Shiela wasn't on that plane, she would have gone into politics. Perhaps, it was for this reason that Shiela was onboard that fateful flight. It's ironic that any chance taking advantage of tragedy and martyrdom was eliminated. It's all a classic example of brutal mafia payback. Dick Cheney threatened Senator Paul Wellstone with a cryptic reply stating:
"If you vote against the war in Iraq, the Bush administration will do whatever is necessary to get you. There will be severe ramifications for you and the state of Minnesota."
Wellstone cast his vote for his conscience and against the Iraq measure, the lone Democrat involved in a tough 2002 election campaign to do so. And a few weeks later on Oct. 25, as he appeared to be winning his re-election bid, Wellstone, his wife, Sheila, his daughter, Marcia Markuson, three campaign staffers, and two pilots died in a plane crash in Minnesota.
This plane crash was beyond suspicious. Someone said most all airplane crashes are acts of sabotage. I'd suggest looking at the evidence of this plane crash to highlight the many anomalies.
As this relates to Virginia U.S. Senator Jim Webb and the death of his campaign aide Frederick W. Hutchins Jr., a rising star in democrat politics, and to the death of Air Force Brig. Gen. Thomas Tinsley, what we are really talking about is mafia-style tactics of wetworks being carried out. I believe the weaponization of politics and government started in earnest on the night after the 1992 election. Angry at Democrats and Republicans who "betrayed" them in the 1992 election, Rahm Emanual stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign and began plunging a steak knife into the table and began rattling off names while shouting "Dead! Dead! Dead!". Instead of being punished for his behavior, Emanual was glorified. Hillary Clinton said she was completely mesmerized by Emanual's remarks. His public outburst could have been taken from a script of a Godfather movie. Emanuel is known for his "take-no-prisoners style" that has earned him the nickname "Rahmbo". Emanuel sent a dead fish in a box to a pollster who was late delivering polling results.
The government uses full-fledged mafia tactics. What use to be a secret alliance between Meyer Lansky and the Rothschilds to influence early forms of social engineering (ie. gun control, et, al.) has now moved into the federal government.
Thank you very much fren, this is very helpful. You are quite knowledgeable & have a great memory. Thanks
Worth every second of the 2+ hours pedes. Book mark and listen. Should be required listening for the Great Awakening movement. Trust me, as a late comer (2019) this video/ discussion has added so much context/ understanding. These two researchers are very well informed. If your looking for hope (ium), feeling discouraged, have a long listen.
go intois now in the sidebar.
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many thanks for posting! cheers warriors. I finally made an account haha
Would love to have u on my podcast sometime if your willing. Would love to help tell ur story. My name is Ryan..I absolutely love your work. It's next level special..I'm here, as always, if u need prayer or a fren to vent to. Hope I'm not being to forward, I just woke up with u on my heart and figured I would take a chance. Love u fren. God WINS https://youtube.com/@prayergardenpodcast
Hey thanks for that. Sure if he happy to come on.
Josh Reid is one of my favorites. I watch whatever comes out on the Redpill Project Rumble site every day. https://rumble.com/c/RedpillProject
Pls post some of his best ones, if you can?
Please consider having it up another week.
I think that's a good idea.
I listened to this podcast this morning and was thinking I should mention how good it was. The effort that was put into the timeline and all the analysis was great. Definitely worth listening to.
This podcast definitely changed my mind on Q for the better. They addressed all of the lingering nagging doubts about what its purpose was.
David messaged back saying he hadn't been here before, I gave him the link.
Hopefully we'll be blessed with him as a new member!
Thanks for doing that, frog! I wrote them both on TS, but to my knowledge, neither has replied back.
He took a couple days to reply, I think he will get over here when he gets some time. He is pretty busy but he did seem like he would pop in to take a gander.
David is a genuine person, what you see on the podcast is how he really is. Very analytical in his thinking, and has skill in his approach to journalism. I'm glad to know him, not that I know him super well personally, but many of my close friends definitely do know him quite well.
I met him when the pandemic kicked off and we spent probably 2 hours at his house discussing all the hidden truths. I'm super glad to see him rising to the occasion and getting the attention he deserves
I've been a dedicated to researcher, especially in the early days, and the thing that stands out about David is, apart from having an impressive memory, but it's impressive how he manages to stick to only the most corroborated and defensible Q facts. So, I have a question.
