The concept is actually pretty good. Getting out and walking, and knowing your neighbors in this neighborhood, etc.--those are good things.
The problem is the restrictions and curtailing of freedoms.
Why can't they just design a great city as they're discussing, and let people be free to choose how they live within it, or how they traverse boundaries, etc.? Why the control? Well, we know why...
So, the scary thing actually happening here is that they are packaging something sinister inside a pretty attractive concept.
Why can't we have cities "designed" organically by the people living in them on their private property with which people can do what they desire, not "designed" by city planners, zoning, Big Government, etc?
You don't see the contradiction inherent in "free to choose how they live WITHIN IT" (emphasis added)?
can you name one place where your vision has worked? I can name areas where it has not: anywhere rural where people get to do whatever they want. If we don't have some level of zoning and code, we devolve. Period.
99 percent of people are not capable of absolute freedom... simply because they have no consideration for others. So, I don't know what type of utopia you think is feasible with total freedom. But humanity would suffer.
I am not a planning nazi. I don't like the idea of boundaries. My only point was that a well-designed and planned community would foster neighborhoods, community, outdoor interaction, etc.
The concept is actually pretty good. Getting out and walking, and knowing your neighbors in this neighborhood, etc.--those are good things.
The problem is the restrictions and curtailing of freedoms.
Why can't they just design a great city as they're discussing, and let people be free to choose how they live within it, or how they traverse boundaries, etc.? Why the control? Well, we know why...
So, the scary thing actually happening here is that they are packaging something sinister inside a pretty attractive concept.
What did Nancy say? Just say No!
Why can't we have cities "designed" organically by the people living in them on their private property with which people can do what they desire, not "designed" by city planners, zoning, Big Government, etc?
You don't see the contradiction inherent in "free to choose how they live WITHIN IT" (emphasis added)?
"Why the control?" - Infuckingdeed.
Are we awake here or not???
without some level of civilized design, humanity would be a charlie foxtrot.
Wrong in principle and wrong in practice.
can you name one place where your vision has worked? I can name areas where it has not: anywhere rural where people get to do whatever they want. If we don't have some level of zoning and code, we devolve. Period.
99 percent of people are not capable of absolute freedom... simply because they have no consideration for others. So, I don't know what type of utopia you think is feasible with total freedom. But humanity would suffer.
I am not a planning nazi. I don't like the idea of boundaries. My only point was that a well-designed and planned community would foster neighborhoods, community, outdoor interaction, etc.