Just watched his latest rumble called "The Grand Illusion". Was going along pretty good until he said, "I heard they found a pyramid in Ukraine. [snip] What I heard was, they found inside one of these pyramids a working STARGATE" and thats what all the fighting is about.
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Excellent show can't wait to hear it a couple more times.
This is special. Some people still have problems sitting through long discussions even when they are into the topic. You need to put aside time and listen to the whole thing. This needs to be a permanent sticky or something
Hrs in the sidebar now.
It's a great listen.
It's fascinating to think that maybe in fact Russia and/or Turkey did in fact collude with Trump to interfere with the cabal interference in the 2016 election!
Basically, the cabal isn't lying to us, Russia interfered with their interference!
I realize that Trump did not cheat, but the idea is similar to The Sting, after Doyle Lonnegan gets cheated at cards by Henry Gondorff, he can't say anything because he also cheated but not as good as Henry, and they both know it. The Cabal thought they had it in the bag for Hillary to win, but they were double crossed, by making it an even playing field. That must have made them crazy, because they couldn't say anything about it without exposing themselves.
Russia really did rig the election, just not how people think
I think this one needs 2 weeks stickied to fully digest. Especially for the new frogs.
The Richard B Russell Submarine and the plane hijack being a cover for the attack on the submarine was so good now I have to think about a Japanese garden to get this boner down.
Two things I got from this very specific part. Confirmation that the white hats have done and do false flags. And the confirmation that Rogue Boomer really did try to kill president Trump.
They don't call him renegade for nothin
Here's the one he refers to in this video.
Ok, so I finally watched this and can see why people were so enthused. Goes without saying that Reid's take may not be 100% accurate, but it's a damn good one. Not many OG anons can articulate the connections so well.
Second half with the other guy is not worth watching, IMO.
Takes longer to read the summary 😂
Fantastic red-pilling material, including fren's summary. Should be permanently sticky'd, if possible.
The future for all of us will be MAGNIFICENT. Getting the Tom Tom's beating the drum that avoids all negative spent energy.
Both these guys are pretty good...
Will watch it tomorrow, but I’ll bet it’s good. I just recently got an internet radio to conveniently have on in the background (work from home) and to get around the nonsense of our local stations. Discovered the Dark to Light show by Josh Reid on WYSL and it’s great.
Its not good.
That would not be even the type of words I would use to describe this.
The first hour of this show is, succinctly and with hardly any deviation, SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT Q RELATED INFORMATION YOU WILL EVER HEAR.
Josh Reid drops payload after payload of COMPLETELY INSANE TRUTH BOMBS at a rate that made my head spin. I lost track of time I was so deeply focused into this.
He essentially lays down the entire pre -history, development, execution and current functioning of THE ENTIRE Q OPERATION from start to finish. This is the BEST EXPLANATION AND HISTORY OF Q AND ITS ORIGINS I HAVE EVER HEARD BAR NONE.
He has the modesty to call it "his theory" too! For God's sake man. He drops more knowledge than you could get in YEARS of listening to well-regarded podcasters and citizen journalist types in this movement in just a few minutes. I didn't find a single logical inconsistency, a single caveat, a single outlandish stretch, a single contradiction, a single red herring. IT IS SO LEGIT.
I mean I'd go so far as to say that it is the most likely, accurate and logical interpretation of what Q is ***that I've ever heard.***More than that: where it came from and how just an UNREAL number of events many of which are known to us already relate back to its inception, he gives us EVERYTHING and he doesn't give a shit who can or cant keep up. Most of these guys go too slow for me and I'm sure I'm not alone feeling that way.
Simply put this is basically EARTH SHATTERING TRUTH and it needs to be heard by EVERYONE. It could save a person new to GAW maybe YEARS of research and connections, and many of the events and topics Reid discusses, such as the 4chan "Anons" before Q came out, are esoteric knowledge at this point and hard to find any history at all on.
This checks out. You could call it The History of Q if you were brave enough.
One shitty thing about our movement is that SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY gets used up on endless roundtables doing amateur sociology. There's literally an UNENDING AMOUNT of bad or middling stuff that reads like a SOCIO-PSYCH MBA ENTRANCE ESSAY available about Q movement, and ALL the many subheadings under that.
A lot of fatuous talk from talkers who like to talk about what talk to expect from other talkers who like to talk and what we'll see other talkers talking about. Or how event Xsub-232 will finally shift "the narrative" or "the thinking" and cause us to reach "the storm" or "the precipice."
Even tautological discussions and content from guys like Burning Bright & JustHuman which are more intellectually stimulating and analytically driven can become really low information at times.
Its great to have a bead on the good and bad guys' moves, motives and intentions, but most of us can solve this algebra by now and with great ease. A lot of times we are just reading different styles of prose telling the exact same story. Please note I don't mean to call anyone out at all, and that I will be first the first to raise my hand and admit my own guilt. It gets to the point where it almost happens without me trying at times. I think this is truly because When you dont have much information, you're forced to stretch it.
What Josh Reid has given us here is a 40, 000 foot view of the entire landscape with ZERO opinion or "discussion of consciousness" (as his partner on the Podcast unfortunately seems to be doing) This is 100% authentic, actionable shit - a TON of new rabbit holes to peek into - and thus for the long winded and overly obsessive analyst types like myself.
I have a whole new way to figure out and make connections into this world. Literally I'm SO FUCKING STOKED.
This is 1000% SAUCE and it's as good as I've ever heard. It makes sense all the way around and like its author, has NO TIME for preening bullshit we all know intuitively already but is still repeated to us ad infinitum for want of any substance to fill pod episodes with.
I can't wait to check more of Josh Reid out and I'd expect he has significantly raised his profile after this. One of the best explanations I've ever come across, maybe THE BEST - that never even once says any of the wooo woo stuff.
This is an open dig too, partly because so many data points he hit are now practically ancient, and in need of updates to the entry if you catch my drift. Michael Hastings is just ONE of a series of characters he briefly touched on that has MUCH MORE underneath the surface for example. Very exciting.
Have I said its LIFE CHANGING YET?? 🤣 ENJOY IT, ALL!
Thank you! So much respect for the time you took to be very specific. Looking forward to watching it even more now (probably have to wait until after work though). I was confused for a few seconds with "it's not good". : -)
Okay, 45 minutes into watching it and had to pause to reply to you. Wow! Wow! Wow! Incredible! I can tell it's going to take a few viewings to be able to digest it well, but does this man ever know his stuff! Mind blowing how well organized his mind is.
One thing I think is particularly important is how this could red pill those who otherwise think they are too logical, rational, scientific, etc. to fall for "crazy Q conspiracies". If they have an ounce of honest humility left, they will recognize Josh as someone who could easily debate and persuade on their terms. I've already got several people in mind I plan to target with this, but the challenge is getting the door cracked open. Have to be deft and cunning to get them to even consider it, but if I can get past that they will at least have a big challenge on their hands trying to dismiss it and might even start to see the light.
Ooh they sprung for the mokato font or whatever it's called, I like that one.
the portion at 1 hour 41 minutes in describing Q operation should be required info for everyone here.
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I really liked the John Galt - Q comparison. There is something to that.
My favorite part as well. I had not consciously made this connection yet, but it is absolutely correct. Maybe it is this unconscious connection that has turned me into a Conan the Barbarian type of Constitutional Lawfare Defender of the Republic enjoying what is “best in life”.
I'm personally a huge fan of The Fountainhead... It changed my life to one that I was in charge of... Not going auth the flow. I hadn't heard before that Trump is an Ayn Rand fan.
Thanks for the heavy lifting @LogicalThinking4910.
I wonder if these guys are on here....if so, hats off. WWG1....
I do think he does come here on occasion.
I've not been a Q follower. So this was a good primer for an uninformed person, such as myself. Thanks for the tip, u/catsifve.
Well done, Simon.
BTW - why is there always one downvote on all of these great posts?
Seems like a methodical practice that is purposeful and achieves some desired outcome. I'm just not sure what it is.
There's always one hater who doesn't have "community styling" turned on, anywhere across their entire life
Ok, I’m dumb. What is community styling, and what does it have to do with downvotes?